ecosystem miracle mud

stormquest2112 · 01/24/2006, 05:29 PM

I was wondering if anyone has ever tried this product and if so what were your results? I have seen 2-3 tanks that have used it and they look great. Your opinions are appreciated.

spongebobby · 01/24/2006, 05:58 PM

I use it and it appears to work well after you get through the initial algea blooms because of the increased iron in the mudd. Here is a pic of my tank using the ecosystem and the mudd. This tank was set-up in sept '05. I am experiencing really good growth now on all my corals. They say that aroung the 8-9 month of use everything explodes with growth but i can't see how any thing can grow faster than it is now. JMO

stormquest2112 · 01/24/2006, 06:52 PM

Do you have a hang on the back sump or a under tank sump? How much mud do you have in your sump?

hoosierpat · 01/24/2006, 08:13 PM

I work in a LFS and we use Eco System's products on both of our display tanks (180 and 225 reefs) and it works great. We get very little nuisance algae, the fish remain extremely healthy, and water changes are only necessary to replenish essential elements. That being said, the mud is supposed to be replaced every 18 months or so. We sell our 10# bags for $80 so it can become a costly proposition to replace even part of the mud. I think we put 40# into the sump when we set it up. I have heard that you can replenish the mud with iron supplements which would be a much cheaper solution.

spongebobby · 01/24/2006, 09:15 PM

I have the 3612 model with 30 lbs. of the mudd. My tank is a 120 RR.

old salty · 01/24/2006, 10:01 PM

I have 30 lbs in my fuge. The tank is only 3 months old, so no "explosive" growth. The only drawback I have with it is that unless I use filter socks, the suspended stuff in the water column gets heavy. I can't get the culerpa in the fuge to grow for anything. Nitrates are zero and have always been. I drip limewater and do 10% water changes weekly using BioSea Marine salt. With the exception of some bubble algae, there is none in the display. Not bad for a skimmerless system.

donfishy76 · 01/25/2006, 01:25 PM

well lets put it this way, i have never really heard anyone say a bad ting about keeping it

some ppl choose to keep a skimmer on their ecosystem filter to add to it, but to each his own

i have used it and i am happy with it

donfishy76 · 01/25/2006, 01:25 PM

well lets put it this way, i have never really heard anyone say a bad thing about keeping it

some ppl choose to keep a skimmer on their ecosystem filter to add to it, but to each his own

i have used it and i am happy with it

Gobie · 01/25/2006, 02:22 PM

I do a 15 gallon water change every three to four months, I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t use a skimmer.

I just did a little experiment, I went over four years without changing the mud. I had xenia that was only a few polyps on a couple rocks. That when I first set up the tank was out of control all over the place. After the three year mark algae was slow growing in the refugium, the xenia didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t spread anymore and looked thin. I changed half the mud and the sump is now full of algae and the xenia is thick and spreading. I have to say IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m not skeptical about the mud anymore, keep up with mud changes it makes a big difference.

01/24/2006, 05:29 PM	#1
stormquest2112 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 189	ecosystem miracle mud I was wondering if anyone has ever tried this product and if so what were your results? I have seen 2-3 tanks that have used it and they look great. Your opinions are appreciated.

01/24/2006, 05:58 PM	#2
spongebobby Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: S.E.M.O Posts: 880	I use it and it appears to work well after you get through the initial algea blooms because of the increased iron in the mudd. Here is a pic of my tank using the ecosystem and the mudd. This tank was set-up in sept '05. I am experiencing really good growth now on all my corals. They say that aroung the 8-9 month of use everything explodes with growth but i can't see how any thing can grow faster than it is now. JMO __________________ 210 gal. mixed Reef Reeflo 200 PRO KIT 1 VORTECH MP40W Gen. 2 GEO Kalk Reactor Aquactinics 72" Constellation 300lbs Gulf-Keys-Fiji-Pukani LR 200 lbs. LS

01/24/2006, 06:52 PM	#3
stormquest2112 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 189	thanks Do you have a hang on the back sump or a under tank sump? How much mud do you have in your sump?

01/24/2006, 09:15 PM	#5
spongebobby Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: S.E.M.O Posts: 880	I have the 3612 model with 30 lbs. of the mudd. My tank is a 120 RR. __________________ 210 gal. mixed Reef Reeflo 200 PRO KIT 1 VORTECH MP40W Gen. 2 GEO Kalk Reactor Aquactinics 72" Constellation 300lbs Gulf-Keys-Fiji-Pukani LR 200 lbs. LS

01/24/2006, 10:01 PM	#6
old salty Genius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Island of Misfit Toys Posts: 3,131	I have 30 lbs in my fuge. The tank is only 3 months old, so no "explosive" growth. The only drawback I have with it is that unless I use filter socks, the suspended stuff in the water column gets heavy. I can't get the culerpa in the fuge to grow for anything. Nitrates are zero and have always been. I drip limewater and do 10% water changes weekly using BioSea Marine salt. With the exception of some bubble algae, there is none in the display. Not bad for a skimmerless system. __________________ "The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." Thomas Jefferson Current Tank Info: Out of the marine aquarium hobby

01/24/2006, 08:13 PM	#4
hoosierpat Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Crete, IL Posts: 862	I work in a LFS and we use Eco System's products on both of our display tanks (180 and 225 reefs) and it works great. We get very little nuisance algae, the fish remain extremely healthy, and water changes are only necessary to replenish essential elements. That being said, the mud is supposed to be replaced every 18 months or so. We sell our 10# bags for $80 so it can become a costly proposition to replace even part of the mud. I think we put 40# into the sump when we set it up. I have heard that you can replenish the mud with iron supplements which would be a much cheaper solution.

01/25/2006, 01:25 PM	#7
donfishy76 Moved On Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 667	well lets put it this way, i have never really heard anyone say a bad ting about keeping it some ppl choose to keep a skimmer on their ecosystem filter to add to it, but to each his own i have used it and i am happy with it

01/25/2006, 02:22 PM	#9
Gobie Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 668	I do a 15 gallon water change every three to four months, I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t use a skimmer. I just did a little experiment, I went over four years without changing the mud. I had xenia that was only a few polyps on a couple rocks. That when I first set up the tank was out of control all over the place. After the three year mark algae was slow growing in the refugium, the xenia didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t spread anymore and looked thin. I changed half the mud and the sump is now full of algae and the xenia is thick and spreading. I have to say IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m not skeptical about the mud anymore, keep up with mud changes it makes a big difference.