they say percula clowns are not hardy

rigleautomotive · 08/21/2006, 01:52 PM

about 5 weeks ago i noticed one of my mated pair of clowns was no where.i found no remains and just did not know.its mate was perfect.i have been bummed for 5 weeks.its the first fish i lost in many years.yesterday i did a water change and found the clown in a 100 micron bag,live and healthy.just thought i would share that.meanwhile the LFS i frequent says he cant keep a percula alive.ha

bkiba · 08/21/2006, 01:56 PM

clownfish are to SW what goldfish are to FW. I wouldn't go to that LFS if he can't keep clowns alive.

rigleautomotive · 08/21/2006, 02:03 PM

i dont buy from him i sell him frags,but he has got some bad percula shipments these last coupl of months.very small tank raised and sick wild caught

bkiba · 08/21/2006, 02:15 PM

If it is feasibile, I'd even consider selling frags to a different dealer. You don't want all your hard work going to waste in his tanks. Unless you are selling him xenia - that is a different story

RicGio · 08/21/2006, 06:47 PM

I've had a true perc for over 5 years. He's a monster! He's lived thru my battles with flatworms, numerous power outtages and the time my fan crapped out and tank temp got to 89 degrees for at least 12 hours.

Mishap · 08/21/2006, 06:57 PM

It's not necessarily his store's tank parameters. I've talked to many LFS about the quality of their livestock providers. All of them say that sometimes the supplier sometimes just gets a bad stock. It's not the LFS's fault, at least they are providing you a place to make some pocket change.

Peter Eichler · 08/21/2006, 07:15 PM

Percula clowns IME have never shipped very well from wholesalers. If they make it through the first night after you get them you're fine, but I can recall losing as much as half a shipment of about 2 dozen percs on more than one occasion. Gumdrop Gobies were always the same way. The biggest factor may be that they often came from overseas with multiples per bag, several distributors would bag the same way as well.

jwd · 08/21/2006, 07:16 PM

I wud say they are hardy once they are properly quarantined and acclimated..........after the first 6 weeks or so I didn't worry about mine and they endured temps around 100 when my heater broke......but those first couple of weeks they're already weak from the constant shipping so they'll catch brook and ich more easily.......IME at least.....

Salty Brother · 08/21/2006, 07:24 PM

my 2 percs are troopers, they have been through everything. From starting out with the tank, having frustrating water changes, to qting them for ich (by the way they didnt show any signs of it when my gramma and angel did!) I love them too, everyone can eaisy identify then and they are well...cute. Im soon picking up a sabae for them. Hope they like it!

wayne in norway · 08/22/2006, 03:07 AM

Newly imported clowns aren't very hardy at all. After a month they're bullet, but till then...

rigleautomotive · 08/22/2006, 12:32 PM

the two percula clowns i have originally had a bubble tip for a couple of years then it started to wander around.i tossed it back in its old resting place but it did not stay.it was it a frag grow out tank and was starting to damage corals so i traded it to LFS.the clowns now hang out in a cabbage leather and sometimes xenia.the survival rate is much better if you give the newly added clowns a big anemone.you can always remove later once the clowns acclimate

petoonia · 08/23/2006, 12:57 AM

I had a percula about 8 years ago that survived an aiptasia invasion, a bristle worm invasion, a sudden heat wave in May that cranked the tank up to about 90 degrees for an entire afternoon. The high temp. killed everything else and made the water quality horrible. It ruined our filter, power head, and protein skimmer. That was a terrible day! We took down the tank the only trhings left alive were the percula, a yellow tail damsel. and an emerald crab. We put them in a 10g. tank Until we finally broke down and gave them away.

We really loved that little percula!!!!!

08/21/2006, 01:52 PM	#1
rigleautomotive Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,705	they say percula clowns are not hardy about 5 weeks ago i noticed one of my mated pair of clowns was no where.i found no remains and just did not know.its mate was perfect.i have been bummed for 5 weeks.its the first fish i lost in many years.yesterday i did a water change and found the clown in a 100 micron bag,live and healthy.just thought i would share that.meanwhile the LFS i frequent says he cant keep a percula alive.ha

08/21/2006, 01:56 PM	#2
bkiba Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 1,410	clownfish are to SW what goldfish are to FW. I wouldn't go to that LFS if he can't keep clowns alive. __________________ "...and all the fish that lay in dirtied waters dying.... have they got you hypnotized?" -Robert Plant

08/21/2006, 02:03 PM	#3
rigleautomotive Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,705	i dont buy from him i sell him frags,but he has got some bad percula shipments these last coupl of months.very small tank raised and sick wild caught __________________ Dan Rigle President, * Reef Conservation Society TOTM December 2010 Coral Magazine Sept/Oct 2012 Current Tank Info: 180 gal SPS dominated display, 3 X 250 watt Radiums , lumenarc III minis , with VHO actinics, ETS downdraft skimmers, closed loops and 2 Tunze 6105 & 7095 controller,DIY calcium reactors DIY custom built sumps,since 1992

08/21/2006, 02:15 PM	#4
bkiba Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 1,410	If it is feasibile, I'd even consider selling frags to a different dealer. You don't want all your hard work going to waste in his tanks. Unless you are selling him xenia - that is a different story __________________ "...and all the fish that lay in dirtied waters dying.... have they got you hypnotized?" -Robert Plant

08/21/2006, 07:15 PM	#7
Peter Eichler Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 6,081	Percula clowns IME have never shipped very well from wholesalers. If they make it through the first night after you get them you're fine, but I can recall losing as much as half a shipment of about 2 dozen percs on more than one occasion. Gumdrop Gobies were always the same way. The biggest factor may be that they often came from overseas with multiples per bag, several distributors would bag the same way as well. __________________ April 2015 TOTM

08/21/2006, 06:47 PM	#5
RicGio Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 658	I've had a true perc for over 5 years. He's a monster! He's lived thru my battles with flatworms, numerous power outtages and the time my fan crapped out and tank temp got to 89 degrees for at least 12 hours.

08/21/2006, 06:57 PM	#6
Mishap Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 977	It's not necessarily his store's tank parameters. I've talked to many LFS about the quality of their livestock providers. All of them say that sometimes the supplier sometimes just gets a bad stock. It's not the LFS's fault, at least they are providing you a place to make some pocket change.

08/21/2006, 07:16 PM	#8
jwd Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: south jersey Posts: 94	I wud say they are hardy once they are properly quarantined and acclimated..........after the first 6 weeks or so I didn't worry about mine and they endured temps around 100 when my heater broke......but those first couple of weeks they're already weak from the constant shipping so they'll catch brook and ich more easily.......IME at least.....

08/21/2006, 07:24 PM	#9
Salty Brother Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 1,119	my 2 percs are troopers, they have been through everything. From starting out with the tank, having frustrating water changes, to qting them for ich (by the way they didnt show any signs of it when my gramma and angel did!) I love them too, everyone can eaisy identify then and they are well...cute. Im soon picking up a sabae for them. Hope they like it!

08/22/2006, 03:07 AM	#10
wayne in norway Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 1,271	Newly imported clowns aren't very hardy at all. After a month they're bullet, but till then...

08/22/2006, 12:32 PM	#11
rigleautomotive Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,705	the two percula clowns i have originally had a bubble tip for a couple of years then it started to wander around.i tossed it back in its old resting place but it did not stay.it was it a frag grow out tank and was starting to damage corals so i traded it to LFS.the clowns now hang out in a cabbage leather and sometimes xenia.the survival rate is much better if you give the newly added clowns a big anemone.you can always remove later once the clowns acclimate __________________ Dan Rigle President, * Reef Conservation Society TOTM December 2010 Coral Magazine Sept/Oct 2012 Current Tank Info: 180 gal SPS dominated display, 3 X 250 watt Radiums , lumenarc III minis , with VHO actinics, ETS downdraft skimmers, closed loops and 2 Tunze 6105 & 7095 controller,DIY calcium reactors DIY custom built sumps,since 1992

08/23/2006, 12:57 AM	#12
petoonia HereWeGoAgain... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,648	I had a percula about 8 years ago that survived an aiptasia invasion, a bristle worm invasion, a sudden heat wave in May that cranked the tank up to about 90 degrees for an entire afternoon. The high temp. killed everything else and made the water quality horrible. It ruined our filter, power head, and protein skimmer. That was a terrible day! We took down the tank the only trhings left alive were the percula, a yellow tail damsel. and an emerald crab. We put them in a 10g. tank Until we finally broke down and gave them away. We really loved that little percula!!!!! __________________ I've been in the hobby for about 10 years....(so I know a little bit)...(but not all that much).... Current Tank Info: 58G. Oceanic (Starphire). Mixed Reef