Pro-tein skimmer looks promising

shifty51008 · 11/30/2015, 08:16 PM

Just saw the video of a new skimmer comming to market and must say it looks very promising, really a plug and play skimmer, no valves to adjust, self leveling, and can be ran in 1" of water, water fluctuations have no impact on it either.

shifty51008 · 11/30/2015, 08:21 PM

https://youtu.be/Tv6GI4rw0sg

There is the video

gone fishin · 11/30/2015, 08:27 PM

That is pretty cool. I would like to see one in person.

cruzo · 11/30/2015, 08:40 PM

I would like to see the skim that comes out.

alexx2208 · 12/07/2015, 01:53 PM

I find it just a little sketchy that their first sales started yesterday in a CASINO SILENT AUCTION.

C.Eymann · 12/07/2015, 01:59 PM

TUNZE master DOC skimmers are pretty much plug in play too, can be ran in a variety of water levels, so this new skimmer really isn't that much of a breakthough.

Besides I like having the option to skim wet or dry.

SkullV · 12/07/2015, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by alexx2208

I find it just a little sketchy that their first sales started yesterday in a CASINO SILENT AUCTION.

It's actually a good way to determine MSRP. Many companies use crowdfunding to determine market value.

christopherjudd · 12/07/2015, 02:57 PM

Downside of it is it looks massive height wise...

gcarroll · 12/07/2015, 02:57 PM

Personally I think recirculating the air on a skimmer is a horrible idea. One huge advantage of a skimmer is introducing fresh O2 and blowing off CO2. This helps raise PH as well. Am I missing something that they are doing different?

alexx2208 · 12/07/2015, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SkullV

It's actually a good way to determine MSRP. Many companies use crowdfunding to determine market value.

Yes, but this isn't crowdfunding, this is literally an attempt at determining a random price at a random casino. MSRP should be determined by comparing to other products on the market, and crowdfunding should be done on Kickstarter or Indiegogo. This wasn't either IMO....

SkullV · 12/07/2015, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by alexx2208

Yes, but this isn't crowdfunding, this is literally an attempt at determining a random price at a random casino. MSRP should be determined by comparing to other products on the market, and crowdfunding should be done on Kickstarter or Indiegogo. This wasn't either IMO....

It's the same concept, see what the market will pay for the product by offering it to anonymous purchasers. Just because the sites you listed are the most popular (cutrently) internet based crowdfunding sites doesn't make them the only place "crowdfunding should be done" as you put it. I believe the auction location is also a venue local to the designer/patent holder.

alexx2208 · 12/07/2015, 04:38 PM

Yes, I agree with what you are saying, but you have stated my concern. A local crowdfunding function in a casino won't necessarily give an accurate MSRP, especially due to the fact that silent auctions are rigged to make you overpay by only allowing one person per lot to win, causing people to overpay to win.

sean2sean · 04/29/2016, 10:58 AM

Anybody tried out this skimmer yet?

AZRippster · 04/29/2016, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by gcarroll

Personally I think recirculating the air on a skimmer is a horrible idea. One huge advantage of a skimmer is introducing fresh O2 and blowing off CO2. This helps raise PH as well. Am I missing something that they are doing different?

I totally agree with this statement. I own a Life Reef and love it, but the air recirc feature does impact pH. I ended up bringing in fresh air to counteract this issue.

thegasman2000 · 04/29/2016, 02:43 PM

That website is the hardest 1999 I have seen in a while. The thing that worries me is the filter pads? Seems weird to add them there.

jrp1588 · 04/29/2016, 02:47 PM

I'm just sitting here wondering, "Is she just reading a script, or is she really a reefer?" Don't think I've ever seen a woman like that at my LFS! haha

Mr. Brooks · 04/29/2016, 03:16 PM

I can't seem to find any pictures or videos of this skimmer installed on a tank.

sean2sean · 04/29/2016, 03:20 PM

There's none so far...

ThRoewer · 04/29/2016, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gcarroll

Personally I think recirculating the air on a skimmer is a horrible idea. One huge advantage of a skimmer is introducing fresh O2 and blowing off CO2. This helps raise PH as well. Am I missing something that they are doing different?

In the comments below the video they state that you can insert a T to add external air, O2 or CO2.

QUOTE:"...
I am glad you asked the question about gas exchange! Every sump tank system inherently has gas exchange occurring when the water falls into the sump tank via pluming. Does your tank look like mine here in this video? https://youtu.be/OJuyHG6bvco. Secondly, my skimmer is not a tight sealed system. Notice when Alex turns the unit on she holds the top down. The air in the main chamber is exiting past the O-ring in the lid allowing the chamber to be filled with water. A tight seal would prevent the chamber from filling with water.

With the PRO-TEIN CLEAN you can now do something you couldn't do before. You can cut the outer tube in half, insert a "T" and connect CO2 or O2 tank with regulator to the skimmer to heavily saturate the water with what your system needs most. Aquarium Paradise in Lakewood has a mostly invertebrate show tank with CO2 injection saturating the water for the invertebrates. As we all know fish turn O2 into CO2 and organic life turns CO2 into O2. Thanks again for asking."

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Originally Posted by christopherjudd

Downside of it is it looks massive height wise...

My issue with it is the low height and water level. I use a 40B as sump and it has at least 12 inches of water level. I'm looking for an in-sump skimmer that can handle up to 15 inch water level and is in total about 24 to 28 inches tall Taller is always better if you got the space, so I don't want to waste height by adding a pedestal. Otherwise I would have just bought a Tunze skimmer.

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Originally Posted by thegasman2000

... The thing that worries me is the filter pads? Seems weird to add them there.

I already think that bubble plates are a bad idea (at least on the inlet end) - this foam pad will likely be a part that needs constant cleaning/replacement and since it is deep inside it will likely require to take the skimmer out to reach it.

Another thing I don't like is the air pipe/regulator inside the foam tube. This makes it impossible to install an automatic neck cleaner.

PorkChop · 04/29/2016, 06:08 PM

I'd say there are two things that would keep me from every buying this even if it was the best skimmer ever made...

1) That weird float thing in the neck. As soon as I saw it the first thing in my head was, "that's going to break" and then "why is it in the neck to block the foam head?"

2) That filter pad. No way in hell I'm going to keep that thing clean enough. Not to mention that as it fills with crap the skimmer is going to suffer, no?

I don't know just my thoughts.

-Porkchop

theatrus · 04/29/2016, 06:18 PM

Based on the patent, it would appear to use the float switch in the foam head to regulate the air intake:

http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=0...6RS=PN/9078419

ChimolaFish · 04/29/2016, 07:06 PM

Looks trashy with poor build quality. I'll check it out when it finally comes to market and has a couple years of testing.

rpc07 · 04/29/2016, 07:21 PM

Quick distract them with a pretty girl so they don't pay attention to the skimmer.

Mr. Brooks · 04/29/2016, 10:18 PM

Where exactly does it pull air from? Right next to skimmate?

Mike de Leon · 08/25/2018, 01:15 PM

I guess this never took off?

11/30/2015, 08:16 PM	#1
shifty51008 12-5 Chiefs record Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 10,134	Pro-tein skimmer looks promising Just saw the video of a new skimmer comming to market and must say it looks very promising, really a plug and play skimmer, no valves to adjust, self leveling, and can be ran in 1" of water, water fluctuations have no impact on it either. __________________ 75 gal. mixed DT, 100 gal. sump, 50 gal. fuge, Clownfish breeder

11/30/2015, 08:21 PM	#2
shifty51008 12-5 Chiefs record Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 10,134	https://youtu.be/Tv6GI4rw0sg There is the video __________________ 75 gal. mixed DT, 100 gal. sump, 50 gal. fuge, Clownfish breeder

11/30/2015, 08:27 PM	#3
gone fishin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wyocena Wi Posts: 6,936	That is pretty cool. I would like to see one in person. __________________ Tony Current Tank Info: 180gal DT, BM NAC77 skimmer,3 Maxspect razors, Maxspect Gyre 150, 30g QT

12/07/2015, 01:59 PM	#6
C.Eymann Cnidaria lover Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Winterpark FL Posts: 1,483	TUNZE master DOC skimmers are pretty much plug in play too, can be ran in a variety of water levels, so this new skimmer really isn't that much of a breakthough. Besides I like having the option to skim wet or dry. __________________ "I glue animals to rocks" Current Tank Info: 80gal build in the works

12/07/2015, 02:57 PM	#9
gcarroll Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 9,666	Personally I think recirculating the air on a skimmer is a horrible idea. One huge advantage of a skimmer is introducing fresh O2 and blowing off CO2. This helps raise PH as well. Am I missing something that they are doing different? __________________ Greg Carroll I will be at REEF-A-PALOOZA! SPS = Stability Promotes Success Be wary of advice coming from those who will not show you the fruits of their success! Current Tank Info: building: 250g AGE Euro tank, Abyzz A200, Vertex Supra-G filtration, Ecotech Radion Pro LEDs, ...

11/30/2015, 08:40 PM	#4
cruzo Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 10	I would like to see the skim that comes out.

12/07/2015, 01:53 PM	#5
alexx2208 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Oviedo, Florida Posts: 254	I find it just a little sketchy that their first sales started yesterday in a CASINO SILENT AUCTION.

12/07/2015, 02:57 PM	#8
christopherjudd Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 419	Downside of it is it looks massive height wise...

12/07/2015, 04:38 PM	#12
alexx2208 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Oviedo, Florida Posts: 254	Yes, I agree with what you are saying, but you have stated my concern. A local crowdfunding function in a casino won't necessarily give an accurate MSRP, especially due to the fact that silent auctions are rigged to make you overpay by only allowing one person per lot to win, causing people to overpay to win.

04/29/2016, 10:58 AM	#13
sean2sean Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: El Monte, CA Posts: 722	Anybody tried out this skimmer yet?

04/29/2016, 02:43 PM	#15
thegasman2000 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pewsey, England Posts: 91	That website is the hardest 1999 I have seen in a while. The thing that worries me is the filter pads? Seems weird to add them there. __________________ The Google Fu is strong in this one. Current Tank Info: 90 gallon sumped cube

04/29/2016, 02:47 PM	#16
jrp1588 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 1,864	I'm just sitting here wondering, "Is she just reading a script, or is she really a reefer?" Don't think I've ever seen a woman like that at my LFS! haha

04/29/2016, 03:16 PM	#17
Mr. Brooks MASVC Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 3,477	I can't seem to find any pictures or videos of this skimmer installed on a tank.

04/29/2016, 03:20 PM	#18
sean2sean Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: El Monte, CA Posts: 722	There's none so far...

04/29/2016, 06:08 PM	#20
PorkChop Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 161	I'd say there are two things that would keep me from every buying this even if it was the best skimmer ever made... 1) That weird float thing in the neck. As soon as I saw it the first thing in my head was, "that's going to break" and then "why is it in the neck to block the foam head?" 2) That filter pad. No way in hell I'm going to keep that thing clean enough. Not to mention that as it fills with crap the skimmer is going to suffer, no? I don't know just my thoughts. -Porkchop

04/29/2016, 06:18 PM	#21
theatrus 100-mile-commuter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: almost nevada Posts: 4,721	Based on the patent, it would appear to use the float switch in the foam head to regulate the air intake: http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=0...6RS=PN/9078419 __________________ Custom electronics purveyor. blueAcro.com Current Tank Info: 90g SPS+mixed reef (10 yrs): LEDBrick LEDs, 40g custom sump, Ca reactor, chiller, Vortech, lots of custom electronics

04/29/2016, 07:06 PM	#22
ChimolaFish Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 560	Looks trashy with poor build quality. I'll check it out when it finally comes to market and has a couple years of testing. __________________ 300 Penninsula: Mixed Reef, 3 Hawaiian Dwarf Morays, 3 Watanabe Angels, 4 Molucca Damsels, 3 Staghorn Damsels, 1 Sgt Major, 1 Springer's, and 1 Magnificient Foxface.

04/29/2016, 07:21 PM	#23
rpc07 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 272	Quick distract them with a pretty girl so they don't pay attention to the skimmer.

04/29/2016, 10:18 PM	#24
Mr. Brooks MASVC Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 3,477	Where exactly does it pull air from? Right next to skimmate?

08/25/2018, 01:15 PM	#25
Mike de Leon Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ont. Canada Posts: 2,308	I guess this never took off? __________________ Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.. Current Tank Info: 180 Gallon, 3 G4 Radions