A pair of bangaii cardinals?

Empty Bottles · 02/06/2018, 01:21 PM

If I get a pair is it pretty much guaranteed that they will reproduce? I want a pair, but not any extras or the experience of my wife and kids watching them come out of his mouth just to get chopped up in a powerhead, or whatever happens to them.

Drix · 02/06/2018, 01:24 PM

Just to let you know, they apparently chirp. The sound is noticeable from outside the tank.

Jekerry · 02/06/2018, 01:42 PM

I have one and some pajamas to keep her company. That was what was recommended to me. I guess they will often fight with their own kind but like other cardinals. She kinda rules the roost and does chirp.

Empty Bottles · 02/06/2018, 02:37 PM

But if I get a pair I'll have to deal with the offspring?

Tripod1404 · 02/06/2018, 03:07 PM

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But if I get a pair I'll have to deal with the offspring?

Even if you get offspring, they wont be buzzing around the tank getting sucked into the power heads. They are released by the presets developed enough to swim and hide among the rocks (if you have long spine urchin, they will hide among its spines, or even anemones).

They will most likely be hunted down by other fish tough, so it is highly unlikely any will reach adulthood. If you have a sump, sometimes fry can end up there and can develop. But even this is extremely rare.

PeteStarks · 02/06/2018, 03:51 PM

You would have to monior them and have a special breeding tank setup for them as well. Don't forget you would have to catch or trap them for transportation to said tank... Oh! The fry will need special food too. Definitely a lot of planning and work to pull it off.

Empty Bottles · 02/06/2018, 03:57 PM

Ok, cool. So is it cruel not to nurture they fry, or is it just producing live food for everything else?

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Member No. 1 · 02/06/2018, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tripod1404

Even if you get offspring, they wont be buzzing around the tank getting sucked into the power heads. They are released by the presets developed enough to swim and hide among the rocks (if you have long spine urchin, they will hide among its spines, or even anemones).

They will most likely be hunted down by other fish tough, so it is highly unlikely any will reach adulthood. If you have a sump, sometimes fry can end up there and can develop. But even this is extremely rare.

Or one of these!

PeteStarks · 02/06/2018, 08:14 PM

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Ok, cool. So is it cruel not to nurture they fry, or is it just producing live food for everything else?

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Nailed it! Basically the free food scenario is what happens when most of our critters spawn. I assume it happens much more often than we even notice, more so with inverts like snails.

on the spot · 02/06/2018, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Empty Bottles

...So is it cruel not to nurture they fry, or is it just producing live food for everything else?..

most fry don't survive "out there". what's that line? momentary specks in an indifferent universe? something like that.

bonnie.klassen1 · 02/06/2018, 09:15 PM

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Or one of these!

This is great! Where can I get one lol

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Member No. 1 · 02/07/2018, 04:07 AM

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This is great! Where can I get one lol

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It's DIY!

Ingredients:
1. JB Weld - Same stuff used to mount frags
https://www.jbweld.com/collections/e...ld-epoxy-putty
2. Black Zip Ties various sizes/lengths
3. Artistic aptitude

Cut the square end off the zip ties and make them various lengths. I used both small for the shorter spines and medium size for the longer/thicker spines.
Mix up a golf ball size of epoxy, rolling in your hand like making a meat ball.
Then flatten the bottom and form a dome on a non-stick surface. The white piece you see under my creation is a piece of HDPE (White cutting board).
Stick the zip ties in randomly with the pointed end out to resemble an urchin.
Let harden ~30 minutes or so.
I did it so I'm sure anyone can!
If you need a better picture, let me know.

Empty Bottles · 02/07/2018, 06:58 AM

That is a cool apparatus. Very innovative. I appreciate the feedback. There’s a pair on DD I was looking at, but I’m going to wait until I get further stocked up before I get a pair of them.

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Drix · 02/08/2018, 12:21 AM

Wow, according to Wikipedia these guys are just about an endangered species? They haven't even been around that long.

02/06/2018, 01:21 PM	#1
Empty Bottles Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 291	A pair of bangaii cardinals? If I get a pair is it pretty much guaranteed that they will reproduce? I want a pair, but not any extras or the experience of my wife and kids watching them come out of his mouth just to get chopped up in a powerhead, or whatever happens to them. __________________ 60" 100 gallon Mixed Reef Currently under reconstruction. Current Tank Info: 100G Reef

02/06/2018, 02:37 PM	#4
Empty Bottles Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 291	But if I get a pair I'll have to deal with the offspring? __________________ 60" 100 gallon Mixed Reef Currently under reconstruction. Current Tank Info: 100G Reef

02/06/2018, 03:57 PM	#7
Empty Bottles Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 291	Ok, cool. So is it cruel not to nurture they fry, or is it just producing live food for everything else? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 60" 100 gallon Mixed Reef Currently under reconstruction. Current Tank Info: 100G Reef

02/07/2018, 06:58 AM	#13
Empty Bottles Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 291	That is a cool apparatus. Very innovative. I appreciate the feedback. There’s a pair on DD I was looking at, but I’m going to wait until I get further stocked up before I get a pair of them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 60" 100 gallon Mixed Reef Currently under reconstruction. Current Tank Info: 100G Reef

02/06/2018, 01:24 PM	#2
Drix Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 590	Just to let you know, they apparently chirp. The sound is noticeable from outside the tank.

02/06/2018, 01:42 PM	#3
Jekerry Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Rochester NY Posts: 205	I have one and some pajamas to keep her company. That was what was recommended to me. I guess they will often fight with their own kind but like other cardinals. She kinda rules the roost and does chirp.

02/06/2018, 03:51 PM	#6
PeteStarks Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 53	You would have to monior them and have a special breeding tank setup for them as well. Don't forget you would have to catch or trap them for transportation to said tank... Oh! The fry will need special food too. Definitely a lot of planning and work to pull it off.

02/08/2018, 12:21 AM	#14
Drix Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 590	Wow, according to Wikipedia these guys are just about an endangered species? They haven't even been around that long.