Are foxface, and longnose b-fly related?

hrdneglcry · 08/04/2006, 07:20 PM

Are fox faced-rabbitfish, and longnose Butterfly fish closely related?

hrdneglcry · 08/05/2006, 08:10 PM

Are fox face rabbitfish, and long nose Butterfly fish closely related? I ask because their colors are very similar, and they are on the same parts of each fishes body, although not identical. It was said to use caution, and not to put foxface rabbitfish with any other rabbitfish, and not to tank it with anyfish closely related. So is the longnose Butterfly fish closely related to the Foxface rabbitfish?

Sk8r · 08/05/2006, 08:24 PM

They're not in the same species. But you are right to be cautious: sometimes a fish will take exception to another that just triggers something in its brain that says Rival! Similarity in pattern can do that, and certainly it is worth watching closely. Float the bag in the tank without letting the fish loose, and see if you get a hostile reaction---that's a lot easier than catching them after you've been through qt and have let them loose.

Note: even intelligent creatures like orcas will apparently recognize and react to a black/white pattern resembling themselves, be it only painted on a board.

And I do recommend qt-ing each: they're both ich-prone. I swear ich is almost endemic in rabbits.

artful-dodger · 08/05/2006, 08:27 PM

Not closely related at all (they are in the same order--Perciformes--along with most of the common aquarium choices) but it isn't uncommon for aggressive fish to pick on somebody with similar apperance. That said, a foxface is generally very timid.

Scott Michael's Reef Fishes, Volume 1 (not his pocket reference) has a great chapter that introduces reef fish taxonomy.

hrdneglcry · 08/06/2006, 07:20 AM

Powder Blue Tangs are said to be Ich prone. If the Long Nose Butterfly is prone to Ich would it be less prone, more prone, or evenly prone to Ich as the Powder Blue Tang? Please let me know. Thanks.
Also the Long Nose Butterfly fish is said to do better in the aquarium than any other Butterfly which is why I chose it. I really like the Red Sea Butterfly fish. Is it prone to Ich as well?

08/04/2006, 07:20 PM	#1
hrdneglcry Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 733	Foxface rabbitfish & Long nose Butterfly Are fox faced-rabbitfish, and longnose Butterfly fish closely related? __________________ Sunday morning, 9 AM, I saw fire in the sky, I felt my heart, pound in my chest, I HeaRrD aN EaGLe CRY. HRDNEGLCRY. S. Hagar "Eagles Fly"

08/05/2006, 08:10 PM	#2
hrdneglcry Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 733	Are foxface, and longnose b-fly related? Are fox face rabbitfish, and long nose Butterfly fish closely related? I ask because their colors are very similar, and they are on the same parts of each fishes body, although not identical. It was said to use caution, and not to put foxface rabbitfish with any other rabbitfish, and not to tank it with anyfish closely related. So is the longnose Butterfly fish closely related to the Foxface rabbitfish? __________________ Sunday morning, 9 AM, I saw fire in the sky, I felt my heart, pound in my chest, I HeaRrD aN EaGLe CRY. HRDNEGLCRY. S. Hagar "Eagles Fly"

08/05/2006, 08:24 PM	#3
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	They're not in the same species. But you are right to be cautious: sometimes a fish will take exception to another that just triggers something in its brain that says Rival! Similarity in pattern can do that, and certainly it is worth watching closely. Float the bag in the tank without letting the fish loose, and see if you get a hostile reaction---that's a lot easier than catching them after you've been through qt and have let them loose. Note: even intelligent creatures like orcas will apparently recognize and react to a black/white pattern resembling themselves, be it only painted on a board. And I do recommend qt-ing each: they're both ich-prone. I swear ich is almost endemic in rabbits. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

08/05/2006, 08:27 PM	#4
artful-dodger Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Highlands Ranch, Colorado Posts: 3,011	Not closely related at all (they are in the same order--Perciformes--along with most of the common aquarium choices) but it isn't uncommon for aggressive fish to pick on somebody with similar apperance. That said, a foxface is generally very timid. Scott Michael's Reef Fishes, Volume 1 (not his pocket reference) has a great chapter that introduces reef fish taxonomy. __________________ "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." -- Thomas Jefferson Current Tank Info: 140g RR Oceanic "Ultimate" mixed reef, 37g softies, 40g RBTA tank, 65g FOWLR, 40g breeder frag, and (of course) a 29g QT! ...next up is a 240g! (Gotta go to K-Mart and buy a life...)

08/06/2006, 07:20 AM	#5
hrdneglcry Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 733	Powder Blue Tang Ich Powder Blue Tangs are said to be Ich prone. If the Long Nose Butterfly is prone to Ich would it be less prone, more prone, or evenly prone to Ich as the Powder Blue Tang? Please let me know. Thanks. Also the Long Nose Butterfly fish is said to do better in the aquarium than any other Butterfly which is why I chose it. I really like the Red Sea Butterfly fish. Is it prone to Ich as well? __________________ Sunday morning, 9 AM, I saw fire in the sky, I felt my heart, pound in my chest, I HeaRrD aN EaGLe CRY. HRDNEGLCRY. S. Hagar "Eagles Fly" Last edited by hrdneglcry; 08/06/2006 at 07:32 AM.