clean up crew

Cluanar · 04/02/2018, 02:29 PM

I have a 90 gal populated 21x48x18 in which i recently acquired. After setting it up i notice in a few days a brown dusting on glass.

I swapped out the crushed coral bed for fiji sand, did a 20% water change.

I only checked nitrates and nitrites. Nitrites 0 before and after nitrates 60 before 20 after.

What I think i lack now is a good clean up crew.

I have 2 clowns
regal tang
yellow tang
6 line wrasse
fire shrimp
large brittle star
5-10 snails
5-10 crabs

Do you think the following is a good combo for a sps lps and some fish reef.

1 x Cyano, Hair, Diatoms Beware-Saltwater Clean Up Crew - Ships FREE

1 Lettuce Nudibranch
2 Bumble Bee Snails
30 Cerith Snails
10 XLG Cerith Snails
10 Turbo Snails
10 Blue Leg Hermit Crabs
10 Red Leg Crabs
20 Nassarius Snails

Its $95 for the combo.

Set up: 1 vortech 40mpw ( another on its way )
4 puck AI vega
SWC skimmer in a proflex sump model #4 with 3 socks
I am about to move the skimmer to return chamber ( i have ATO ) and add BB Chaeto refug with some live rock

Thanks

Cluanar · 04/02/2018, 10:36 PM

no opinions?

Subsea · 04/03/2018, 04:55 AM

Hermit crabs don’t play well and eventually hermit crabs eat snails.

IMO, the skimmer in unnecessary. As a proponent of natural systems, I see skimmers and filter socks as detriments in a refugium.

Cluanar · 04/03/2018, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subsea

Hermit crabs don’t play well and eventually hermit crabs eat snails.

IMO, the skimmer in unnecessary. As a proponent of natural systems, I see skimmers and filter socks as detriments in a refugium.

Do they eat the snails for the shell use?

My goal is minimum maintenance. I was hoping using a bb refugium with chaeto and a skimmer can help accomplish that. I agree with the socks, I am tempted to remove them altogether. I have to change them every 2-3 days.

scooter31707 · 04/03/2018, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subsea

Hermit crabs don’t play well and eventually hermit crabs eat snails.

IMO, the skimmer in unnecessary. As a proponent of natural systems, I see skimmers and filter socks as detriments in a refugium.

For this reason, I only have snails in my tank.

Uncle99 · 04/03/2018, 11:47 AM

Great to hear....people with just snails.
I fell for this hermit trick years ago and had to,replenished every 4-6 months.
Now that I Banned hermits, 18 months and not one snail loss. Funny, not one fish loss, not one coral death....hum??? Wow, this way better, I can pull the small amount of algae by hand....

04/02/2018, 02:29 PM	#1
Cluanar Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 54	clean up crew I have a 90 gal populated 21x48x18 in which i recently acquired. After setting it up i notice in a few days a brown dusting on glass. I swapped out the crushed coral bed for fiji sand, did a 20% water change. I only checked nitrates and nitrites. Nitrites 0 before and after nitrates 60 before 20 after. What I think i lack now is a good clean up crew. I have 2 clowns regal tang yellow tang 6 line wrasse fire shrimp large brittle star 5-10 snails 5-10 crabs Do you think the following is a good combo for a sps lps and some fish reef. 1 x Cyano, Hair, Diatoms Beware-Saltwater Clean Up Crew - Ships FREE 1 Lettuce Nudibranch 2 Bumble Bee Snails 30 Cerith Snails 10 XLG Cerith Snails 10 Turbo Snails 10 Blue Leg Hermit Crabs 10 Red Leg Crabs 20 Nassarius Snails Its $95 for the combo. Set up: 1 vortech 40mpw ( another on its way ) 4 puck AI vega SWC skimmer in a proflex sump model #4 with 3 socks I am about to move the skimmer to return chamber ( i have ATO ) and add BB Chaeto refug with some live rock Thanks

04/03/2018, 04:55 AM	#3
Subsea Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 1,882	Hermit crabs don’t play well and eventually hermit crabs eat snails. IMO, the skimmer in unnecessary. As a proponent of natural systems, I see skimmers and filter socks as detriments in a refugium. __________________ Laissez les bons temps rouler, Patrick Castille Current Tank Info: 10,000G. Greenhouse Macro Growout

04/02/2018, 10:36 PM	#2
Cluanar Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 54	no opinions?

04/03/2018, 11:47 AM	#6
Uncle99 Crab Free Zone Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,906	Great to hear....people with just snails. I fell for this hermit trick years ago and had to,replenished every 4-6 months. Now that I Banned hermits, 18 months and not one snail loss. Funny, not one fish loss, not one coral death....hum??? Wow, this way better, I can pull the small amount of algae by hand....