ARO VHO ballast output stinks

Pacman100 · 01/20/2006, 10:12 PM

I've got an Ice Cap 430 over my 45 running 3 strips, and thought I would put 2 more tubes over the tank. So, I got the ARO220 as it seemed like a bargain at $50 including the endcaps.

But the ARO tubes are definitely much dimmer than the tubes from Ice Cap. Not only that, but there is a noticeable flicker from them, not something I would expect from an "electronic" ballast as they advertised (I should say that I am particularly sensitive to flicker though; even a computer monitor at 100 Hz has a noticeable flicker to me).

So what the heck is the story with these ballasts? are they really VHO ballasts, and are they even electronic for that matter? I'm thinking I'd like to return them, but then the shipping would be almost as much as the stupid ballast.

Anyone else with + or - experiences?

tkeracer619 · 01/20/2006, 10:53 PM

wow flicker on a 100hz monitor, is it old. lol. J/k i nkow what you meen. i find its from me shaking my leg and making the monitor wobble.

Never used the ballast but know some who do and I couldnt see it flicker. Maybe its a bad balast but your probably used to the icecap? Sell it on ebay lol so someone else pays shipping and buy another icecap so they are the same.

TimBob · 01/20/2006, 11:03 PM

I'm using one and I don't notice any flicker. I'm like you, I can notice flicker quite easily.

As far as the brightness goes I do not have anything to compare to since I am only running 2 VHOs, but 2 110W VHOs on the ARO ballast are definately brighter than my old 4 X 55W PC setup.

Pacman100 · 01/20/2006, 11:43 PM

Well, the flickering that was present at first died off. It may have just been new and working itself in or something. It was a little odd...

The bulbs are still definitely dimmer than the Ice Cap though. Maybe it just has to do with Ice Cap being the better/more efficient ballast?

Anyway, I went ahead and hooked up the lights and the tank really looks great with the additional lighting even if it isn't quite as bright as expected. Mostly I'm ticked off because it took all night to redo the wiring, and then didn't really function up to my expectations.

Entropy · 01/21/2006, 01:16 AM

I would check the wiring (especially the end caps) and make sure everything is seated well. Maybe you got a lemon ballast though.

lastin1 · 01/21/2006, 03:08 AM

Have you tried swapping the bulbs to make sure it's not the bulb?

Pacman100 · 01/21/2006, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Entropy
I would check the wiring (especially the end caps) and make sure everything is seated well. Maybe you got a lemon ballast though.

That was one of the first things I tried. I've double and triple checked the wiring and endcaps, and think it's functioning as it's "supposed to".

Quote:

Originally posted by lastin1
Have you tried swapping the bulbs to make sure it's not the bulb?

Yep, switched the bulbs out too, it's just the ARO ballast that's making the bulbs dimmer. I really think the Ice Cap just drives the bulbs at a higher output. The Ice Cap driven bulbs are also noticeably warmer too (not hot though).

Pacman100 · 01/21/2006, 09:09 AM

OK, I wish I had something to actually measure light output, but I do have a temp probe so I figured that might be somewhat useful in getting a rough estimate of bulb output. After starting out at room temp, here are the results:

ARO driven bulb temp:
5 min - 92 degrees
10 min - 105 degrees

Ice Cap driven bulb temp:
5 min - 102 degrees
10 min - 120 degrees

I don't know if it's working as it's supposed to or not, but I'm still debating whether it will go back.

01/20/2006, 10:12 PM	#1
Pacman100 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 103	ARO VHO ballast output stinks I've got an Ice Cap 430 over my 45 running 3 strips, and thought I would put 2 more tubes over the tank. So, I got the ARO220 as it seemed like a bargain at $50 including the endcaps. But the ARO tubes are definitely much dimmer than the tubes from Ice Cap. Not only that, but there is a noticeable flicker from them, not something I would expect from an "electronic" ballast as they advertised (I should say that I am particularly sensitive to flicker though; even a computer monitor at 100 Hz has a noticeable flicker to me). So what the heck is the story with these ballasts? are they really VHO ballasts, and are they even electronic for that matter? I'm thinking I'd like to return them, but then the shipping would be almost as much as the stupid ballast. Anyone else with + or - experiences?

01/20/2006, 10:53 PM	#2
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	wow flicker on a 100hz monitor, is it old. lol. J/k i nkow what you meen. i find its from me shaking my leg and making the monitor wobble. Never used the ballast but know some who do and I couldnt see it flicker. Maybe its a bad balast but your probably used to the icecap? Sell it on ebay lol so someone else pays shipping and buy another icecap so they are the same. __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

01/20/2006, 11:03 PM	#3
TimBob Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Peters, MO Posts: 175	I'm using one and I don't notice any flicker. I'm like you, I can notice flicker quite easily. As far as the brightness goes I do not have anything to compare to since I am only running 2 VHOs, but 2 110W VHOs on the ARO ballast are definately brighter than my old 4 X 55W PC setup. __________________ TimBob Current Tank Info: 75G Mixed Reef + 20G Sump/Fuge - 2X250 MH, 2X110 VHO, 28X Turnover

01/21/2006, 01:16 AM	#5
Entropy Texas Reefer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 13,656	I would check the wiring (especially the end caps) and make sure everything is seated well. Maybe you got a lemon ballast though. __________________ Rich Overton 150G cube FOWLR, 30g sump, ReefKeeperII, 3x Koralia 1400's, QuiteOne 3000, Reef Octopus DNWB150, 4x 30w Par38 LED. Current Tank Info: 36x36x27 150g

01/20/2006, 11:43 PM	#4
Pacman100 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 103	Well, the flickering that was present at first died off. It may have just been new and working itself in or something. It was a little odd... The bulbs are still definitely dimmer than the Ice Cap though. Maybe it just has to do with Ice Cap being the better/more efficient ballast? Anyway, I went ahead and hooked up the lights and the tank really looks great with the additional lighting even if it isn't quite as bright as expected. Mostly I'm ticked off because it took all night to redo the wiring, and then didn't really function up to my expectations.

01/21/2006, 03:08 AM	#6
lastin1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: 92869 Posts: 784	Have you tried swapping the bulbs to make sure it's not the bulb?

01/21/2006, 09:09 AM	#8
Pacman100 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 103	OK, I wish I had something to actually measure light output, but I do have a temp probe so I figured that might be somewhat useful in getting a rough estimate of bulb output. After starting out at room temp, here are the results: ARO driven bulb temp: 5 min - 92 degrees 10 min - 105 degrees Ice Cap driven bulb temp: 5 min - 102 degrees 10 min - 120 degrees I don't know if it's working as it's supposed to or not, but I'm still debating whether it will go back.