cyano outbreak HELP!!!

supernareg · 01/31/2006, 08:37 PM

for the past 2 weeks, i been doing 5 gallon water changes on my 30 gallon display (with 10 gal sump) and nothing affects my cyano... just recently it started about 2 weeks ago, still up today, i siphon'd most of it out, and it came back the next day. its ****ing me off. i feed my fish 2-3 times a week now before it was once every other day. i have 2 false percs, 1 yellow wrasse, 1 cleaner shrimp and about 6 hermits and 3 snails. i have a euroreef 5-3 skimmer in sump, temp's at 81-82 never below 80, never higher than 82. 150watt 20k MH, 2 55watt actinics. MH on for 10hrs, PC on for 12 hours. 6 stalks of xenia and a couple batches of GSP, zoos, candycane, and shrooms. whats causing this? how can i stop it? oh, tank is about 6 months old.

whats causing this stupid problem? i have the saaaaaaaaaame problem in my 12 gal aquapod with 1 seahorse and 1 cleaner shrimp in there.

irmee4 · 01/31/2006, 09:37 PM

maybe give your tank some more flow. have you changed anything lately? also, i would probably lower your temperature to a high of 80. you will probably see your corals start opening up a little more.

supernareg · 01/31/2006, 10:30 PM

all my corals are fully open

roons · 02/01/2006, 07:25 AM

how deep is your sand? i went from feeding once a day to feeding every 3 days, vacuuming out sand with water changes and treating with boyds chemi-clean b4 water change.............i finally got it under control............................and my chaeto is now growing

lemonhead · 02/01/2006, 03:53 PM

what kind of salt are you using and your top off water source, tap or filtered.

John Karavias · 02/01/2006, 04:48 PM

Do you have a low spot in your gravel? Also, as said above lower your temp to ~78. Check your nitrate, phosphate, they are fertilizers for algae. Also, check your tap water for phosphate. You might also think about reducing light time and check for silicone. Deoionized water on the water changes will get rid of phoshpate and silicone

rsteagall · 02/03/2006, 04:16 PM

Reducing light can temporarily stun cyano, but light is not the cause of the problem. Usually more often than not, increasing flow and skimming will take care of cyano. I've never used any chemical to get rid of cyano. Just use RO/DI water, increase flow, and skim skim skim. If you see any starting to develop, just take a powerhead and blow it around back into the water column. It hates to be disturbed... thus again increase your flow!

coryherby · 02/03/2006, 06:35 PM

strange. I have heard the exact opposite about corals and temp from several sources. That they like higher temps.

quack · 02/03/2006, 11:21 PM

consider using 03

roons · 02/04/2006, 06:48 AM

ozone will not do anything for cyano, i have it...............and blowing it around is the worst thing you can do

quack · 02/04/2006, 11:03 AM

i dont think u understand . . . imean ozone and it doesnt blow around. ur tank is small . . . u would need a skimmer . . . my error.

supernareg · 02/04/2006, 10:09 PM

i have a really good skimmer for my 30 gal with 10 gal sump (ER cs5-3) which is a good size. i dont think flow's the problem because tanks been up for about 5-6 months... and this outbreak has happened within this month.

AquaReeferMan · 02/05/2006, 01:04 AM

Hey try Chemi Clean I have used it before with great results kills it out within 2 days. It was used in a reef with mics coral, anemones, fish, inverts.

rock455 · 02/06/2006, 07:34 AM

You may consider using some good carbon on the tank for a while -- There are nutrients that end up in the water that nothing except carbon will pull out -- not even a skimmer --

Abysswater · 02/06/2006, 01:06 PM

I have tried all of these procedures and the only thing that work was Chemi-Clean by Boyed Enterprizes. Good stuff! Don't use your skimmer! That thing will spit more than a cobra.

shawn1965 · 02/06/2006, 05:22 PM

Just like Aquareeferman and abysswater I used Chemi-clean with quick results. Its very inexpensive. I bought it about two years ago and this is the name and phone number on the bag, boyd enterprises in Miami, FL 305-651-2496

01/31/2006, 08:37 PM	#1
supernareg Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,610	cyano outbreak HELP!!! for the past 2 weeks, i been doing 5 gallon water changes on my 30 gallon display (with 10 gal sump) and nothing affects my cyano... just recently it started about 2 weeks ago, still up today, i siphon'd most of it out, and it came back the next day. its ****ing me off. i feed my fish 2-3 times a week now before it was once every other day. i have 2 false percs, 1 yellow wrasse, 1 cleaner shrimp and about 6 hermits and 3 snails. i have a euroreef 5-3 skimmer in sump, temp's at 81-82 never below 80, never higher than 82. 150watt 20k MH, 2 55watt actinics. MH on for 10hrs, PC on for 12 hours. 6 stalks of xenia and a couple batches of GSP, zoos, candycane, and shrooms. whats causing this? how can i stop it? oh, tank is about 6 months old. whats causing this stupid problem? i have the saaaaaaaaaame problem in my 12 gal aquapod with 1 seahorse and 1 cleaner shrimp in there.

02/03/2006, 04:16 PM	#7
rsteagall Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Rockvale, TN (close to Murfreesboro) Posts: 1,612	Reducing light can temporarily stun cyano, but light is not the cause of the problem. Usually more often than not, increasing flow and skimming will take care of cyano. I've never used any chemical to get rid of cyano. Just use RO/DI water, increase flow, and skim skim skim. If you see any starting to develop, just take a powerhead and blow it around back into the water column. It hates to be disturbed... thus again increase your flow! __________________ Ryan Current Tank Info: One hand holding a beer, the other in the tank, and my toes typing on the keyboard. Drunks, reefing, and keyboards do mix in a 5GAL bucket with a 1200 MJ!

02/05/2006, 01:04 AM	#13
AquaReeferMan Got Reef? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Under the Sea, Pa Posts: 4,593	Hey try Chemi Clean I have used it before with great results kills it out within 2 days. It was used in a reef with mics coral, anemones, fish, inverts. __________________ Couple SPS/Zoanthid tanks and a couple of FW planted tanks. Current Tank Info: 5 pieces of glass with some silicone and plastic frames holding them together

02/06/2006, 01:06 PM	#15
Abysswater Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lewisville, TX Posts: 85	I have tried all of these procedures and the only thing that work was Chemi-Clean by Boyed Enterprizes. Good stuff! Don't use your skimmer! That thing will spit more than a cobra. __________________ Too much! Too fast! Too soon! Will leave you nothing! Current Tank Info: 20 Gal tall 10 gal sump

01/31/2006, 09:37 PM	#2
irmee4 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Columbia Posts: 59	maybe give your tank some more flow. have you changed anything lately? also, i would probably lower your temperature to a high of 80. you will probably see your corals start opening up a little more.

01/31/2006, 10:30 PM	#3
supernareg Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,610	all my corals are fully open

02/01/2006, 07:25 AM	#4
roons Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: saugerties ,ny Posts: 1,240	how deep is your sand? i went from feeding once a day to feeding every 3 days, vacuuming out sand with water changes and treating with boyds chemi-clean b4 water change.............i finally got it under control............................and my chaeto is now growing

02/01/2006, 03:53 PM	#5
lemonhead Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: alabama Posts: 280	what kind of salt are you using and your top off water source, tap or filtered.

02/01/2006, 04:48 PM	#6
John Karavias Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Long Island Posts: 37	Do you have a low spot in your gravel? Also, as said above lower your temp to ~78. Check your nitrate, phosphate, they are fertilizers for algae. Also, check your tap water for phosphate. You might also think about reducing light time and check for silicone. Deoionized water on the water changes will get rid of phoshpate and silicone

02/03/2006, 06:35 PM	#8
coryherby Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 203	strange. I have heard the exact opposite about corals and temp from several sources. That they like higher temps.

02/03/2006, 11:21 PM	#9
quack Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: pensacola, florida Posts: 217	consider using 03

02/04/2006, 06:48 AM	#10
roons Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: saugerties ,ny Posts: 1,240	ozone will not do anything for cyano, i have it...............and blowing it around is the worst thing you can do

02/04/2006, 11:03 AM	#11
quack Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: pensacola, florida Posts: 217	i dont think u understand . . . imean ozone and it doesnt blow around. ur tank is small . . . u would need a skimmer . . . my error.

02/04/2006, 10:09 PM	#12
supernareg Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,610	i have a really good skimmer for my 30 gal with 10 gal sump (ER cs5-3) which is a good size. i dont think flow's the problem because tanks been up for about 5-6 months... and this outbreak has happened within this month.

02/06/2006, 07:34 AM	#14
rock455 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Satellite Beach, FL Posts: 692	You may consider using some good carbon on the tank for a while -- There are nutrients that end up in the water that nothing except carbon will pull out -- not even a skimmer --

02/06/2006, 05:22 PM	#16
shawn1965 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Lakeland Posts: 50	Just like Aquareeferman and abysswater I used Chemi-clean with quick results. Its very inexpensive. I bought it about two years ago and this is the name and phone number on the bag, boyd enterprises in Miami, FL 305-651-2496