Help! Hippa Tang is in trouble

[ca1ore]

Originally Posted by Canneddynomite

Its a troll thread, My fish has a "cloudy eye" and and skin issues.... yea....the fish has almost no eye and looks like as Bent suggested, a lawn mower hit it. No one would be so blatantly ignorant to let a fish get to that point unless they were under the age of 10. Which I guess could be possible but Im leaning towards a troll thread with a picture of a fish someone found online.

Anything's possible - but I don't think so. Next time you are in a restaurant (or mall) that has a fish tank, check out the fish. Maybe not quite as bad as here, but I've seen more than a few (advanced HLLE with secondary bacterial infections) that looked like death warmed over.

[BrandonFlorida]

Originally Posted by billdogg

I disagree with this^^^

Way back in the day (mid 80's, FWIW) I made pretty much every mistake there is to be made in this hobby, and sadly, the creatures paid a higher price than me for my lack of knowledge. Had I given up then, I would have missed out on a whole world of learning opportunities. Instead, I persevered, and learned from my mistakes. I'm quite certain i have plenty more mistakes to make. Certainly, if the internet and forums like this one had been available back then I could probably have avoided many of them, but Al Gore hadn't invented it yet

I hope that the OP will pay attention to what some of us are trying to help him learn and can therefore do better in the future.

So say this was a dog and he wanted to know why the dog looked almost dead and in pain, would you feel the same way? I mean it is his first dog.. I am sure anyone that saw a dog in this condition would call someone to rescue this poor dog..

I just don't get that logic. All animals to me, fish, dog, or other is something that deserves to be treated with love and respect and needs to be researched. This is not the 80s, this is the day in age where information is available at a keystroke. This guy should put the tank for sale, and start researching and figuring out the best plan for whatever animal he would like to keep and do a tank at a later date.

[billsreef]

Originally Posted by karimwassef

Let's not gang up on the poor OP. There's probably a lot more backstory.

I guess I just wouldn't judge based on one piece of data, regardless of how bad it is.

Originally Posted by billdogg

I disagree with this^^^

Way back in the day (mid 80's, FWIW) I made pretty much every mistake there is to be made in this hobby, and sadly, the creatures paid a higher price than me for my lack of knowledge. Had I given up then, I would have missed out on a whole world of learning opportunities. Instead, I persevered, and learned from my mistakes. I'm quite certain i have plenty more mistakes to make. Certainly, if the internet and forums like this one had been available back then I could probably have avoided many of them, but Al Gore hadn't invented it yet

I hope that the OP will pay attention to what some of us are trying to help him learn and can therefore do better in the future.

Originally Posted by ca1ore

My initial thoughts as well. That the OP has been trying to resolve the issue for a while suggests that its not brook or velvet, and probably not ich.

BTW, just as general observation. I do find the 'holier than thou' mentality that pervades many of these kinds of threads a bit hypocritical. Though only a few posts does not necessarily mean the OP is a newbie to the hobby, his (or her?) comments certainly suggest that to be the case. I've been in the hobby almost 30 years, but back when I was new, I made some foolish choices as well (back then I got yelled at by a fellow fish keeper, rather than online 'strangers' ). I'd argue that to be true for the vast majority of us; and anyone who claims otherwise is likely either being dishonest or has a poor memory. Taking this person out to the proverbial woodshed doesn't seem terribly constructive - just serves to guarantee he'll not be back here.

Some good points by some knowledgeable veterans of RC and the hobby.

Also it seems another reminder is in order....


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[CaminDFW2]

Originally Posted by Canneddynomite

Its a troll thread, My fish has a "cloudy eye" and and skin issues.... yea....the fish has almost no eye and looks like as Bent suggested, a lawn mower hit it. No one would be so blatantly ignorant to let a fish get to that point unless they were under the age of 10. Which I guess could be possible but Im leaning towards a troll thread with a picture of a fish someone found online.

I was thinking the same thing.. I mean Hippa Tang... Not even a typo you can make..

I would advise that the mods close/delete this thread. If this is a "true" issue, the only resolution is death.. of the fish and of this posting..

[DasCamel]

Troll or not the OP prolly ran away from thread ASAP.


Regarding killing a fish humanely, as long as it's quick does it really matter? The ice bath would be easy, fish would be numb within seconds and effectively dead under 30 seconds.

[CStrickland]

Originally Posted by DasCamel

Regarding killing a fish humanely, as long as it's quick does it really matter? The ice bath would be easy, fish would be numb within seconds and effectively dead under 30 seconds.

I think it's alot about the owner's feelings too, they might thrash around like when you do a freshwater dip? There's another way listed in the Vet Guide called a "macerator" that sounds like a its a fancy blender. There's a note to the effect that - while done correctly macerator death is instantaneous, and therefore not painful, many practitioners find the procedure disturbing. eww.

I would imaging that clove oil is like going to sleep gently. But I was just harping on it before to correct the false info that was being spread.

[billsreef]

Originally Posted by CStrickland

I think it's alot about the owner's feelings too, they might thrash around like when you do a freshwater dip? There's another way listed in the Vet Guide called a "macerator" that sounds like a its a fancy blender. There's a note to the effect that - while done correctly macerator death is instantaneous, and therefore not painful, many practitioners find the procedure disturbing. eww.

I would imaging that clove oil is like going to sleep gently. But I was just harping on it before to correct the false info that was being spread.

With the ice water slurry (assuming your icing down SW and not dumping them into straight FW icewater) they actually seem to react less then they do to either clove oil or MS-222. As for the macerator, yes, that is exactly what it sounds like. I've never used that particular method, so no first hand observations of it.

[CStrickland]

Originally Posted by billsreef

With the ice water slurry (assuming your icing down SW and not dumping them into straight FW icewater) they actually seem to react less then they do to either clove oil or MS-222. As for the macerator, yes, that is exactly what it sounds like. I've never used that particular method, so no first hand observations of it.

oh duh, iced salt water lol,

[billsreef]

Originally Posted by CStrickland

oh duh, iced salt water lol,

Yup. Unless of course your working with fresh water fish

[Shawn O]

Heck, hitting it in the head with a club would be merciful at this point. The original post made me think that if this one fish was this bad off the rest of the fish aren't too far behind and probably too far gone.

Then again, this image came to mind, as well.

[CaminDFW2]

A little off topic (not that it matters at this point)..I have had to euthanize one fish (caught badly in an MP10).. I used room temperature vodka.. There was zero thrashing.. That is what I have always done.. As I drink Goose.. The fish went out in style..

[3dees]

really, is this the only person to put the wrong fish in the wrong size tank? it's a mistake that hopefully he will learn from, although I would like to know his reasoning for the temp. as for the fish, it's done for. I'll probably get flamed, but c'mon, it's a fish. take it out, lay it down, take a knife and cut behind the gills. quick and clean. it's not like putting your dog down.

[Bent]

Why would a knife and a hammer be bad? That's how I've always offed my catches rather than gutting them alive which I never have the heart to do.

Lay it down, hold the knife to it behind the gills, hammer down fast and hard. The Head comes clean off.

I know I said I wasn't following the thread, but since the OP is gone and we are talking about a different subject. I came back.

[CStrickland]

yeah, I used to get teased when I worked in restaurants for bashing a knife into the lobster's face before I boiled it. Same idea, also they're supposed to taste better if they aren't panicked when they die. *shrugs*
I think you are supposed to hit the brain though instead of just decapitating. Check out Mike the headless chicken :0
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/...hout-his-head/

[CStrickland]

double post. bad phone

[Shawn O]

As a teenager I used to work in a seafood restaurant making the baked, stuffed lobster. We killed them by shoving the point of a butcher knife into the spot between the tail and abdomen and then bringing the handle down, cutting through the body/head. Spin it around and do the same to the tail. Split the whole thing down the middle by grasping it tightly, using thumbs to pull the body apart while pushing upward in the center of the back with the finger tips (I hope that made sense). CRACK! At that point I'd use my fingers to rip out all of the guts. Fill the body cavity and tail with a bread crumb mixture and drown with melted butter. Not really a fun job but we got free chicken fingers and soda. 0.o

[anthonys51]

why do we really care. its a fish. fillet it and cook it

[DopeCantWin]

This has been the creepiest thread I've seen ever on this site. It should have stopped and been closed around page 1.

[Bent]

Originally Posted by CStrickland

yeah, I used to get teased when I worked in restaurants for bashing a knife into the lobster's face before I boiled it. Same idea, also they're supposed to taste better if they aren't panicked when they die. *shrugs*
I think you are supposed to hit the brain though instead of just decapitating. Check out Mike the headless chicken :0
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/...hout-his-head/

Oh yeah man. Lots of the bird flapping and running is supposedly nerve activity only from what I've been told.

I have decapitated many types of birds in my day and all of them flap and try to run with no head. Turkeys, geese, chicken, ducks, all of them.

[Nina51]

Originally Posted by DopeCantWin

This has been the creepiest thread I've seen ever on this site. It should have stopped and been closed around page 1.

my thoughts as i read through this. my first thought was, how is this fish still alive?? very sad.

[CStrickland]

Originally Posted by Bent

Oh yeah man. Lots of the bird flapping and running is supposedly nerve activity only from what I've been told.

I have decapitated many types of birds in my day and all of them flap and try to run with no head. Turkeys, geese, chicken, ducks, all of them.

I guess their brains are kinda spread out down the neck a little so it's easy to leave some behind?
Mike joined the circus and "lived" for 18 months

[Sugar Magnolia]

Done and closed.