Lymph or ick? Hm

Oakes1523 · 03/26/2015, 02:15 AM

I have 2 clownfish, one of them has a fuzzy white thing on the front of his fin towards his face. The spot hasn't gone away in a while, I would say it's been there for almost 2 weeks? He also has another tiny white spot on him toward his tail. I understand lymph sticks out, but can it also look like ick too? Small white and flat? I heard if it was ick it would have fell off and reattached. But only one clownfish has it...I followed for 8 weeks and used copper in qt. So I was really bummed when I thought I had ick again. What do yall think it is? I'm about to fallow for 10 weeks now. But if it isn't ick, I'm doing it for no reason?? All I would have to do is QT the fish or just let it be if it's lymph because there is no cure besides a healthy tank and good feelings.

Oakes1523 · 03/26/2015, 10:54 AM

Bump

gone fishin · 03/26/2015, 11:03 AM

Kind of hard to say without a pic. If it has been there for a solid 2 weeks then I would be inclined to say it is not ich. Could be lymph, but that is all just a guess.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2389659

There is a diagnosis section in the link see what fits.

Oakes1523 · 03/26/2015, 11:15 AM

It's on the left side facing you, it kind of sticks out and is kinda big

Oakes1523 · 03/26/2015, 11:18 AM

This one is more on the base of his phone, irregular shaped, fuzzy

But the first pic fell off a while ago, the one has been there since the other fell off. But this one is flat, not poking out. Just a white dot. And Iv looked at pics, he could have both, but the spot on the base of his fin has been there for a while. Maybe over two weeks, the others have fallen off after a while and came back in a different position

Dmorty217 · 03/26/2015, 11:28 AM

If it falls off and comes back its not Lymph. Lymph is a bacterial issue with no know cure. Excellent water quality along with varied, enriched diet is the only cure and it could take weeks to months to go away

Oakes1523 · 03/26/2015, 11:37 AM

Well each spot has been on him for weeks and feel off, some more than others but it takes about a week for one of them to fall off, this other spot has been on him for 2-3 weeks? How do explain that? If it was ick wouldn't it have fallen off? This spot hasn't

Oakes1523 · 03/26/2015, 11:38 AM

Just fed them, he eats like crazy. Crazier than the healthy looking fish

Dmorty217 · 03/26/2015, 12:35 PM

Ich cyst fall off within 3-7 days so a week could still be ich. The pictures aren't the clearest so it's difficult to tell. The other spot that has been there for a few weeks sounds like Lymph to me

ca1ore · 03/26/2015, 12:40 PM

I also think lymph is waaay over diagnosed - if in doubt ..... must be lymph. I only ever had it in one fish, a Venusta angel, and it took a while but went away on its own (though I think it's viral not bacterial). What you have doesn't look like ich. It may simply be some kind of bacterial or fungal infection; particularly given the longer duration. In both cases I'd just feed well, keep water quality as high as possible, and just wait it out. If your fish, particularly clowns, begin the get a whitish haze with clamped fins, then you're talking brook most likely, and that most definitely cannot be waited out.

Oakes1523 · 03/26/2015, 12:58 PM

I don't know if I should start fallowing and take fish out because it might not be ick and I would be throwing away 10weeks and be stressing the fish out for no apparent reason. Or just leave them in, I have had these clowns only for a long time. And I want to add for fish to start QT. But don't know if I should take everyone out and fallow or leave it alone!

JoelA7 · 03/27/2015, 01:39 AM

Can't see well but Amphipod?

pyithar · 03/27/2015, 01:56 AM

i don't think amphipod would stay at the same place on the side of the fish body for two to three weeks. it sounds like lymph to me.

Oakes1523 · 03/27/2015, 07:17 AM

Does lymph always stick off the body? Is it always relatively big? My clown has a big spot and a tiny spot

Dmorty217 · 03/27/2015, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ca1ore

I also think lymph is waaay over diagnosed - if in doubt ..... must be lymph. I only ever had it in one fish, a Venusta angel, and it took a while but went away on its own (though I think it's viral not bacterial). What you have doesn't look like ich. It may simply be some kind of bacterial or fungal infection; particularly given the longer duration. In both cases I'd just feed well, keep water quality as high as possible, and just wait it out. If your fish, particularly clowns, begin the get a whitish haze with clamped fins, then you're talking brook most likely, and that most definitely cannot be waited out.

Couldn't agree more. I have only had one fish that ever had lymph and I caused it due to cupramine with a emperor angel. It took about 3 months to fully go away

Oakes1523 · 03/29/2015, 12:57 AM

Two spots still there on my clownfish, lymph?

03/26/2015, 02:15 AM	#1
Oakes1523 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 189	Lymph or ick? Hm I have 2 clownfish, one of them has a fuzzy white thing on the front of his fin towards his face. The spot hasn't gone away in a while, I would say it's been there for almost 2 weeks? He also has another tiny white spot on him toward his tail. I understand lymph sticks out, but can it also look like ick too? Small white and flat? I heard if it was ick it would have fell off and reattached. But only one clownfish has it...I followed for 8 weeks and used copper in qt. So I was really bummed when I thought I had ick again. What do yall think it is? I'm about to fallow for 10 weeks now. But if it isn't ick, I'm doing it for no reason?? All I would have to do is QT the fish or just let it be if it's lymph because there is no cure besides a healthy tank and good feelings.

03/26/2015, 11:03 AM	#3
gone fishin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wyocena Wi Posts: 6,936	Kind of hard to say without a pic. If it has been there for a solid 2 weeks then I would be inclined to say it is not ich. Could be lymph, but that is all just a guess. http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2389659 There is a diagnosis section in the link see what fits. __________________ Tony Current Tank Info: 180gal DT, BM NAC77 skimmer,3 Maxspect razors, Maxspect Gyre 150, 30g QT

03/26/2015, 11:28 AM	#6
Dmorty217 Saltwater Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Vandalia OHIO Posts: 11,624	If it falls off and comes back its not Lymph. Lymph is a bacterial issue with no know cure. Excellent water quality along with varied, enriched diet is the only cure and it could take weeks to months to go away __________________ Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs

03/26/2015, 12:35 PM	#9
Dmorty217 Saltwater Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Vandalia OHIO Posts: 11,624	Ich cyst fall off within 3-7 days so a week could still be ich. The pictures aren't the clearest so it's difficult to tell. The other spot that has been there for a few weeks sounds like Lymph to me __________________ Fish are not disposable commodities, but a worthwhile investment that can be maintained and enjoyed for many years, providing one is willing to take the time to understand their requirements and needs Current Tank Info: 625g, 220g sump, RD3 230w, Vectra L1 on a closed loop, 3 MP60s, MP40. Several QTs

03/26/2015, 12:40 PM	#10
ca1ore Grizzled & Cynical Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 17,319	I also think lymph is waaay over diagnosed - if in doubt ..... must be lymph. I only ever had it in one fish, a Venusta angel, and it took a while but went away on its own (though I think it's viral not bacterial). What you have doesn't look like ich. It may simply be some kind of bacterial or fungal infection; particularly given the longer duration. In both cases I'd just feed well, keep water quality as high as possible, and just wait it out. If your fish, particularly clowns, begin the get a whitish haze with clamped fins, then you're talking brook most likely, and that most definitely cannot be waited out. __________________ Simon Got back into the hobby ..... planned to keep it simple ..... yeah, right ..... clearly I need a new plan! Pet peeve: anemones host clowns; clowns do not host anemones! Current Tank Info: 450 Reef; 120 refugium; 60 Frag Tank, 30 Introduction tank; multiple QTs

03/26/2015, 10:54 AM	#2
Oakes1523 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 189	Bump

03/26/2015, 11:37 AM	#7
Oakes1523 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 189	Well each spot has been on him for weeks and feel off, some more than others but it takes about a week for one of them to fall off, this other spot has been on him for 2-3 weeks? How do explain that? If it was ick wouldn't it have fallen off? This spot hasn't

03/26/2015, 11:38 AM	#8
Oakes1523 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 189	Just fed them, he eats like crazy. Crazier than the healthy looking fish

03/26/2015, 12:58 PM	#11
Oakes1523 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 189	I don't know if I should start fallowing and take fish out because it might not be ick and I would be throwing away 10weeks and be stressing the fish out for no apparent reason. Or just leave them in, I have had these clowns only for a long time. And I want to add for fish to start QT. But don't know if I should take everyone out and fallow or leave it alone!

03/27/2015, 01:39 AM	#12
JoelA7 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,056	Can't see well but Amphipod? __________________ New 48x24x26.25 w Precision Marine R30 sump, Vertex Omega 150 skimmer, 2@Vertex 1.5L reactors for carbon & phosban, GEO Ca reactor w Aquarium Plants regulator. 2 MP40's 2@Radions. #120 live rock & #12

03/27/2015, 01:56 AM	#13
pyithar Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: yangon,burma(myanmar) Posts: 1,786	i don't think amphipod would stay at the same place on the side of the fish body for two to three weeks. it sounds like lymph to me. __________________ take it easy, pyithar Current Tank Info: 150G display, 50G sump, mixed reef

03/27/2015, 07:17 AM	#14
Oakes1523 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 189	Does lymph always stick off the body? Is it always relatively big? My clown has a big spot and a tiny spot

03/29/2015, 12:57 AM	#16
Oakes1523 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 189	Two spots still there on my clownfish, lymph?