Seeking gen 1 Radion experienced input

Fraggedmind · 10/04/2016, 07:00 PM

I have 2 gen 1 XR30W units over my 56 gallon tank. Dude said he didn't run them very long for what that's worth. Anyway.... I plan to do the gen 3 upgrades through Ecotech in about 2 months when funds will allow but in the meantime I need to get these up to snuff.

My issue is that I have been advised by a source I have trusted for years to hike these up to 100% on all channels and use the acclimation mode too spread it over 4 weeks. My concern is bleaching corals and algae bloom, but he knows the lights better and also has a significantly bigger tank.

My tank is 36 inches long, 18 inches front to back, and 20 inches deep. Radions are 8 inches from the surface. Closest coral is about 6 inches from the surface.

What are your thoughts?

I also have 2 AI Primes that I am considering running as supplements. I was running these up until I got the radions at 80% with a 250w MH that ran for four hours.

I have a lot of ZOA's, hammer, torch, bubble tips, Yuma's, and a Stylo which is actually only 4 inches from the surface.

Help

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mfinn · 10/04/2016, 07:44 PM

I would NOT run them up to 100%. Even with a much longer acclimation period.

There is a thread in the Ecotech that is a poll that Radion users have responded to that shows how high they have their Radions running at.
A small percentage do have them at 100% ( I would suspect they are sps dominate tanks).
The majority is much lower. I haven't looked at that thread in a while, but from what I remember, the majority is closer to 65%-70%.

In my mixed lps/softy tank I am at 65%, which is 25" deep.
I had it up to 70% for a few months and I noticed some of my lps were bleaching a little.

mfinn · 10/04/2016, 08:14 PM

And for what it's worth, 2 xr30's is more than enough for your tank.

Fraggedmind · 10/04/2016, 09:49 PM

Gen 1's?

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mfinn · 10/05/2016, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fraggedmind

Gen 1's?

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Mine are gen 3 upgrades from gen 1's

Pittsburgh · 10/05/2016, 08:33 AM

There is a calculator that would give you a pretty good idea of PAR at various depths and the spread for your gen1

http://www.aquaticlog.com/radion

According to the calculator, at the depth of 8'' I would keep it at around 80% for SPS dominated. This would give you a nice uniform spread of well under 300 PAR with a bit of a hot spot in the center at slightly over 300 PAR.

I would certainly run the acclimation cycle, probably around 6 weeks.

Fraggedmind · 10/05/2016, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pittsburgh

There is a calculator that would give you a pretty good idea of PAR at various depths and the spread for your gen1

http://www.aquaticlog.com/radion

According to the calculator, at the depth of 8'' I would keep it at around 80% for SPS dominated. This would give you a nice uniform spread of well under 300 PAR with a bit of a hot spot in the center at slightly over 300 PAR.

I would certainly run the acclimation cycle, probably around 6 weeks.

Thank you. I think I am going to bite the bullet on the upgrades a bit sooner. Apparently the gen 3 is significantly better than gen 1

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Fraggedmind · 10/06/2016, 09:57 PM

Added both primes back to the mix with only cool blue, royal blue, and UV to supplement radions till I can get them upgraded.

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alton · 10/07/2016, 05:51 AM

We have a local reefer in our club and he has run one gen 1 on a 90g 36x24x25 for four years and it is currently set at 70%. You having two is more than enough.

10/04/2016, 07:00 PM	#1
Fraggedmind Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 102	Seeking gen 1 Radion experienced input I have 2 gen 1 XR30W units over my 56 gallon tank. Dude said he didn't run them very long for what that's worth. Anyway.... I plan to do the gen 3 upgrades through Ecotech in about 2 months when funds will allow but in the meantime I need to get these up to snuff. My issue is that I have been advised by a source I have trusted for years to hike these up to 100% on all channels and use the acclimation mode too spread it over 4 weeks. My concern is bleaching corals and algae bloom, but he knows the lights better and also has a significantly bigger tank. My tank is 36 inches long, 18 inches front to back, and 20 inches deep. Radions are 8 inches from the surface. Closest coral is about 6 inches from the surface. What are your thoughts? I also have 2 AI Primes that I am considering running as supplements. I was running these up until I got the radions at 80% with a 250w MH that ran for four hours. I have a lot of ZOA's, hammer, torch, bubble tips, Yuma's, and a Stylo which is actually only 4 inches from the surface. Help Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

10/04/2016, 07:44 PM	#2
mfinn Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Olympia. WA. Posts: 8,648	I would NOT run them up to 100%. Even with a much longer acclimation period. There is a thread in the Ecotech that is a poll that Radion users have responded to that shows how high they have their Radions running at. A small percentage do have them at 100% ( I would suspect they are sps dominate tanks). The majority is much lower. I haven't looked at that thread in a while, but from what I remember, the majority is closer to 65%-70%. In my mixed lps/softy tank I am at 65%, which is 25" deep. I had it up to 70% for a few months and I noticed some of my lps were bleaching a little. __________________ 240 gallon soft coral tank 50 gallon lps tank

10/04/2016, 08:14 PM	#3
mfinn Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Olympia. WA. Posts: 8,648	And for what it's worth, 2 xr30's is more than enough for your tank. __________________ 240 gallon soft coral tank 50 gallon lps tank

10/05/2016, 08:33 AM	#6
Pittsburgh Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 577	There is a calculator that would give you a pretty good idea of PAR at various depths and the spread for your gen1 http://www.aquaticlog.com/radion According to the calculator, at the depth of 8'' I would keep it at around 80% for SPS dominated. This would give you a nice uniform spread of well under 300 PAR with a bit of a hot spot in the center at slightly over 300 PAR. I would certainly run the acclimation cycle, probably around 6 weeks. __________________ Pittsburgh Current Tank Info: 95g Oceanic SPS reef. 30g sump, Sicce Syncra Silent 4.0 return, Reef Octopus 2000SSS skimmer, fuge with chaeto, BRS Carbon reactor, MR1 GFO reactor, BRS 2part dosing, Tunze ATO, 2x Tunze 6095 powerheads on a Tunze 7095, Gyre 130, 2xRadions xr30w pro.

10/04/2016, 09:49 PM	#4
Fraggedmind Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 102	Gen 1's? Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

10/06/2016, 09:57 PM	#8
Fraggedmind Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 102	Added both primes back to the mix with only cool blue, royal blue, and UV to supplement radions till I can get them upgraded. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

10/07/2016, 05:51 AM	#9
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	We have a local reefer in our club and he has run one gen 1 on a 90g 36x24x25 for four years and it is currently set at 70%. You having two is more than enough.