Back in, want advice.

Rognin · 11/26/2017, 05:59 PM

So I've let my tank run for the better part of a year and a half with now with minimal maintenence (none was needed really). I have a quarantine tank that I've used to prophylactically (uhh spelling) treat the five (now four) Yellow Chromis I originally put in after the DT's cycle. I quarantined my small CUC, and then some easy soft corals (which I'm having trouble growing but I've got some solutions coming after black friday I think).

I'd like to start adding a couple more inhabitants. but I'm not sure they are made to survive the quarantine. Specifically, two bluespot jaw fish, a goby and pistol and blenny combo. The other fish later down the road will easily survive the quarantine (clowns, firefish, foxface, small tang and more chromis).

How would you go about introducing those fish and would you quarantine them?

Thanks!

SAT · 11/27/2017, 08:27 AM

I assume the jawfish are sold as a bonded pair? If not, they will likely fight. To create a burrow in the DT, I suggest an upside down flower pot with an enlarged drain hole, buried in the sand. That worked for my yelowheads... They would busily remove the sand from the flower pot. Otherwise you need a deep bed of rubble (not fine sand) that they can dig in.

For quarantine, assuming you want to avoid gravel, I suggest creating the illusion of a burrow in the bottom. A false bottom of opaque acrylic with 3/4" holes sitting on top of pieces of PVC pipe should do the trick.

Rognin · 11/27/2017, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SAT

I assume the jawfish are sold as a bonded pair? If not, they will likely fight. To create a burrow in the DT, I suggest an upside down flower pot with an enlarged drain hole, buried in the sand. That worked for my yelowheads... They would busily remove the sand from the flower pot. Otherwise you need a deep bed of rubble (not fine sand) that they can dig in.

For quarantine, assuming you want to avoid gravel, I suggest creating the illusion of a burrow in the bottom. A false bottom of opaque acrylic with 3/4" holes sitting on top of pieces of PVC pipe should do the trick.

I have a 6-7" sand bed. It is a mix of medium and fine sand, I like the upsidedown flower pot idea. Do you use the orage ceramic type or a plastic one?

I am hoping they are sold as a bonded pair or I will have a single fish in the tank. I hate fighting.

As for the underside of the opaque sheet Is there not a problem with the water being stagnant? I have rather large pve fittings that I think I could do something with. I'll take pictures when I get home to see if that can be done.

I still have the goby and blenny that I think aren't particularily made to go through the whole cupramine and prazipro treatment and subsequent observation period of 72 days. Are those fish the ones I take a chance with and dump in the DT or are there tricks to getting them to survive the process?

As for the order, I was thinking the goby blenny first, jawfish second and then the other bigger fish in groups to reduce the time my quarantine is up.

Thanks again!

SAT · 11/27/2017, 03:44 PM

I used an old-fashioned terracotta pot. Those are permeable, which may be a good thing.

I don't think the water under a hole in an acrylic sheet is any more likely to be stale than the water in a natural burrow. However, you should probably try to avoid letting food accumulate there.

The goby and blenny should be able to go through the normal quarantine process as long as they are eating. I would give the shrimp a day or two in observation, separate from fish, and then put him in the DT. Any disease a shrimp carries will probably only affect shrimp.

Sometimes blennies can be aggressive against other species with a similar body type. I suggest adding it last. Gobies and jawfish will most likely reserve any aggression for their own species.

SAT · 11/27/2017, 03:50 PM

BTW, copper may not be your best choice for these fish:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2635979

If you want to preemptively treat for Crypto, I suggest either the tank transfer method or Chloroquine.

Rognin · 11/27/2017, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAT

BTW, copper may not be your best choice for these fish:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2635979

If you want to preemptively treat for Crypto, I suggest either the tank transfer method or Chloroquine.

Chloroquine is supposedly very very hard to find in canada. So I guess I'll go with the 72 day observation and start with the goby/pistol and jawfish combo to start and see how it goes from there.

Rognin · 11/27/2017, 04:42 PM

Thanks for the help!! I'll come back to this thread when I get to the next step in live stock introduction.

SAT · 11/27/2017, 06:26 PM

Good luck!

11/26/2017, 05:59 PM	#1
Rognin Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 387	Back in, want advice. So I've let my tank run for the better part of a year and a half with now with minimal maintenence (none was needed really). I have a quarantine tank that I've used to prophylactically (uhh spelling) treat the five (now four) Yellow Chromis I originally put in after the DT's cycle. I quarantined my small CUC, and then some easy soft corals (which I'm having trouble growing but I've got some solutions coming after black friday I think). I'd like to start adding a couple more inhabitants. but I'm not sure they are made to survive the quarantine. Specifically, two bluespot jaw fish, a goby and pistol and blenny combo. The other fish later down the road will easily survive the quarantine (clowns, firefish, foxface, small tang and more chromis). How would you go about introducing those fish and would you quarantine them? Thanks! __________________ Fish Stock: N/A, starting over Corals: Want SPS, LPS with zoas Current Tank Info: Custom 145 gallon.

11/27/2017, 08:27 AM	#2
SAT Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Berwyn, PA Posts: 4,073 Blog Entries: 1	I assume the jawfish are sold as a bonded pair? If not, they will likely fight. To create a burrow in the DT, I suggest an upside down flower pot with an enlarged drain hole, buried in the sand. That worked for my yelowheads... They would busily remove the sand from the flower pot. Otherwise you need a deep bed of rubble (not fine sand) that they can dig in. For quarantine, assuming you want to avoid gravel, I suggest creating the illusion of a burrow in the bottom. A false bottom of opaque acrylic with 3/4" holes sitting on top of pieces of PVC pipe should do the trick. __________________ Stuart Current Tank Info: 300G Caribbean biotype reef set up in 2003.

11/27/2017, 03:44 PM	#4
SAT Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Berwyn, PA Posts: 4,073 Blog Entries: 1	I used an old-fashioned terracotta pot. Those are permeable, which may be a good thing. I don't think the water under a hole in an acrylic sheet is any more likely to be stale than the water in a natural burrow. However, you should probably try to avoid letting food accumulate there. The goby and blenny should be able to go through the normal quarantine process as long as they are eating. I would give the shrimp a day or two in observation, separate from fish, and then put him in the DT. Any disease a shrimp carries will probably only affect shrimp. Sometimes blennies can be aggressive against other species with a similar body type. I suggest adding it last. Gobies and jawfish will most likely reserve any aggression for their own species. __________________ Stuart Current Tank Info: 300G Caribbean biotype reef set up in 2003.

11/27/2017, 03:50 PM	#5
SAT Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Berwyn, PA Posts: 4,073 Blog Entries: 1	BTW, copper may not be your best choice for these fish: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2635979 If you want to preemptively treat for Crypto, I suggest either the tank transfer method or Chloroquine. __________________ Stuart Current Tank Info: 300G Caribbean biotype reef set up in 2003.

11/27/2017, 04:42 PM	#7
Rognin Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 387	Thanks for the help!! I'll come back to this thread when I get to the next step in live stock introduction. __________________ Fish Stock: N/A, starting over Corals: Want SPS, LPS with zoas Current Tank Info: Custom 145 gallon.

11/27/2017, 06:26 PM	#8
SAT Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Berwyn, PA Posts: 4,073 Blog Entries: 1	Good luck! __________________ Stuart Current Tank Info: 300G Caribbean biotype reef set up in 2003.