Metal Halide Mogual socket or HQI

aeroaustin · 08/08/2006, 09:24 PM

I am not sure about Mogual or HQI, I am tried to find any information about mogual and HQI in forums, seems can't find any threat, maybe I am overmiss, I am too busy to looking the best price for MH ballast and reflector and VHO ballast.

what is difference between of Mogual and HQI and what is your perference and best suitable for tank? honestly this is big challenges me to know which is good, there are many many stuffs to choose for my tank.

ballast is easy to doing my self or suggest to buy ballast with ready to connect plug to mogual? I have no problem but maybe to hassle for wiring?

aeroaustin · 08/09/2006, 05:25 PM

*bump* anyone?

seanb · 08/09/2006, 11:59 PM

I have the same question, Mogul vs HQI? Anyone care to comment or direct me to previous threads on this?

theatrus · 08/10/2006, 12:07 AM

DE bulbs are smaller, and the reflectors tend to cover a small footprint. They also usually need a UV shield glass piece.

SE bulbs are bigger (duh), and the glass shield is always built in.

McCrary · 08/10/2006, 12:48 AM

I have always been a fan of SE bulbs.

hahnmeister · 08/10/2006, 01:15 AM

I prefer HQI + DE bulbs for higher output and longer bulb life... eventually, SEs will be replaced with DE for this reason. The spread of the light depends on the reflector... you can get DE lumenarcs if you prefer a wider coverage. DE bulbs are made to a higher spec than SE bulbs though.

seanb · 08/10/2006, 01:17 AM

Do they produce the same amount of light per watt of energy used?
Do they produce the same amount of heat?
Does one last longer than the other?

aeroaustin · 08/10/2006, 05:09 AM

Ummm... DE is the short for Doubled End? that what you meaning? I checked the Hello lignts and I think I like the 250 watts Metal Halide HQI retros with double ended. that what its called DE? if I am corrected? its makes from ARO

The reflectors mirror have included with glass sheild and it nice to have combos and only needs to buy phoneix HQI bulb

hahnmeister · 08/10/2006, 12:52 PM

DE = double ended SE= single ended, you are correct.

DE bulbs have a higher output over their lifespan because they last longer. SE bulbs can lose up to 60% of their output in a year.

rigleautomotive · 08/10/2006, 12:57 PM

sanjay joshi wrote many informative pieces including comparison of the bulbs you mention.search him and you should find what you are looking for.

aeroaustin · 08/10/2006, 02:21 PM

Thanks, I already setting up plan for my 37 gallon tank is 150 watts HQI and 2X 75 watts VHO, Both are from Hello Lights. thanks for your input and I really appericated your feeback.

08/08/2006, 09:24 PM	#1
aeroaustin Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 134	Metal Halide Mogual socket or HQI I am not sure about Mogual or HQI, I am tried to find any information about mogual and HQI in forums, seems can't find any threat, maybe I am overmiss, I am too busy to looking the best price for MH ballast and reflector and VHO ballast. what is difference between of Mogual and HQI and what is your perference and best suitable for tank? honestly this is big challenges me to know which is good, there are many many stuffs to choose for my tank. ballast is easy to doing my self or suggest to buy ballast with ready to connect plug to mogual? I have no problem but maybe to hassle for wiring?

08/09/2006, 11:59 PM	#3
seanb Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Central Coast, CA Posts: 236	I have the same question, Mogul vs HQI? Anyone care to comment or direct me to previous threads on this? __________________ The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" but "That's funny..."' - Isaac Asimov Current Tank Info: 225 gal reef tank

08/10/2006, 12:07 AM	#4
theatrus 100-mile-commuter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: almost nevada Posts: 4,721	DE bulbs are smaller, and the reflectors tend to cover a small footprint. They also usually need a UV shield glass piece. SE bulbs are bigger (duh), and the glass shield is always built in. __________________ Custom electronics purveyor. blueAcro.com Current Tank Info: 90g SPS+mixed reef (10 yrs): LEDBrick LEDs, 40g custom sump, Ca reactor, chiller, Vortech, lots of custom electronics

08/10/2006, 12:48 AM	#5
McCrary Can't Stop Time Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,079	I have always been a fan of SE bulbs. __________________ Matt Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. Titus Maccius Plautus (254 BC - 184 BC), Rudens

08/10/2006, 01:17 AM	#7
seanb Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Central Coast, CA Posts: 236	Do they produce the same amount of light per watt of energy used? Do they produce the same amount of heat? Does one last longer than the other? __________________ The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" but "That's funny..."' - Isaac Asimov Current Tank Info: 225 gal reef tank

08/09/2006, 05:25 PM	#2
aeroaustin Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 134	bump anyone?

08/10/2006, 01:15 AM	#6
hahnmeister Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Brew City, WI Posts: 10,156	I prefer HQI + DE bulbs for higher output and longer bulb life... eventually, SEs will be replaced with DE for this reason. The spread of the light depends on the reflector... you can get DE lumenarcs if you prefer a wider coverage. DE bulbs are made to a higher spec than SE bulbs though.

08/10/2006, 05:09 AM	#8
aeroaustin Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 134	Ummm... DE is the short for Doubled End? that what you meaning? I checked the Hello lignts and I think I like the 250 watts Metal Halide HQI retros with double ended. that what its called DE? if I am corrected? its makes from ARO The reflectors mirror have included with glass sheild and it nice to have combos and only needs to buy phoneix HQI bulb

08/10/2006, 12:52 PM	#9
hahnmeister Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Brew City, WI Posts: 10,156	DE = double ended SE= single ended, you are correct. DE bulbs have a higher output over their lifespan because they last longer. SE bulbs can lose up to 60% of their output in a year.

08/10/2006, 12:57 PM	#10
rigleautomotive Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,705	sanjay joshi wrote many informative pieces including comparison of the bulbs you mention.search him and you should find what you are looking for. __________________ Dan Rigle President, * Reef Conservation Society TOTM December 2010 Coral Magazine Sept/Oct 2012 Current Tank Info: 180 gal SPS dominated display, 3 X 250 watt Radiums , lumenarc III minis , with VHO actinics, ETS downdraft skimmers, closed loops and 2 Tunze 6105 & 7095 controller,DIY calcium reactors DIY custom built sumps,since 1992

08/10/2006, 02:21 PM	#11
aeroaustin Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 134	Thanks, I already setting up plan for my 37 gallon tank is 150 watts HQI and 2X 75 watts VHO, Both are from Hello Lights. thanks for your input and I really appericated your feeback.