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Unread 01/12/2015, 02:41 PM   #51
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Read the directions again carefully - it states 20 drops per 10.5 gallons, not 16 drops per gallon.

Do you have anything in your QT except water, fish, a heater and a circulation pump/air stone? If you've live rock and/or sand, it will absorb copper medication, reducing its effective concentration in the water.

If you actually added 16 drops of Cupramine per gallon, and your QT has rock/sand in it, you may have dodged a bullet, since 16 drops per gallon would be a very large overdose.

Keep in mind that an inexpensive copper test kit like the API test can be had for $5.99 from Drs Foster and Smith. It'll be a bit more in a retail store, but certainly not more than $10 at an "aquarium specialty" Petco, or at a Manhattan LFS.
Nope just pvc piping of different sizes, a heater, water, fish and a hob filter with a filter sock stuffed to capture debris. no carbon or anything.

thats weird cause the bottle i have at home says 16 drops per 10.5 gallons.

the seachem site says 20 per 10.5 now....

I meant to say per every 10 gallons not every gallon (it was a typo)


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Unread 01/12/2015, 03:19 PM   #52
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I meant to say per every 10 gallons not every gallon (it was a typo)
Whew - that would've been a hefty overdose. Good luck and let us know how it goes.


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Unread 01/12/2015, 03:20 PM   #53
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Whew - that would've been a hefty overdose. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
HAHA yes that would def have done some harm and not good!


Thanks will do! I will try to get the kit today, but unlikely. =(


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Didn't notice but if you don't have one get a copper test kit and keep the level at .5

The fallow tank for at least 6, 8 is better, weeks is VERY important.


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Unread 01/12/2015, 07:12 PM   #55
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Didn't notice but if you don't have one get a copper test kit and keep the level at .5

The fallow tank for at least 6, 8 is better, weeks is VERY important.
YEs Definitely going to do the 72 days.

Good News Everyone =P

I get home and my yellow tang is SPOTLESS!!

I did a 50% water change and added 10 drops. (10 gallon qt tank til Thursday)

I siphoned the bottom glass spotless!!!

Hopefully I got whatever Ich that were chillin on the tank floor.

and now we play the waiting game.

I am hoping they stay strong til thursday where I can re-up on Nori Weed for the Tang and the copper test kit.




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Unread 01/12/2015, 09:22 PM   #56
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Keep in mind that an inexpensive copper test kit like the API test can be had for $5.99 from Drs Foster and Smith. It'll be a bit more in a retail store, but certainly not more than $10 at an "aquarium specialty" Petco, or at a Manhattan LFS.
You cant use an API test kit for Cupramine... It wont read correctly as this is not chelated copper. You need to get a Seachem or Salifert test kit.


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You cant use an API test kit for Cupramine... It wont read correctly as this is not chelated copper. You need to get a Seachem or Salifert test kit.
good point!


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Unread 01/15/2015, 11:38 PM   #58
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So copper is now set at 0.5

I bought the seachem kit.

I wasnt too far off with my drop calculations, i was at 0.7ish

but I am happy to know I have the QT 100% under control

however I caved, I figured if I am waiting 72 days i might as well get the fish I want now.

I bought 4 more baby green chromis and a new yellow tang. i couldn't bare not seeing a yellow tang anymore and my first green chromis looked lonely LOL.

So the clock starts again!


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Unread 01/16/2015, 06:15 PM   #59
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This may sound crazy but I have done it and it worked I had ich I heated up ro and matched ph level in the ro I dipped the fish and it killed the ich right away a lfs told me about it didn't believe it but is was a last ditch attempt and it worked out well


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I'm glad things are improving but did you say you've added new fish? I'm not sure that's a good idea, unless you've got another QT set up (ie not adding them to the ich infested QT or the ich infested DT). Maybe I'm reading this wrong?

2 yellow tangs aren't going to work out super well in a 40 gallon either...

Anyway, not trying to be negative, just don't want you to going through another cycle of fish loss. Good luck, ich is a real beast to deal with.


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Unread 01/16/2015, 09:40 PM   #61
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I'm glad things are improving but did you say you've added new fish? I'm not sure that's a good idea, unless you've got another QT set up (ie not adding them to the ich infested QT or the ich infested DT). Maybe I'm reading this wrong?

2 yellow tangs aren't going to work out super well in a 40 gallon either...

Anyway, not trying to be negative, just don't want you to going through another cycle of fish loss. Good luck, ich is a real beast to deal with.
Yea i know what you mean and yes i did add new fish to the only QT i have.
Its only one yellow tang. My first had something strange happen, an inconclusive death. Possibly couldnt handle the copper as well as the other 2 fish.

Yes i kno it restarts the clock but in the long run ill have my QT setup less than the first 72 + 72 days for snother group. My two other fish seem happier with more fish now. Hsppier fish means less stressed = faster defense against the ich.


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You should at the very least get the copper down to .25so the newly added fish can become acclimated to the copper, then, after 48 hours raise it to .5 and start the count down.


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You should at the very least get the copper down to .25so the newly added fish can become acclimated to the copper, then, after 48 hours raise it to .5 and start the count down.


Good call!!


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