Palytoxin inhalation from warm water?

JamesTheSecond · 01/04/2017, 05:08 PM

Hello everyone.

I'm sorry if this is a repeat post.
I recently began working for a maintenance company cleaning local fish tanks. One of my clients has a very large colony of palys in the center of his tank. They just moved out, so the tank hasn't been maintenance outside of my stops.

I was there about an hour and a half ago scrubbing the walls and completing a water change.

The water was noticeably warm, probably 84°, and the palys seemed stressed due to some aphasia adjacent to them. The room was significantly more humid than the rest of the house.

I don't have any difficulty breathing or anything, no running nose, but I do feel very anxious. My heart is beating quickly, I feel very derealized, and a little hazy.

I took a beta blocker to see how that helps.

My question is, couldn't be related to the palys? I don't have any noticeable cuts on my hands, either. No stinging from putting my hands in the tank.

kegogut · 01/04/2017, 08:55 PM

I would say drink two beers and check back in the morning. lolz

deputydog95 · 01/04/2017, 10:44 PM

He's probably dead by now :-)

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Sk8r · 01/05/2017, 11:44 AM

Get to a hospital er with a printout of the thread on palytoxin, which you will find in the New To The Hobby forum.

SantaMonica · 01/06/2017, 07:14 PM

I think you actually need to cut or break a paly, in order for the toxin to come out. I don't think just stressing will do it.

Could be wrong.

RV7AFlyer · 01/09/2017, 08:21 PM

I believe you have to get the toxin in a cut or breath in the steam from boiling a rock with a coral that contains Polytoxins. 84 degree water it way too cool to get the toxins in the air.

deputydog95 · 01/09/2017, 08:28 PM

RIP OP :-)

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xanthurum · 01/09/2017, 08:57 PM

^lol

01/04/2017, 05:08 PM	#1
JamesTheSecond Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 3	Palytoxin inhalation from warm water? Hello everyone. I'm sorry if this is a repeat post. I recently began working for a maintenance company cleaning local fish tanks. One of my clients has a very large colony of palys in the center of his tank. They just moved out, so the tank hasn't been maintenance outside of my stops. I was there about an hour and a half ago scrubbing the walls and completing a water change. The water was noticeably warm, probably 84°, and the palys seemed stressed due to some aphasia adjacent to them. The room was significantly more humid than the rest of the house. I don't have any difficulty breathing or anything, no running nose, but I do feel very anxious. My heart is beating quickly, I feel very derealized, and a little hazy. I took a beta blocker to see how that helps. My question is, couldn't be related to the palys? I don't have any noticeable cuts on my hands, either. No stinging from putting my hands in the tank.

01/04/2017, 08:55 PM	#2
kegogut Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: St.Louis Posts: 5,052	I would say drink two beers and check back in the morning. lolz __________________ Dave. "I have learned all kinds of things from my many mistakes. The one thing I never learn is to stop making them." --Nicomo Cosca. Current Tank Info: 225 mixed w/ 225 sump 550 lbs live rock,3x MarinePure ceramic blocks,Skimz SM201,Geo 618 CR,Vectra L1,DOS automatic water changes,3x 250w MH w/ 4x actinic T5,All ran by Apex thru Fusion.--57 community tank w/ OR T-247,120 nem tank.

01/04/2017, 10:44 PM	#3
deputydog95 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 966	He's probably dead by now :-) Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk __________________ Red Sea Reefer 500 Peninsula, Apex Controller, Apex Wav (2), Apex DOS, Kessil 360WE (3), T5's (4), Kessil H160 Fuge light, RO Regal 150SSS Skimmer, RO DC Return Pump, Red Sea A&B

01/05/2017, 11:44 AM	#4
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Get to a hospital er with a printout of the thread on palytoxin, which you will find in the New To The Hobby forum. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

01/06/2017, 07:14 PM	#5
SantaMonica Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santa Monica, California, USA Posts: 2,511	I think you actually need to cut or break a paly, in order for the toxin to come out. I don't think just stressing will do it. Could be wrong. __________________ Inventor of the easy-to-DIY upflow scrubber, and also the waterfall scrubber that everyone loves to build: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1424843

01/09/2017, 08:21 PM	#6
RV7AFlyer Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Gresham OR Posts: 57	I believe you have to get the toxin in a cut or breath in the steam from boiling a rock with a coral that contains Polytoxins. 84 degree water it way too cool to get the toxins in the air.

01/09/2017, 08:28 PM	#7
deputydog95 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 966	RIP OP :-) Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk __________________ Red Sea Reefer 500 Peninsula, Apex Controller, Apex Wav (2), Apex DOS, Kessil 360WE (3), T5's (4), Kessil H160 Fuge light, RO Regal 150SSS Skimmer, RO DC Return Pump, Red Sea A&B

01/09/2017, 08:57 PM	#8
xanthurum Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Surprise Arizona Posts: 915	^lol __________________ Why is this so addictive. Current Tank Info: You want to know just ask