Ecotech Radion PRO VS. GHL MITRAS (My thoughts and experiences)

[unze]

Radion pro is 170W , mitras 190W.
So hence Mitras cost more.

[Matthias Gross]

Originally Posted by jthao

http://forum.aquariumcomputer.com/sh...OS-X-Mavericks

http://forum.aquariumcomputer.com/sh...Bootcamped-Mac

I wrote out a whole page of "emotionally attached" message, but deleted it and only wrote this as I feel like it wouldn't help the issue regardless and I would only sound like a jerk on the Internet.
So above I linked what you seem to not have a clue about. Let me be clear again: profilux works and gcc works fine with Mac and parallels. The problem is with the Mitras driver being recognized on Mavericks and windows 8 on parallels.
And from those threads, YES ghl has "gave up" on this issue and blamed it on parallels and Mac.
If you have found a way to do it, please share! Actually please let me know the best way to go about getting the Mitras to work on a Mac running Mavericks? I would be willing to try anything. I like your products and I'm even considering buying a pc laptop just so I can use ghl products, that should say a lot. But I just havnt Becuase to me it makes more sense to go with something that works fine on anything computer platform without any hiccups.

I told my software guys to follow up these threads.

Yesterday we found out that Apple seems "not to like" our USB vendor ID, with Microsoft we have no problems at all. Maybe this is causing the problem. We are still investigating and we will post it if we found a solution.

Question: so if I bought the wireless mitras to Profilux 3 card, and since gcc works and I can program Profilux3 on the Mac, would this mean that since I don't have to connect the Mitras at all to the computer since evrything will be from the Profilux3, Will this work then?

in this case the ProfiLux takes full control over the Mitras and you have to adjust the ProfiLux instead of the Mitras

only a few system settings (energyoptions and wireless) can't be set via the ProfiLux, either you do these on the front display (BTW - talking about differences to the Radion - Mitras has a userinterface with 6 capacitive keys and a display) or you can do these few settings on a PC

[FranktheTankTx]

What are the mounting/hanging options with the Mitras? I have a rimless aquarium w/ external overflow & I'm starting to think that the ecotech's RMS mount is going to be the best option for my tank.

I don't want to run a hanging kit all the way to my 12 ft ceiling.

[AQD_ottawa]

The mitras comes with hangers from there multiple amounts of our users for Mitras have made fantastic options custom-ed to their needs.

[FranktheTankTx]

Started a thread in the sponsor forum - Would like to see some pics.

[jthao]

Originally Posted by FranktheTankTx

What are the mounting/hanging options with the Mitras? I have a rimless aquarium w/ external overflow & I'm starting to think that the ecotech's RMS mount is going to be the best option for my tank.

I don't want to run a hanging kit all the way to my 12 ft ceiling.

Both lights use "hanging wire" to hang from points on the units themselves, 2 on the mitras and 4 on the radions. But even the 4 on the radion will come back up to a Y and be 2 lines up. Mitras comes with these hanging hardware, radions don't, it anoth $45, which sucks.
Best way to hang any of these lights to to use a L bracket mounted to your wall behind tank or to the stand of the tank and suspend the lights from that bracket. This way u can adjust how high U want the bracket to mount above your tank. If u have an external overflow right in the middle, u can use 2 L brackets on the sides of the overflow box.

[AQD_ottawa]

Originally Posted by FranktheTankTx

Started a thread in the sponsor forum - Would like to see some pics.

Here is the thread for the Mitras owners club, lots of global users there and I have posted your request also

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...&highlight=ghl

[h0bite]

Hey Ottawa, when a new Mitras will be avalaible ?
Thanks

[AQD_ottawa]

New Mitras? Do you mean the Light Bar
https://aquariumcomputer.com/en-GB/p...er-information

Im just finalising details with GHL on this, should not be long though

[jthao]

Originally Posted by h0bite

Hey Ottawa, when a new Mitras will be avalaible ?
Thanks

I think he's talking about when will a new mitras come out, like a generation 2 mitras.

I'll answer that for him, lol. They won't tell you until it's ready to launch.

[AQD_ottawa]

Oh sorry, no theres absolute no talk of this that I know of, but then the Mitras already is kind of packed to the gunnels not sure where else you could go with it to be honest.

Cheers
Michael

[jthao]

Originally Posted by AQD_ottawa

the Mitras already is kind of packed to the gunnels not sure where else you could go with it to be honest.

Cheers
Michael

If u wanna know, I can tell you haha

[trueblackpercula]

I dont know if this is correct or not, But for some reason I think i remeber that the mitras has one extra led channel that is not used right now when i open up the light composer. is there a way to add a led to the hyper violet puck seeing that it can be removed independatly forme the rest and add an LED that will spike in the 500nm range?

[AQD_ottawa]

No, the only way of adding anything is if GHL develop new pucks. Im not aware of any development currently but GHL are renowned for listening to feedback, just drop them a line.

What I do know is that they are working on the GHL-Bridge for wifi control and also MY GHL, plus of course the immanent release of the Wifi Doser 2 and other very important projects for 2015. Maybe something for Mitras is in there mix also, but I certainly don't know and im the one that does the trade shows

The only thing new for USA is the Mitras Light Bar.

[trueblackpercula]

its ok anyways as I think the light fixture is awsome, the only thing would be a few software upgrades that i have already mentioned

[cdial]

There are several reasons the mitras are far superior in my opinion. The Mitras spread the pucks out better so less shadowing. The Mitras have 72 LED's running at lower amperage vs 42 LED's running at max. The mitra's will last longer! The Mitra's have a better power supply. Power factor on Advanced Aquarist review of the Radion Pro was .54 vs .99 on the Mitras. Hence a low grade PSU and or underguage wiring while driving the LED's hard. You will have higher amperage on the Radions which doesn't affect your power bill but does generate extra heat and is not as efficient. The Mitra's are PWM dimming vs Current dimming so you don't get color shift at different levels of brightness. We don't like color shifts. The Mitras have 4 fans evenly spaced vs one fan on the bottom of the fixture.
The Mitras (6200) basically have a 2-1 ratio of whites to royal blues. Three different color whites that average to 6200K totalling 30 led's and 12 royal Blue. The radions have 1-1 ratio of 8 white 8 blue. So you get more blue and "pop". They both have violet. The extra LED's is the extra $100. I'd much rather have 30 extra LED's and run them at lower amperage to get more life out of the pucks. The bells and whistles will come as both companies compete. But my concern is not to let the bells and whistles cover your eyes to the underlying differences in the fixtures. To me one is really working on the heart of the fixture for reliability and longevity while another is making things with cheaper core parts, ramping up the amperage, and adding some flashy bells and whistles.

[FranktheTankTx]

Where do you find the aluminum rails that people are using to construct hanging rails from their stand stretching over their aquariums?

[cdial]

There are several vendors online for 80/20 t-slot aluminum extrusion. Some on ebay. Just search for that. When building my cnc machine I got most of mine from 8020 inc.

[cdial]

If you want some really nice radion or hydra or diy tank mounts then pm me and I'll tell you a guy that makes them for a very good price and they look very clean!!

[slief]

Originally Posted by Techhnyne

my question is what about the radion do you think makes the fish glow? dont the radion and the mitras all have the same light spectrum? or does radion have a different light that causes glow?

While they both share many of the same nm diodes, I suspect that part of the review would change now if he was using the LX7206's. The new UV channel in the new Mitras LX7's would create that glow which I think is the one difference between the Radions and the LX6200's that he was comparing to. The new Mitras have a UV channel as well as other channels that you can uses to really fine tune the lights to bring out colors in fish and corals that you don't ordinarily see under just the typical blue and white diodes. The also offer a new puck for the LX6200's that have a UV channel which can be retrofitting to the LX6200's that accomplish the same thing.

[biecacka]

Scott, do they have a pre-programmed light schedule like radion as well?


Corey

[theshaman]

You guys asking about mounting the mitras but not wanting to use the hangers can do what I did. I got a verve mounting kit and and about 4 dollars worth of hardware at the hardware store. Mounts perfectly.