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Unread 04/06/2014, 11:02 AM   #51
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Oh! When a system says that it is 2:1 that is really only referring to the length of the flow restrictor, and which the ratio of waste to product. Our systems can run 2:1 with the appropriate features in certain areas. Even if I could run 2:1 in an area I wouldn't. The more water you waste typically means the longer your filters last. Unfortunately this is not good for the water supply, but hey they are just recycling all of our water anyways. You will still need all the same features. The cost in this system has very little to do with the waste to product ratio, and more to do with the features on the system. The 2:1 MaxCap and CSPDI both have higher rejecting membranes, high capacity DI, Flush valve kit to preserve your membrane, ASO, and a float valve.

Also out here in AZ, we can use our waste water for some of the indigenous plants. The one that I know that will take the water is oleander bush. You couldn't try to kill those things if you wanted to with anything short of dynamite.

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Unread 04/06/2014, 12:30 PM   #52
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What exactly is different about the waste water? I thought it would be fine for all plants but clearly from your post it's not.


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Unread 04/06/2014, 12:42 PM   #53
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In a 3 waste to 1 good system, the waste water contains the pollutants from the good water, so the waste water is 33% "worse" than the tap water. On the plus side, the waste water has no dirt or chlorine in it.

In Arizona, if the tap water is 750 TDS, then the waste water will be 1000 TDS.

In Colorado, if the tap water is 100, then the waste water is only 133.

Different plants have different tolerances.

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Unread 04/06/2014, 03:05 PM   #54
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In Arizona, if the tap water is 750 TDS, then the waste water will be 1000 TDS.
When I have tested my waste water in the past that is about what it was


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Unread 04/07/2014, 08:33 PM   #55
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I would still go with a spectrapure unit. They make the best products and media. I have had the maxcap 90 for years. I use it for both RO and RODI. For the ro I just get it from before the di with a t valve and fill up gallon jugs as needed.
You can always upgrade the unit slowly down the line.... just like are tanks I started out with the basic maxcap 90. Now I have added a booster pump and an extra membrane and a manual flush kit now my unit does 240GPD! and has a 2:1 to 3:1 ratio depending on the time of year. The faster you can make water is really much nicer expecially if you just want to fill up a gallon jug and it only takes minutes. The filters last a long time now I have to change my first di about every 3 months.


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That much is decided upon...it's just a matter of which SpectraPure unit.


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Unread 04/07/2014, 09:40 PM   #57
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Well I guess I can't complain then. My TDS in in Phoenix is averaging about 403. Into my DI is still 0 to 1, and out has never been anything but 0... Sadly, haven't tried catching my waste water yet, or figuring out how to hold it once I figure out how to catch it...


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Unread 04/07/2014, 09:56 PM   #58
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Then I would say get a unit with 2 di filters. I run the maxcap di and then the silica buster. When my first di hits 1 I still get a 0tds it gives a nice cushion..... and I still know im getting perfect water.


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@ Big John. My TDS hits close to 1000 in the summer here in maricopa lol
Anf for my waste water I have a long peice of tubing I can hook up and I just run it outside to a tree or something when I make water.


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Unread 05/21/2018, 11:47 AM   #60
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I live in Mesa. These figures are from my Jan 2014 bill.

Total water charges including sewer,fees and taxes: $58.02
Total billed gallons: 9000
Cost per gallon of billed water: 0.64 cents per gallon.
Assuming a 4:1 ratio and 100% waste,my cost per RO/DI gallon in Mesa is 3.2 cents. Most LFS charge 10-30 times that for RO/DI,
The value is what you make of it in time,travel, and extra effort.

I paid about $150.00 for a BRS 4-stage system last October.
If you use the low end of 33 cents per gallon for purchased RO/DI, the unit payback point is at 454 gallons.

I use about 25 gallons per week for all our tanks.
If you ignore the approximately 300 gallons for initial setup and cycling of my 110g DT + 30g sump, it will have paid for itself in less than 5 months.
If you count the setup water, it's already paid for itself and my tank has only been cycled for 2 months!

My back already thanks me!
Nice! I am purchasing mine next week.. woohooo no more lugging around jugs all over town


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Nice! I am purchasing mine next week.. woohooo no more lugging around jugs all over town
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