Ich treatment

[gareth.hubbarde]

Originally Posted by j.falk

When I see cloudy eyes on fish, the first thing I always do is a water change to clean up the water. You might want to check your parameters and see if you have something seriously off...

Did yesterday, they were perfect. Odd.

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[monkeysee1]

Hi again -
When I see a cloudy eye like THAT, I'm suspecting FLUKES, NOT ICH!!
ICH doesn't typically exhibit cloudy eyes as one of its symptoms...
You can treat IN THE TANK YOU HAVE with Prazi Pro! You can get that at your Local Fish Store - relatively inexpensive!!
Hope this helps.

[j.falk]

Quoted from a sticky over on Reef Sanctuary:

One Cloudy Eye

The single cloudy eye can be due to a (A) bacterial infection (highest probability), an (B) injury (next likely cause), a (C) viral infection (least likely), or the onset of (C) another disease (likelihood mixed in there -- somewhere).

Just because you have other fishes that don't have one or more cloudy eyes, DO NOT draw any conclusions from this. Fish are suseptible to bacterial, viral, and disease at different 'levels' of resistance. So, just because the fish has one cloudy eye, and there are more than one fish in the system and the others don't have a cloudy eye(s), doesn't mean it HAS to be an injury.

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(A) If it's a mild infection with just one cloudy eye, you need to do two things:
(1) Improve the fish's diet. Just because the fish is eating a lot of food doesn't mean it's getting the right nutrition. If you don't know what the fish should be eating, now is the time to do the research. Add vitamin and fat supplements to the the fish's food (see above links).

(2) IN ADDITION TO THE ABOVE, you need to look over your system and reduce the number of bacteria in the water. Check your skimmer. Use carbon filters to filter out what the skimmer can't remove. Are these two things being maintained properly? Remove uneaten food, dead things, and detritus from wherever it gathers in your system. Remember to clean out all filters that collect solids, and maintain them properly. Review your water change and maintenance activities. They may not be sufficient or being done properly. Clean out filters that catch solids. Maintain them. Watch water quality.

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(B) If it's an injury, the cloudy eye may not be uniformly cloudy. It may have a scratch/damage on or near the eye somewhere. You may not be able to see the scratch/damage easily. Treat this like the fish has a mild bacterial infection (see above and follow BOTH (1) and (2)). The fish should heal it on its own.

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(C) It maybe the onset of another disease. Many parasites and diseases have the cloudy eye symptom. Treat the fish as if it had a bacterial infection (see above), but be on the lookout for any other disease or parasitic infection signs. If it's viral, there is nothing more to be done other than the same as for a bacterial infection.

[gareth.hubbarde]

So water parameters this afternoon

Kh 8.71
Amonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 10ppm
Phosphate 0.1
Saliinty 1.024

Will get some tremazol from amazon
Have started on the medicated food that apparently treats flukes. They are all eating it, except my meat eating hawkfish, never seen it sniff at a flake. Will update. Thanks all for the information though huge help.

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[monkeysee1]

Good!
I would supplement THAT fluke treatment with Prazi-Pro - THAT will kill ALL of them in your tank, without harming your corals.
KEEP US posted!!

[Uncle99]

Originally Posted by gareth.hubbarde

Do I need to keep qt running continuously? Or is it something that can be run only when needed, for instance new fish before they go in main tank? When setting up qt (I'm going to use my old 24g tank) no substrate, no rock is that right? Seems a bit cruel to a new fish to have nowhere to hide. In main dt with no fish in it I would still need to feed a bit plus have lights on for the corals yes? Sorry for the questions.

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The QT only needs to run when you need it.
I have 20g glass, small heater, an old aqua clear sponge filter and an old desk lamp.
You need nothing but one short PVC plastic pipe for hiding for each fish.
I never use any rock as it just traps crap, and would need months to cycle to a point where the small water in a QT could be a good filter
I never cycle my QT, takes way to long, this is a hospital tank
I simply change out 10% water each day and vacum up the bottom.

I understand the money issue. When your ready, make it cheap!

Yes for the DT, all remains normal except feeding, with no fish, keep it small.
If you maintain Nitrate 2-10ppm and phosphate 0.03-0.1, your fine.

Once your DT does 72 days, nothing ever goes in without QT, and this will avoid a ton of work. I personally don’t QT corals but I do dip them for 10-15 minutes, brush them, inspect them. I do QT each and ever fish with exception to a Mandarin, which has a POD requirement, and would not make it through QT

With the lack of a QT, all you can do is feed well high protein foods.
Garlic is a myth, it does nothing but perhaps make the food taste better.

Good luck

[gareth.hubbarde]

Added fluke solve today which is concentrated prazi. Skimmer went nuts so turned air down as much as I can to prevent it going all over the floor (hang on skimmer). Will follow the instructions and leave for 3 weeks before repeating the dose. Not sure if I do water changes or not. Hopefully this will work.

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[gareth.hubbarde]

24 hours since adding prazi, Foxface looks like it's been in a war, lost my carpenter wrasse, can't find blenny. Hawkfish seems immune as does purple firefish, they are healthy. All inverts, sexy shrimps, boxer shrimp, cleaner shrimp and snails are all well as are all softie corals. Be coming out of this with just a couple of fish left Iin my tank. All future fish will be quartined.

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[j.falk]

Nothing like learning a lesson the hard way, eh?

[j.falk]

I've made this mistake myself more than I'd like to admit...always best to quarantine fish before adding them to a display tank.