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Unread 08/04/2018, 05:21 PM   #1
crabbydan
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Getting ready to plumb a new tank and new sump. Tank is custom size 5 feet x 2 feet and 22 inches tall. Stand is a powder coated steel stand about 37 inches tall. Yes looking forward to less crawling under a tank soon. So I cut some plain white pvc to mock my plumbing. First 3 pictures are 3 drain lines with 3 45 degree angles. Clean straight forward. 2nd set of photos is 2 45 degree angles but it looks a little wonky not as straight/clean. Also the third line does cross over the fuge in the sump but shouldn’t get in the way of lights or anything else I throw down there.



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Unread 08/04/2018, 05:23 PM   #2
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Getting ready to plumb a new tank and new sump. Tank is custom size 5 feet x 2 feet and 22 inches tall. Stand is a powder coated steel stand about 37 inches tall. Yes looking forward to less crawling under a tank soon. So I cut some plain white pvc to mock my plumbing. First 3 pictures are 3 drain lines with 3 45 degree angles. Clean straight forward. 2nd set of photos is 2 45 degree angles but it looks a little wonky not as straight/clean. Also the third line does cross over the fuge in the sump but shouldn’t get in the way of lights or anything else I throw down there.



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Sorry had trouble uploading multiple pics here is the rest.




The paint stirrer is where this design goes over the sump fuge.



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I would try to avoid the 90's if at all possible. IMHO, 45's are a much better choice


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Unread 08/04/2018, 08:19 PM   #4
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Brace your pips to the back of the stand. Don't let the overflow box or the sump support the weight or vibes.


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Unread 08/05/2018, 05:31 AM   #5
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I would pick the first setup as it keeps more of your sump easily accessible and is less likely to interfere with potential equipment. I don't think I'd worry too much about the 90s on drain lines, although I would try to avoid them on return lines.

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Unread 08/06/2018, 08:33 PM   #6
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You are going to want a gate valve on the primary full siphon drain line near the bottom of the drain line just before it goes into the sump.


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Unread 08/09/2018, 01:04 PM   #7
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You are going to want a gate valve on the primary full siphon drain line near the bottom of the drain line just before it goes into the sump.

I agree I am just determining direction right now. Straight back angle over to ghost overflow or straight down and cross the sump to the sump intake lines.

In addition to the gate valve I am debating on plumbing a tee and valve on the emergency drain to a temp filter sock ion case I want to run a sock in the future. I am also lining up my return lines and manifold lines to avoid these drain lines.

Good advice thanks!


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Unread 08/10/2018, 03:19 PM   #8
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I would try to avoid the 90's if at all possible. IMHO, 45's are a much better choice
I agree, u can plumb those drains without using a single 90. U can do it with only using 3-45’s in each line. It seems u are really trying to keep the pipes out of the way as most as possible, which in that case u would end up having to use 4-45’s on each line. U wouldn’t have any horizontal sections in the pipe. That is still better then using 2-90’s & 1 or 2 45’s & running the pipe horizontaly


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Unread 08/11/2018, 08:21 AM   #9
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I'd go for looks,over functionality in this case if your stand is going to be open. There isn't an appreciable difference.

Watch "BRStv Investigates: Which reduces more flow, 45 or 90 degree elbows?" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/h-PG4a0rU60


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Unread 08/15/2018, 09:07 PM   #10
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Thanks die the video very helpfully


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