To Flame, or not to Flame

gill7784 · 02/26/2006, 10:50 PM

I am in love with a Flame Angel at my LFS. Resisting the temptation to impusle buy, I decided to come home and research. I have found that they are generally "reef-safe", but results may vary. I am wondering what all of your thoughts and experiences with Flame Angels are.

I do have several clams that are my "pride and joy".

Thanks!
Josh

gill7784 · 02/27/2006, 12:13 AM

Bumpin it back to first page.

Flameangel · 02/27/2006, 12:40 AM

I have had a flame for 8 years. I love the fish it is beautiful! It nips at my clams and it has to taste my sps from time to time. I am sure my clams would have better expansion without the fish, but it is a trade off.

If your clams are most important to you, then I might skip this fish.

Of interest, the fish that does the greatest damage to my clams is not the flame it is my 9 year old regal blue tang - go figure!

Good luck,
Connie

johnvu713 · 02/27/2006, 03:03 AM

it's a 50/50 chance. I had one for awhile and it hasnt touch any of my coral. But my friend's FA has a taste for corals/clams from day one.

davocean · 02/27/2006, 11:25 AM

I love flames too, but I'm not willing to risk nibbling. I agree, 50/50

aural · 02/27/2006, 11:44 AM

i have to agree. if your clams and SPS are your pride and joy, i'd stear clear of the flame angel. I love them too, but with what i've spent on inverts and corals, its just not a wise decision.

Cutiewitbooty · 02/27/2006, 12:02 PM

I really want one too, but i'm not sure if i'm willing to risk it.

dominick33 · 02/27/2006, 12:48 PM

Have a Flame for the past 4 mos and he has not bothered any coral.

LivingTropicals · 02/27/2006, 01:40 PM

Love my flame. Perfect citizen, just like my sixline he cruises in/out of the rockwork. I have many SPS, a few clams and softies...never been a problem.

smleee · 02/27/2006, 04:36 PM

Had a perfect citizen flame here. When he was nipping the rocks he would do it real slow and calculated when he was close to corals! I think the ratio is a little above 50/50 IMO.

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tankslave · 02/27/2006, 05:11 PM

I thought this was a poll if we should flame discussions or not. I vote for flame...

Cutiewitbooty · 02/27/2006, 05:22 PM

do you guys think if you keep them really well fed they are less likly to pick on corals, clams ect?

Tahoe Ocean · 02/27/2006, 05:23 PM

My flame angel was very well behaved for nearly 2 years, then she tasted some xenia and before I knew it, every coral was nibbled on at least once. I wouldn't risk it if the clams are your "pride and joy." It wouldn't be worth the risk or the hassle of trying to catch the fish again and return it to the LFS.

gibbswagon · 02/27/2006, 05:34 PM

my experience with flames is mixed. he has been behaving for a while now, but at first he sampled everything. when i got a new fish ( neon dottyback) he settled down. imo if there is more distraction in terms of active fish that can stand there own then he will occupy himself with the other tankmates. Now i am not saying overcrowd your tank, but plannig out your other tankmates so that he wont be the undisputed TOP DOG! maybe then he wont think everything is his to sample. but i also dont have clams and in your case i might advise against the flame angel simply because i have heard stories about how they have a taste for clams. just my two cents.

DMK · 02/27/2006, 06:12 PM

sps are my shiznit, but want a flame bad. i think it's worth the chance. no clams for me. my next fish i think is going to be a flame.

View Poll Results: Flame Angel in a reef?
Yes, they are generall safe and worth the risk	23	65.71%
NO, curse the thought!	12	34.29%
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02/26/2006, 10:50 PM	#1
gill7784 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 77	To Flame, or not to Flame I am in love with a Flame Angel at my LFS. Resisting the temptation to impusle buy, I decided to come home and research. I have found that they are generally "reef-safe", but results may vary. I am wondering what all of your thoughts and experiences with Flame Angels are. I do have several clams that are my "pride and joy". Thanks! Josh

02/27/2006, 11:25 AM	#5
davocean Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,655	I love flames too, but I'm not willing to risk nibbling. I agree, 50/50 __________________ There's a fine line between owning your tank and your tank owning you! Current Tank Info: SCA 120g RR Starfire, Tunze silence 1073.02 return, 40g sump w/ fuge, SWC Extreme 160 cone skimmer,Geismann reflexx 4xT5, 2x Panorama Pro LED strips, Vortech MP40QD

02/27/2006, 11:44 AM	#6
aural Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,214	i have to agree. if your clams and SPS are your pride and joy, i'd stear clear of the flame angel. I love them too, but with what i've spent on inverts and corals, its just not a wise decision. __________________ (¯`•._(¯`•._(-aural-)_.•´¯)_.•´¯) Current Tank Info: 20g Reef - 12g Nano-Cube - Another possible Nano in the works

02/27/2006, 12:02 PM	#7
Cutiewitbooty Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alaska For 18 Years, Now Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 2,795	I really want one too, but i'm not sure if i'm willing to risk it. __________________ WARNING: Taking my advice may result in personal injury and/or jail time. ~Amber~

02/27/2006, 12:13 AM	#2
gill7784 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 77	Bumpin it back to first page.

02/27/2006, 12:40 AM	#3
Flameangel Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 660	I have had a flame for 8 years. I love the fish it is beautiful! It nips at my clams and it has to taste my sps from time to time. I am sure my clams would have better expansion without the fish, but it is a trade off. If your clams are most important to you, then I might skip this fish. Of interest, the fish that does the greatest damage to my clams is not the flame it is my 9 year old regal blue tang - go figure! Good luck, Connie

02/27/2006, 03:03 AM	#4
johnvu713 Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: houston Posts: 732	it's a 50/50 chance. I had one for awhile and it hasnt touch any of my coral. But my friend's FA has a taste for corals/clams from day one.

02/27/2006, 12:48 PM	#8
dominick33 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 68	Have a Flame for the past 4 mos and he has not bothered any coral.

02/27/2006, 01:40 PM	#9
LivingTropicals Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 231	Love my flame. Perfect citizen, just like my sixline he cruises in/out of the rockwork. I have many SPS, a few clams and softies...never been a problem.

02/27/2006, 04:36 PM	#10
smleee Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 1,344	Had a perfect citizen flame here. When he was nipping the rocks he would do it real slow and calculated when he was close to corals! I think the ratio is a little above 50/50 IMO. eee

02/27/2006, 05:11 PM	#11
tankslave Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Jose Posts: 1,893	I thought this was a poll if we should flame discussions or not. I vote for flame... __________________ Whoever said fishkeeping will lower your blood pressure never had a reef aquarium... "A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought." -Lord Peter Wimsey, "Gaudy Night" Current Tank Info: Tankless Reefer

02/27/2006, 05:22 PM	#12
Cutiewitbooty Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alaska For 18 Years, Now Cape Coral, Florida Posts: 2,795	do you guys think if you keep them really well fed they are less likly to pick on corals, clams ect? __________________ WARNING: Taking my advice may result in personal injury and/or jail time. ~Amber~

02/27/2006, 05:23 PM	#13
Tahoe Ocean Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe, CA Posts: 504	My flame angel was very well behaved for nearly 2 years, then she tasted some xenia and before I knew it, every coral was nibbled on at least once. I wouldn't risk it if the clams are your "pride and joy." It wouldn't be worth the risk or the hassle of trying to catch the fish again and return it to the LFS. __________________ Member in South Lake Tahoe, CA. If you're coming to ski, take a frag home instead of a keychain! Current Tank Info: CBS, blue leg hermits, baja red legged hermits, snails, mushrooms, green zoos, kenya tree coral, xenia, ricordeas, Open brain, candy canes, digitata, montipora, hydnophora, a baby clam, frogspawn and torches

02/27/2006, 05:34 PM	#14
gibbswagon Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 177	my experience with flames is mixed. he has been behaving for a while now, but at first he sampled everything. when i got a new fish ( neon dottyback) he settled down. imo if there is more distraction in terms of active fish that can stand there own then he will occupy himself with the other tankmates. Now i am not saying overcrowd your tank, but plannig out your other tankmates so that he wont be the undisputed TOP DOG! maybe then he wont think everything is his to sample. but i also dont have clams and in your case i might advise against the flame angel simply because i have heard stories about how they have a taste for clams. just my two cents. __________________ Hail to the Redskins Current Tank Info: 55 gal, flame angel,yellowtail damsel, cinnamon clown, neon dottyback,spotted mandarin

02/27/2006, 06:12 PM	#15
DMK Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: central NJ Posts: 2,494	sps are my shiznit, but want a flame bad. i think it's worth the chance. no clams for me. my next fish i think is going to be a flame.