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Unread 04/15/2016, 11:08 PM   #26
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Thanks for the info, sounds like I am going to have more issues to get annoyed with. We all need to continuously email Kessil so they are aware. I have sent a couple emails to them and have had zero response. First one was about a month ago. Luckily for me the tank isn't up and running yet. Did they give an update for when the new software was due to come out?


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Unread 04/15/2016, 11:27 PM   #27
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Thanks for the info, sounds like I am going to have more issues to get annoyed with. We all need to continuously email Kessil so they are aware. I have sent a couple emails to them and have had zero response. First one was about a month ago. Luckily for me the tank isn't up and running yet. Did they give an update for when the new software was due to come out?


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Unread 04/17/2016, 07:23 PM   #28
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Kessil was supposedly testing this light for over a year before release.

I wonder what the heck they were testing with all of these problems left...


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Unread 04/17/2016, 09:25 PM   #29
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Just fyi. I saw on their Facebook page that you can opt into the beta programs for the phone apps now.


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Unread 04/17/2016, 10:39 PM   #30
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Glad I didn't spend $900 on this product!!! Bottom of the barrel E Machines have better clock chips if that says anything!


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Unread 04/17/2016, 10:41 PM   #31
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They have the iPhone app now? I don't see it.


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Unread 04/17/2016, 11:48 PM   #32
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It's in invite-only beta testing right now. 6 months post release, and still no phone apps for general use.


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Unread 04/26/2016, 11:42 PM   #33
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Beta Testing Works!!

Well I took the advice, sent in my info and 24 hours later I got the invite to beta test the app. It works very well, so much better than the iPad mini, the main thing is both lights work together exactly. I thought for a second there I was going to have to send one of the lights back as I was running the exact same program for both lights but they were doing different things. It also appears that the moonlight is even dimmer (previously people were saying that the moon light was way too bright), the storm and cloud modes work. I haven't tested a cycle yet but I will once I set up a program (as some of you may know I am still in set up mode of my 300 gallon tank my other post about "My 300 Gallon tank") I will know a bit more after I run a 24 hour period, the main thing is I don't have to buy another iPad. I have an ipad2 and my wife has an iPad mini newest model but you know wives and their stuff - "what yours is mine and what's mine is, well, mine too"

I hope this app gets fully implemented, I will be putting in as much feedback as possible, so awesome to be able to run it from your phone. Just go to Kessils Facebook page and go to the link about beta testing. Very happy so far. Will see how it goes.

Now, what I will criticize is this, why do they only allow 10 program points, should allow at least one an hour of day light personally I think 14-18 would be ideal. I like the idea of having what appears to be a bit of a reddish early morning sun rise in the water then turning sky blue then into the darker blues to violets in and why can't we program the entire 24 cycle with a weekly schedule that way you could have a storm or two a week vs same everyday. I would like a night storm once in a while that would be cool. When it's in lunar mode you can't do anything. Kinda odd. Or a random cloud/storm mode that they just automatically pop up just like in real life. I think the rainbow and aura modes are useless (who or why would anyone even use that completely unnatural mode - just my opinion) I'm guessing it's only going to get better. Cheers happy reefing!


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Unread 04/27/2016, 08:54 AM   #34
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Both are great lights and great companies. What are you planning on growing?

Check out this LED comparison tool - https://www.saltwateraquarium.com/ne...mparison-tool/

If these are correct and measured as a single Hydra 52 HD vs A Kessil fixture, then two Hydra 52's should crush the AP700 in a few areas.

I just saw this and I wondered why it's wayyy off from my tests and I realized it's from AI.

The PAR numbers I get are more in line with what BRS saw in their tests. https://youtu.be/V7XLgLiA0PM?t=1285


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Unread 04/27/2016, 09:20 AM   #35
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AP700 magnetic lens shown at RAP. 2 different diffusions, works to soften the point source and reduces shadowing.


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Unread 09/22/2016, 11:30 PM   #36
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Programming issues

Still seems the AP700 doesn't want to follow the program I put in through the iPhone app. I have also emailed Kessil and they haven't responded, been over a week. What am I going to do with $2000 in lights that don't work. Any help? Very Frustrated. I am hoping I have done something wrong and someone on here can help out. Cheers.


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Unread 09/22/2016, 11:37 PM   #37
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Still seems the AP700 doesn't want to follow the program I put in through the iPhone app. I have also emailed Kessil and they haven't responded, been over a week. What am I going to do with $2000 in lights that don't work. Any help? Very Frustrated. I am hoping I have done something wrong and someone on here can help out. Cheers.
I assume you have both lights in the same group?


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Unread 09/22/2016, 11:44 PM   #38
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Still seems the AP700 doesn't want to follow the program I put in through the iPhone app. I have also emailed Kessil and they haven't responded, been over a week. What am I going to do with $2000 in lights that don't work. Any help? Very Frustrated. I am hoping I have done something wrong and someone on here can help out. Cheers.


Are you connecting directly to the lights?

Have you created a new separate program from the included ones?

Try resetting and reconnecting each light. I've never had any problems. Hope you get it worked out.


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Unread 09/23/2016, 12:10 AM   #39
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When you add the lights to the app they don't default to a group. You have to put them in one. Once they are in a group they will sync with each other.


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Unread 09/23/2016, 08:29 AM   #40
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K. Just to clarify. The lights are in the group, all connected, no worries there. I connect directly to the lights. I can do everything to them, storms, clouds, etc. There is a slight delay from one light to the other but other than that it's fine. The problem is once I have selected my program that I made the lights turn on to the time of day that it is at and never change.


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Unread 09/24/2016, 10:04 PM   #41
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K. Just to clarify. The lights are in the group, all connected, no worries there. I connect directly to the lights. I can do everything to them, storms, clouds, etc. There is a slight delay from one light to the other but other than that it's fine. The problem is once I have selected my program that I made the lights turn on to the time of day that it is at and never change.


That's weird, and you have contacted Kessil? I find they respond quickly.


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Unread 09/25/2016, 11:53 PM   #42
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Nothing from them at all. Sent 2 emails.


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Unread 09/26/2016, 03:59 AM   #43
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Nothing from them at all. Sent 2 emails.


Who did you email?

Try this guy. He helped me with the iPhone beta.

fchan@kessil.com

Let me know how it turns out.


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Unread 09/26/2016, 10:57 AM   #44
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AI's are the way to go!


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Unread 09/26/2016, 11:55 AM   #45
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AI's are the way to go!


Do they still put out like a rave?


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Unread 09/26/2016, 07:34 PM   #46
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AI's are the way to go!


Having had Hydra 52s n Primes, I'm going to disagree.


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Unread 09/27/2016, 01:14 AM   #47
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Who did you email?

Try this guy. He helped me with the iPhone beta.

fchan@kessil.com

Let me know how it turns out.


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Yeah he was the guy I spoke with during the Beta. I will try him again. Thanks man.


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Unread 10/06/2016, 10:54 PM   #48
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There is also a new desktop beta that has many improvements, for PC or MAC. Email Kessil to request it.


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