disappointments and letdowns

xdusty6920 · 03/07/2006, 09:28 PM

well today i had my shocktart colony fall on my rainbow echinata and a whole lot of expensive jelly is the result. the real problem was the super glue gel and how it absolutely doesnt work. no matter the brand or how much i apply. often i have to use it underwater (alot of times the rock is big and lower in the tank) and im sure this takes away from its curing time but it just doesnt work. a small bump or snail hits it and tumbling it goes.
also joes juice comes to mind. melts them down and they return a few days later.
well this got me thinking and i was wondering if others have had common solutions completely fail them. i wanna hear about all those great solutions and products that are supposed to be a great remedy.........but completely came up short of thier reputation.

SDguy · 03/07/2006, 09:36 PM

Sorry to hear that man. Personally, I've only had success with superglue gel/aquamend on small frags. Larger pieces won't hold.
And dabbing at least the frag part dry with a paper towel REALLY helps.

Dissapointments that come to mind:

1. My first skimmer that I bought - ReadSea Berlin classic...triple pass technology my *ss.

2. Unfortunately, I have to agree...Joe's juice..works for a while, but they come back.

3. Mag drive pumps....plumbing size, head pressure, valves....even looking at them wrong causes loss of flow.

cw150 · 03/07/2006, 09:47 PM

Loctite gel is by far the best glue. If worse comes to worse, get a stick of plumbers putty from HD and use a tiny amount to lock the frag in place.

stewie24 · 03/07/2006, 10:15 PM

1. Nano fission skimmer - IMO its just junk. I've tinkered with it for over 2 months with no "good" skimmate. Filterpads need replaced too often.
2. A skimmer I bought (won't mention brand because it isn't a big name brand, but someone who does/did use RC). He makes them and sells them. They looked like a great design from the start, but i've had nothing but trouble with mine. Its an insump model, but sometimes it creates large bubbles as if it were in freshwater, and I never really get any dark/dry skimmate.

Stewie

chrismunn · 03/07/2006, 10:24 PM

yeah, i use super glue and i have to agree, it sucks. although i have gotten it hold well on a few things. ricordeas believe it or not. i still have a recordea with superglue on it from like 6 months back....but most of the time the crap fails.

ive had success with a sewing needle and thread, but it doesnt do much good on stonys

Jive Turkey · 03/08/2006, 12:24 AM

Super glue has worked very well for me for all that I've tried it on. The surfaces need to be patted dry with a paper towel, or it won't bond and "expensive jelly" will result.

xdusty6920 · 03/08/2006, 12:33 AM

man sounds like im not the only one out there whos been let down. when i talk about super glue gel i dont mean glueing the actual coral to the rumble or frag plug. i mean gluing the frag plug to my rockwork, which usually has to be done under water.
anyways keep em coming guys!

MiddletonMark · 03/08/2006, 06:39 AM

pH test kits.
I think I bought 5 in the course of around a year - as each seemed to give incorrect readings. 3 different makers, side by side, so often seemed to give 3 different readouts. By the end, if I was lucky, a couple would agree

... but I'm glad I went with a pH monitor.

xdusty6920 · 03/08/2006, 07:59 PM

the only ph test kit ive found thats been accurate is aquarium pharmaceuticals. suprising because its cheaper and not often talked about, but still my go to for ph.
anyone else?

steve the plumb · 03/08/2006, 08:41 PM

A Pharm has very good test kits they are accurate and cheap.I still prefer my ph monitor the calcium monitor sucked I returned it.My remora pro skimmer sucked,my sea clone sucked,I stopped buying additives after spending time on Randys forum.My best Puchases Reef doser twin the tunze osmolator I have the calcium dispencer(tunze) for kalk is ok but I think a kalk stirrer would be better.Sea swirl I am very happy with that aswell as aqua medic mh pendants.Very happy with the lights.I just got the deltec mce 600 I will see if its worth the money.Its good but so is my PC skimmer at half the cost.If you want a good skimmer that works great try the Pacific Coast recirculating skimmer.I have seen it in action and it works great for the money.

03/07/2006, 09:28 PM	#1
xdusty6920 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 2,261	disappointments and letdowns well today i had my shocktart colony fall on my rainbow echinata and a whole lot of expensive jelly is the result. the real problem was the super glue gel and how it absolutely doesnt work. no matter the brand or how much i apply. often i have to use it underwater (alot of times the rock is big and lower in the tank) and im sure this takes away from its curing time but it just doesnt work. a small bump or snail hits it and tumbling it goes. also joes juice comes to mind. melts them down and they return a few days later. well this got me thinking and i was wondering if others have had common solutions completely fail them. i wanna hear about all those great solutions and products that are supposed to be a great remedy.........but completely came up short of thier reputation.

03/07/2006, 09:36 PM	#2
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	Sorry to hear that man. Personally, I've only had success with superglue gel/aquamend on small frags. Larger pieces won't hold. And dabbing at least the frag part dry with a paper towel REALLY helps. Dissapointments that come to mind: 1. My first skimmer that I bought - ReadSea Berlin classic...triple pass technology my *ss. 2. Unfortunately, I have to agree...Joe's juice..works for a while, but they come back. 3. Mag drive pumps....plumbing size, head pressure, valves....even looking at them wrong causes loss of flow. __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

03/07/2006, 10:24 PM	#5
chrismunn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 4,200	yeah, i use super glue and i have to agree, it sucks. although i have gotten it hold well on a few things. ricordeas believe it or not. i still have a recordea with superglue on it from like 6 months back....but most of the time the crap fails. ive had success with a sewing needle and thread, but it doesnt do much good on stonys __________________ Marine Aquarists Association of South Texas Austin Reef Club PBITAWA... Current Tank Info: 14g bio cube

03/08/2006, 06:39 AM	#8
MiddletonMark Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 14,441	pH test kits. I think I bought 5 in the course of around a year - as each seemed to give incorrect readings. 3 different makers, side by side, so often seemed to give 3 different readouts. By the end, if I was lucky, a couple would agree ... but I'm glad I went with a pH monitor. __________________ read a lot, think for yourself Current Tank Info: 58g stony reef [250w10k, 250w 20k MH, 2x vho act, Octopus150, 6060 + 6000] ; 60g mixed tub

03/07/2006, 09:47 PM	#3
cw150 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: nw suburbs chicago Posts: 330	Loctite gel is by far the best glue. If worse comes to worse, get a stick of plumbers putty from HD and use a tiny amount to lock the frag in place.

03/07/2006, 10:15 PM	#4
stewie24 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Northwestern PA Posts: 824	1. Nano fission skimmer - IMO its just junk. I've tinkered with it for over 2 months with no "good" skimmate. Filterpads need replaced too often. 2. A skimmer I bought (won't mention brand because it isn't a big name brand, but someone who does/did use RC). He makes them and sells them. They looked like a great design from the start, but i've had nothing but trouble with mine. Its an insump model, but sometimes it creates large bubbles as if it were in freshwater, and I never really get any dark/dry skimmate. Stewie

03/08/2006, 12:24 AM	#6
Jive Turkey Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Royalton, Minnesota Posts: 1,417	Super glue has worked very well for me for all that I've tried it on. The surfaces need to be patted dry with a paper towel, or it won't bond and "expensive jelly" will result.

03/08/2006, 12:33 AM	#7
xdusty6920 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 2,261	man sounds like im not the only one out there whos been let down. when i talk about super glue gel i dont mean glueing the actual coral to the rumble or frag plug. i mean gluing the frag plug to my rockwork, which usually has to be done under water. anyways keep em coming guys!

03/08/2006, 07:59 PM	#9
xdusty6920 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 2,261	the only ph test kit ive found thats been accurate is aquarium pharmaceuticals. suprising because its cheaper and not often talked about, but still my go to for ph. anyone else?

03/08/2006, 08:41 PM	#10
steve the plumb Moved On Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 3,664	A Pharm has very good test kits they are accurate and cheap.I still prefer my ph monitor the calcium monitor sucked I returned it.My remora pro skimmer sucked,my sea clone sucked,I stopped buying additives after spending time on Randys forum.My best Puchases Reef doser twin the tunze osmolator I have the calcium dispencer(tunze) for kalk is ok but I think a kalk stirrer would be better.Sea swirl I am very happy with that aswell as aqua medic mh pendants.Very happy with the lights.I just got the deltec mce 600 I will see if its worth the money.Its good but so is my PC skimmer at half the cost.If you want a good skimmer that works great try the Pacific Coast recirculating skimmer.I have seen it in action and it works great for the money.