fumigation with tent of the entire home

Data · 03/09/2006, 10:57 AM

my house has to be tented for termites.
what are you doing with your setup, if your house has to be fumigated with a tent over it for 48 hours?
last choice would be a complete take down of the tank and move it to a friends house and start from scratch after that.

what are people doing with huge tanks?

one idea is, to stop all pumps, completely wrap the tank and sump in plastic foil and make it air tight and just hope for the best.
would fish and coral survive 2 days in stagnant water?

maybe there is an easier solution I haven't thought of.

Reef'in Colorado · 03/09/2006, 11:05 AM

I don't have any 1st hand experience with this, but I think you need to move the entire set-up to your friends house. I would be surprised if anything except zoos would live through it.

fittdog8848 · 03/09/2006, 11:41 AM

Well I agree with reff'in......but you could get some batery operated air pumps to put in the display tank. That would at least add some circulation to the display tank.

Data · 03/09/2006, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fittdog8848
Well I agree with reff'in......but you could get some batery operated air pumps to put in the display tank. That would at least add some circulation to the display tank.

I was first thinking of that too, but then I realized that that air pump would pull the air including the killer chemicals through the tank water - not a good thing.

Dubbin1 · 03/09/2006, 11:56 AM

Since it is only a 29g tank I would take it down.

Data · 03/09/2006, 12:21 PM

I'm pretty much set on taking this one down, but next time around I might have a much larger setup with fish room etc. and therefore would like to know how someone with a 300+ gal tank would handle a situation like this.

davocean · 03/09/2006, 01:08 PM

If your house is being tented you should be good for a long time.
If you're concerned about future infestation, buy the annual inspection.
Early detection usually means local treat w/ chem, which isn't such a big deal.
Seal all wood w/ stain/paint as deterent.
And I agree, take it down

davocean · 03/09/2006, 01:09 PM

If your house is being tented you should be good for a long time.
If you're concerned about future infestation, buy the annual inspection.
Early detection usually means local treat w/ chem, which isn't such a big deal.
Seal all wood w/ stain/paint as deterent.
And I agree, take it down

fishman805 · 03/09/2006, 01:44 PM

Tear it down without a doubt..... Your tank will not survive two days without some sort of circulation.... And you simply can not take the chance of pesticide fumes getting into the tank ....

Bob

55Reef · 03/09/2006, 03:19 PM

We had our house tented for termites. I tore my tank down.
I didn't want to take the risk.

Just think how bad you would feel if you left your tank up
and it got wiped out. I don't think it's worth the risk.

Better safe than sorry.

HTH

whiteshark · 03/09/2006, 03:31 PM

Take it down, don't risk it.

jefathome · 03/09/2006, 03:33 PM

With a larger tank you might be able to get away with pulling out out all the FISH, but leave the corals. Their metabolic rate is probably much lower than that of the fish. Then seal it up air tight with low flow.

WIth a small tank, tear it down.

illuminum · 03/09/2006, 03:35 PM

I hate to say it but you have to take it down...

CW from the OC · 03/09/2006, 05:47 PM

29 gallons?

Go get one of those 44 gallon brute trashcans with wheels at Home Depot, put everything in it with a battery powered airstone, and sit out outside in your backyard.

scottbythesea · 03/09/2006, 06:55 PM

Hi All, Just a thought that happened to work.

Been there done that......When all else fails for the tanks that can't be moved .....Took all the stuff off the top off my tank and wrapped that rascal with a window shrink insulation wrap (thermal King brand)2x. Went one time around with painteres wide tape to insure when powering up no slipping .

Leaving a postive air incomming line from out side source which was done with some 1/2,5/8 inch air tubing (New) to a vacum canister run outside(safe location) I would image a gerden hose if kept dry would do in a pinch. Keep in mind that some kind of air dump out will be required but just keep it smaller then the incomming...to my amaze ment my dump became my over flow line do what you must...this not only provided water movement and oxygen but kept the all important postive pressure that keeps the bad stuff at bay.

Went one step farther (good idea for you prone to power loss areas) I also rigged a rule pump to a 12 volt deep cycle battery with good conections (to stop open flame /igniton) into the tank for further movement the battery at full charge may run for a day if your lucky....everything helps.

If you educate the fumagators to your needs you may save yourself a lot of heart ache.

Don't forget to seal and or remove all items that you fear will be contaminated refq. tank tools, sink areas.

I think this will get a few of you thinking differently about that big breakdown hassle and start thinking ....Possistively......air pressured!

Scott Herritt
Lil'Rhody Reefer

03/09/2006, 10:57 AM	#1
Data Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 172	fumigation with tent of the entire home my house has to be tented for termites. what are you doing with your setup, if your house has to be fumigated with a tent over it for 48 hours? last choice would be a complete take down of the tank and move it to a friends house and start from scratch after that. what are people doing with huge tanks? one idea is, to stop all pumps, completely wrap the tank and sump in plastic foil and make it air tight and just hope for the best. would fish and coral survive 2 days in stagnant water? maybe there is an easier solution I haven't thought of. __________________ 29gal tank 20gal sump/fuge Aquac Remora skimmer mag7 return mag3 closed loop 60# LS and 52# LR orbit 30" 2X65W dual daylight 6700k/10000k dual actinic 420nm/460nm lunar lights Current Tank Info: See my Sig, 2 False Percula Clown, 1 Yellow Head Jawfish, 1 Lawnmower Blenny, 1 GBTA, Pumping Xenia, 1 Cleaner Shrimp, 1 Peppermint Shrimp, 1 Emerald Crab, 15 Red Legged Hermits, 30 Snails also a 12gal Mantis Tank with a 2" N Wennerae and a 5gal

03/09/2006, 11:41 AM	#3
fittdog8848 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bozeman, MT Posts: 308	Well I agree with reff'in......but you could get some batery operated air pumps to put in the display tank. That would at least add some circulation to the display tank. __________________ When Chuck Norris falls in water, Chuck Norris doesn't get wet. Water gets Chuck Norris. Current Tank Info: 100g Reef with 50g refugium/sump

03/09/2006, 12:21 PM	#6
Data Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 172	I'm pretty much set on taking this one down, but next time around I might have a much larger setup with fish room etc. and therefore would like to know how someone with a 300+ gal tank would handle a situation like this. __________________ 29gal tank 20gal sump/fuge Aquac Remora skimmer mag7 return mag3 closed loop 60# LS and 52# LR orbit 30" 2X65W dual daylight 6700k/10000k dual actinic 420nm/460nm lunar lights Current Tank Info: See my Sig, 2 False Percula Clown, 1 Yellow Head Jawfish, 1 Lawnmower Blenny, 1 GBTA, Pumping Xenia, 1 Cleaner Shrimp, 1 Peppermint Shrimp, 1 Emerald Crab, 15 Red Legged Hermits, 30 Snails also a 12gal Mantis Tank with a 2" N Wennerae and a 5gal

03/09/2006, 01:08 PM	#7
davocean Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,655	If your house is being tented you should be good for a long time. If you're concerned about future infestation, buy the annual inspection. Early detection usually means local treat w/ chem, which isn't such a big deal. Seal all wood w/ stain/paint as deterent. And I agree, take it down __________________ There's a fine line between owning your tank and your tank owning you! Current Tank Info: SCA 120g RR Starfire, Tunze silence 1073.02 return, 40g sump w/ fuge, SWC Extreme 160 cone skimmer,Geismann reflexx 4xT5, 2x Panorama Pro LED strips, Vortech MP40QD

03/09/2006, 01:09 PM	#8
davocean Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,655	If your house is being tented you should be good for a long time. If you're concerned about future infestation, buy the annual inspection. Early detection usually means local treat w/ chem, which isn't such a big deal. Seal all wood w/ stain/paint as deterent. And I agree, take it down __________________ There's a fine line between owning your tank and your tank owning you! Current Tank Info: SCA 120g RR Starfire, Tunze silence 1073.02 return, 40g sump w/ fuge, SWC Extreme 160 cone skimmer,Geismann reflexx 4xT5, 2x Panorama Pro LED strips, Vortech MP40QD

03/09/2006, 11:05 AM	#2
Reef'in Colorado Reefer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Frederick, Co. Posts: 934	I don't have any 1st hand experience with this, but I think you need to move the entire set-up to your friends house. I would be surprised if anything except zoos would live through it.

03/09/2006, 11:56 AM	#5
Dubbin1 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Findlay, Ohio Posts: 11,540	Since it is only a 29g tank I would take it down.

03/09/2006, 01:44 PM	#9
fishman805 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Middle Georgia area Posts: 2,189	Tear it down without a doubt..... Your tank will not survive two days without some sort of circulation.... And you simply can not take the chance of pesticide fumes getting into the tank .... Bob

03/09/2006, 03:19 PM	#10
55Reef Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 779	We had our house tented for termites. I tore my tank down. I didn't want to take the risk. Just think how bad you would feel if you left your tank up and it got wiped out. I don't think it's worth the risk. Better safe than sorry. HTH

03/09/2006, 03:31 PM	#11
whiteshark Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bethlehem, PA Posts: 3,024	Take it down, don't risk it. __________________ Deep Blue 60 gallon cube: Setup in progress.

03/09/2006, 03:33 PM	#12
jefathome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 2,915	With a larger tank you might be able to get away with pulling out out all the FISH, but leave the corals. Their metabolic rate is probably much lower than that of the fish. Then seal it up air tight with low flow. WIth a small tank, tear it down. __________________ Without Geometry, life is pointless Current Tank Info: NEW 150g in-wall Solartube display; 60g 4x2ft frag tank; 3g work Pico.... all Reef tanks

03/09/2006, 03:35 PM	#13
illuminum Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 79	I hate to say it but you have to take it down... __________________ Current Tanks: 28 gal JBJ nano reef Current Tank Info: jbj 28gal nano

03/09/2006, 05:47 PM	#14
CW from the OC Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 853	29 gallons? Go get one of those 44 gallon brute trashcans with wheels at Home Depot, put everything in it with a battery powered airstone, and sit out outside in your backyard. __________________ Cheers! C Dub Current Tank Info: 210 LeeMar starfire reef (7x2x2), 100 gal SoCalCreations sump, Aquacontroller 3, Geo 618 fed by Cole Parmer peri pump, ATB Large Cone , Aquatinics Constellation T5, 4 Vortecs with wireless controllers, Eheim 1262 return on a SeaSwirl

03/09/2006, 06:55 PM	#15
scottbythesea Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ashaway Rhode Island Posts: 431	Hi All, Just a thought that happened to work. Been there done that......When all else fails for the tanks that can't be moved .....Took all the stuff off the top off my tank and wrapped that rascal with a window shrink insulation wrap (thermal King brand)2x. Went one time around with painteres wide tape to insure when powering up no slipping . Leaving a postive air incomming line from out side source which was done with some 1/2,5/8 inch air tubing (New) to a vacum canister run outside(safe location) I would image a gerden hose if kept dry would do in a pinch. Keep in mind that some kind of air dump out will be required but just keep it smaller then the incomming...to my amaze ment my dump became my over flow line do what you must...this not only provided water movement and oxygen but kept the all important postive pressure that keeps the bad stuff at bay. Went one step farther (good idea for you prone to power loss areas) I also rigged a rule pump to a 12 volt deep cycle battery with good conections (to stop open flame /igniton) into the tank for further movement the battery at full charge may run for a day if your lucky....everything helps. If you educate the fumagators to your needs you may save yourself a lot of heart ache. Don't forget to seal and or remove all items that you fear will be contaminated refq. tank tools, sink areas. I think this will get a few of you thinking differently about that big breakdown hassle and start thinking ....Possistively......air pressured! Scott Herritt Lil'Rhody Reefer __________________ Bad Ray,Badddd Ray! Current Tank Info: 300+ Gals SPS Dominate Tang Wrangler