Herbie Plumbing

mitchrapp · 02/03/2015, 08:26 AM

Currently plumbing my FOWLR tank with a herbie overflow and wanted to get some thoughts on it.

I have a built-in overflow in the corner, where I have the main and emergency drain. I haven't received my strainer yet, but will have one soon. The main drain is approx. 6 in below the emergency. It's a straight shot down the bulkhead, through a union, into a gate valve, and then down to the sump (which I haven't received yet either). I'm not planning on running any reactors (and if I do, I may get a separate pump) and will have a minimal refugium (probably just some live rock). So I'm going from the return pump, through a union, up through a gate valve, 90 horizontal, then a 90 vertical up the back of the tank, to a 90 street elbow into a dual locline at the top of the tank.

How does it look? Anything you would do differently?

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morleyz · 02/03/2015, 08:45 AM

Looks good to me. My only suggestion is to make sure you anchor the return line to the tank or stand. Once water is flowing, it might not be as stable without support.

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mitchrapp · 02/03/2015, 08:53 AM

Yep, definitely plan on doing that.

Yes, definitely sad Flynn went so young.

adamyaws · 02/03/2015, 09:14 AM

I'm right behind you on this. I've had my Marineland Cornerflo 150XH set up with the stock durso since new last month (moved over from a durso-ed 90.) I need to bore one more hole through the wall for the emergency drain and then I'll be ready to rock. Keep the thread updated; I'd like to hear your experience!

The sucking sound of the durso sucks...especially since the system is the show piece right when you walk in my front door. I moved the sump to the basement so all systems would be near-silent. Last step is cleaning up the overflow/drain.

ghostman · 02/03/2015, 09:18 AM

Looks good to me too. What diameters are your siphon and emergency drains? The emergency would be able to handle as much flow in case of a clog. Nice setup!!! Looks great.

ca1ore · 02/03/2015, 09:40 AM

You might want to step up piping size on the open channel/backup inside the overflow (to 1 1/4" or even 1 1/2"). That allows the pipe to handle more water in the event the siphon is fully plugged. Of course, if you place a strainer over the top of the siphon, a complete blockage is almost impossible (at least, I've not had one in over 25 years). Unless you have lots of excess pump capacity, get rid of the loc line. Doesn't do all that much for in tank water movement and just robs your pump of flow.

mitchrapp · 02/03/2015, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ghostman

Looks good to me too. What diameters are your siphon and emergency drains? The emergency would be able to handle as much flow in case of a clog. Nice setup!!! Looks great.

They are both 1".

mitchrapp · 02/03/2015, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ca1ore

You might want to step up piping size on the open channel/backup inside the overflow (to 1 1/4" or even 1 1/2"). That allows the pipe to handle more water in the event the siphon is fully plugged. Of course, if you place a strainer over the top of the siphon, a complete blockage is almost impossible (at least, I've not had one in over 25 years). Unless you have lots of excess pump capacity, get rid of the loc line. Doesn't do all that much for in tank water movement and just robs your pump of flow.

Yeah, the loc line is mainly for looks. It's black and blends in with the tank trim and background. Plus it came with the tank. I also will have excess return pump capacity - I have a waveline dc6000 return pump. For movement within the tank, I have 2 jebao Rw-8 powerheads. I think I'll have plenty of flow in the tank with those for a 75G tank.

DieselJunkie · 02/03/2015, 11:57 AM

looks good to me!

Only thing I would do additionally is remove the return line that sticks off the back of the tank and give it a coat of black paint before finalizing everything!

02/03/2015, 08:26 AM	#1
mitchrapp Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 297	Herbie Plumbing Currently plumbing my FOWLR tank with a herbie overflow and wanted to get some thoughts on it. I have a built-in overflow in the corner, where I have the main and emergency drain. I haven't received my strainer yet, but will have one soon. The main drain is approx. 6 in below the emergency. It's a straight shot down the bulkhead, through a union, into a gate valve, and then down to the sump (which I haven't received yet either). I'm not planning on running any reactors (and if I do, I may get a separate pump) and will have a minimal refugium (probably just some live rock). So I'm going from the return pump, through a union, up through a gate valve, 90 horizontal, then a 90 vertical up the back of the tank, to a 90 street elbow into a dual locline at the top of the tank. How does it look? Anything you would do differently?

02/03/2015, 08:45 AM	#2
morleyz Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Crystal Lake, IL Posts: 304	Looks good to me. My only suggestion is to make sure you anchor the return line to the tank or stand. Once water is flowing, it might not be as stable without support. I love the username. Was my favorite book series and was so sad to see Flynn go at such a young age. __________________ -jeff

02/03/2015, 09:18 AM	#5
ghostman Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Spring Hill, Florida Posts: 1,629	Looks good to me too. What diameters are your siphon and emergency drains? The emergency would be able to handle as much flow in case of a clog. Nice setup!!! Looks great. __________________ When you die, you don't know you're dead. It's only difficult for the people around you. It's the same when you're stupid. Current Tank Info: 40IM Fusion, 40lbs of rock, and 20lbs of sand. Just a few fish and corals....for now.

02/03/2015, 09:40 AM	#6
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	You might want to step up piping size on the open channel/backup inside the overflow (to 1 1/4" or even 1 1/2"). That allows the pipe to handle more water in the event the siphon is fully plugged. Of course, if you place a strainer over the top of the siphon, a complete blockage is almost impossible (at least, I've not had one in over 25 years). Unless you have lots of excess pump capacity, get rid of the loc line. Doesn't do all that much for in tank water movement and just robs your pump of flow. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

02/03/2015, 08:53 AM	#3
mitchrapp Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 297	Yep, definitely plan on doing that. Yes, definitely sad Flynn went so young.

02/03/2015, 09:14 AM	#4
adamyaws Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 41	I'm right behind you on this. I've had my Marineland Cornerflo 150XH set up with the stock durso since new last month (moved over from a durso-ed 90.) I need to bore one more hole through the wall for the emergency drain and then I'll be ready to rock. Keep the thread updated; I'd like to hear your experience! The sucking sound of the durso sucks...especially since the system is the show piece right when you walk in my front door. I moved the sump to the basement so all systems would be near-silent. Last step is cleaning up the overflow/drain.

02/03/2015, 11:57 AM	#9
DieselJunkie Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 125	looks good to me! Only thing I would do additionally is remove the return line that sticks off the back of the tank and give it a coat of black paint before finalizing everything!