allright here is my sump Design..any errors??

rsxs1212 · 04/29/2006, 12:12 AM

Allright here is my sump design with tank. Is there anything that could cause a problem?? is the hang on overflow OK?? do i need a refugim or is that not needed??

kau_cinta_ku · 04/29/2006, 06:22 AM

IMO get rid of the bioballs and replace with a fuge or you will have nitrate problems. also put the skimmer in the first section, let it have first grabs at the water comming in.

rsxs1212 · 04/29/2006, 06:52 AM

fuge???is that a refugim???

sjm817 · 04/29/2006, 06:58 AM

HOB overflow is OK as long as you get a good one (not a CPR). I would skip the ball valve on the drain. Skip the bioballs and add a bubble trap before the return pump. Dont go overboard on the return pump size.

crumbletop · 04/29/2006, 10:29 AM

Yes on the bubble trap -- that's a good idea to add. Also, having the skimmer before the bubble trap can help keep microbubbles out of the return. I'd recommend unions in the return and drain piping to make maintenenace on the sump/pump/etc easier.

Re ball valves: I have a ball valve on my drain and I recommend it. I don't use it to limit the flow at all except for when I do maintenance in the sump. I use it to keep water from leaking down onto me...

Re return pump size, I agree with sjm817. Don't go overboard...

Jack

rsxs1212 · 04/29/2006, 02:44 PM

i still dont understrand the"fuge" is that a refugim?? and if so what does the refugim do/???

04/29/2006, 12:12 AM	#1
rsxs1212 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bradenton Posts: 1,148	allright here is my sump Design..any errors?? Allright here is my sump design with tank. Is there anything that could cause a problem?? is the hang on overflow OK?? do i need a refugim or is that not needed?? __________________ 60% of the time it works every time Current Tank Info: 75g RR,asm g3, eheim 1250, 2 1200's one highflow maxistream mod (may do another or med flow.) , 30g sump,fuge, 4x54 T5 lighting SLR reflectors, RO/DI top off, 20L FOWLR, 10 g prop/sps dedicated

04/29/2006, 06:52 AM	#3
rsxs1212 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bradenton Posts: 1,148	fuge???is that a refugim??? __________________ 60% of the time it works every time Current Tank Info: 75g RR,asm g3, eheim 1250, 2 1200's one highflow maxistream mod (may do another or med flow.) , 30g sump,fuge, 4x54 T5 lighting SLR reflectors, RO/DI top off, 20L FOWLR, 10 g prop/sps dedicated

04/29/2006, 06:58 AM	#4
sjm817 On Yer left! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern VA Posts: 18,777	HOB overflow is OK as long as you get a good one (not a CPR). I would skip the ball valve on the drain. Skip the bioballs and add a bubble trap before the return pump. Dont go overboard on the return pump size. __________________ - Scott

04/29/2006, 10:29 AM	#5
crumbletop Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 4,718	Yes on the bubble trap -- that's a good idea to add. Also, having the skimmer before the bubble trap can help keep microbubbles out of the return. I'd recommend unions in the return and drain piping to make maintenenace on the sump/pump/etc easier. Re ball valves: I have a ball valve on my drain and I recommend it. I don't use it to limit the flow at all except for when I do maintenance in the sump. I use it to keep water from leaking down onto me... Re return pump size, I agree with sjm817. Don't go overboard... Jack __________________ "Misers get up early in the morning; and burglars, I am informed, get up the night before." - GK Chesterton Current Tank Info: 90 gallon AGA RR. 20 gal sump. 6x54W T5. AquaController Jr.

04/29/2006, 02:44 PM	#6
rsxs1212 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bradenton Posts: 1,148	i still dont understrand the"fuge" is that a refugim?? and if so what does the refugim do/??? __________________ 60% of the time it works every time Current Tank Info: 75g RR,asm g3, eheim 1250, 2 1200's one highflow maxistream mod (may do another or med flow.) , 30g sump,fuge, 4x54 T5 lighting SLR reflectors, RO/DI top off, 20L FOWLR, 10 g prop/sps dedicated

04/29/2006, 06:22 AM	#2
kau_cinta_ku Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,669	IMO get rid of the bioballs and replace with a fuge or you will have nitrate problems. also put the skimmer in the first section, let it have first grabs at the water comming in.