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Unread 11/17/2015, 09:45 AM   #1
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did i buy a sick fish? it dead 2 days i got him.

well, my tank has been running for 5 month. i have alot corals in my tank they are doing well, no aggressive animal. 2 day ago i got a clown fish, last night i saw his tail and fin started melting. this morning he die. first day i got him, i dip him with fresh water and coral dip before i put him in my tank.
it cant be my tank fault right? because the corals always healthy, i also have a scooter blenny in side.


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Unread 11/17/2015, 10:03 AM   #2
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well, my tank has been running for 5 month. i have alot corals in my tank they are doing well, no aggressive animal. 2 day ago i got a clown fish, last night i saw his tail and fin started melting. this morning he die. first day i got him, i dip him with fresh water and coral dip before i put him in my tank.
it cant be my tank fault right? because the corals always healthy, i also have a scooter blenny in side.
i dont think it had anything to do with your water quality. its more likely the fish had some disease(you should quarantine any new additions before introducing them to the DT, theres tons of info on that here if you search.)

also im not sure im understanding you correctly or if you meant something else but you say you dipped the fish in coral dip? i dont imagine that did the fish any good and probably stressed it more if not outright killed it. i would check the stickies in the disease section for information on treating and preventing disease's in fish.


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Unread 11/17/2015, 10:36 AM   #3
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I don't think coral dip is good for fish. Unless you meant something else? But it says on my bottle to not use it on fish, inverts, etc. That could quite possibly "melt" the fin and stress the fish out to the point of death.


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Unread 11/17/2015, 10:45 AM   #4
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IF corals are doing well in your tank I would guess your water is good. Not having the parameters this is only a guess

You don't ever dip fish in anything accept fresh water or a medication specifically for fish. Coral dip was likely the cause of your fish dying. Why on earth did you even think of doing that


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Coral Dip? I think you answered your question...


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Unread 11/17/2015, 01:34 PM   #6
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because someone advice to use coral dip for anemone, so i guess it work for fish too


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Unread 11/17/2015, 02:27 PM   #7
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You don't dip anemone's in coral dip either. I think you need to find someone new to talk with for advice on a marine reef tank.


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I would make a pretty confident guess that the "coral" dip did the fish in.


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Yeah, that's more than likely what killed your fish (and surprisingly...not your nem.) Feel free to come here and ask any questions you want answered. That's what I did when I built my first tank. You live and learn. Almost everyone has screwed something up before.


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Unread 11/17/2015, 05:34 PM   #10
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I didn't know you shouldn't use Coral dip for anemones. What other corals should you not dip?


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Unread 11/17/2015, 06:15 PM   #11
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There's a reason it's called coral dip.


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Unread 11/17/2015, 06:26 PM   #12
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I would make a pretty confident guess that the "coral" dip did the fish in.
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I didn't know you shouldn't use Coral dip for anemones. What other corals should you not dip?
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because someone advice to use coral dip for anemone, so i guess it work for fish too
I am just too curious. What was reasoning behind this advice?

FWIW I would not listen to their advice anymore.


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Anemone's are not corals.


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because someone advice to use coral dip for anemone, so i guess it work for fish too
Think of this stuff as medicine. Just like if your cat had a stuffy nose you wouldn't give him people medicine unless you asked the vet first, or you wouldn't take stuffy nose medicine if you had a stomachache. It's the same with tanks, you have to check first that you are using the right chemical for the job before you do anything like that.

Another thing is scooter blennies usually need special food. Are you buying pods for him?


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Unread 11/17/2015, 07:20 PM   #17
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because someone advice to use coral dip for anemone, so i guess it work for fish too
You should not listen to everyone who gives advice on this stuff. First look at their tank and find out how long its been running to make sure they know what they're talking about.


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Unread 11/18/2015, 06:23 PM   #18
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Think of this stuff as medicine. Just like if your cat had a stuffy nose you wouldn't give him people medicine unless you asked the vet first, or you wouldn't take stuffy nose medicine if you had a stomachache. It's the same with tanks, you have to check first that you are using the right chemical for the job before you do anything like that.

Another thing is scooter blennies usually need special food. Are you buying pods for him?
My scooter bblenny eating the small lives in the tank, I guess pods. They were all over my glass, now is pretty much gone, I hope there are more in the rock and they reproduce
People said brine shrimp work as well


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My scooter bblenny eating the small lives in the tank, I guess pods. They were all over my glass, now is pretty much gone, I hope there are more in the rock
That's how it goes with scooters, they eat all the pods from the tank and then they starve. Here is a thread with information about how to take care of pet scooters
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2446049


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Think of this stuff as medicine. Just like if your cat had a stuffy nose you wouldn't give him people medicine unless you asked the vet first, or you wouldn't take stuffy nose medicine if you had a stomachache. It's the same with tanks, you have to check first that you are using the right chemical for the job before you do anything like that.

Another thing is scooter blennies usually need special food. Are you buying pods for him?
Actually...

People meds and animal meds are actually the same.

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Actually...
People meds and animal meds are actually the same.
Fun fact of the day.
I think you misread my post. When a med is appropriate for an animal, the people version is usually fine. I've used benadryl for example. But obviously only after talking to my vet.

If your cat or dog had a stuffy nose so you gave him pseudoephedrine (a very common people stuffy nose medicine) without talking to a vet first, you would seriously disrupt several bodily functions including heart rate, body temp regulation, and blood pressure; you might also cause seizures. Or if your pet got like a sprained ankle or whatev and you gave NSAIDs, or acetaminophen, that would be ruhl bad too. Some people medicines are deadly to pets.

so like I said, if your cat has a stuffy nose you don't want to give people medicine unless you talk to your vet first. Or if your OP, you don't use coral meds on fish unless you check with somebody knowledgeable first.


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I think you misread my post. When a med is appropriate for an animal, the people version is usually fine. I've used benadryl for example. But obviously only after talking to my vet.

If your cat or dog had a stuffy nose so you gave him pseudoephedrine (a very common people stuffy nose medicine) without talking to a vet first, you would seriously disrupt several bodily functions including heart rate, body temp regulation, and blood pressure; you might also cause seizures. Or if your pet got like a sprained ankle or whatev and you gave NSAIDs, or acetaminophen, that would be ruhl bad too. Some people medicines are deadly to pets.

so like I said, if your cat has a stuffy nose you don't want to give people medicine unless you talk to your vet first. Or if your OP, you don't use coral meds on fish unless you check with somebody knowledgeable first.
Ahhhhhh.

Ok I'm on the same page now.


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