Nori mess

eskymick · 09/11/2006, 10:58 AM

What is the best way to feed nori to algae loving fish?

I've notices that after several hours of being in a tank, the nori sheet begins to disintegrate and pieces are seen floating about the tank. After several more hours, it starts to become a real mess. I always use a small piece, and I've been rubberbanding it to a piece of LR rubble .. making it "flat" to the rock.

Is there a better way to feed nori to "browsing" fish, like tangs?

michaeldaly · 09/11/2006, 11:22 AM

Thats how I have also always fed nori.

Asuran · 09/11/2006, 12:13 PM

feed more frequently but in smaller portions? i feed mine on two seperate clips and they finish it within 10 min 2x4" sheets

drummereef · 09/11/2006, 12:16 PM

I made a custom clip, out of acrylic, that goes down about 6-8 inches below the water surface. I don't have to stick my hand in the water and my fish loves it.

Mr31415 · 09/11/2006, 12:25 PM

Get a SeaVeggies clip... And remember to remove the Sushi Nori after 2 hours if not eaten - it leaches Nitrates into your water.

navajo · 09/11/2006, 12:39 PM

But what about those of us that put it in for the Tangs when we leave for work, then don't get home until about 12 hrs later?

I am in the same boat. By the time I get home to take the clip out, the bit that is inside the clip that the fish can't get to makes a REAL mess in the tank.

glaudds · 09/11/2006, 12:39 PM

I cut mine into 4x4 sheets, fold them in half, then roll them up tight like a cigarette. Then I rubber band them to a small rock with a couple of rubberbands. The nori stays nice and compact and allows the fish to browse on it without it falling apart.

Ooulophilia · 09/11/2006, 12:55 PM

I I tie my clip to one of the braces of my canopy with zipties, so I can fish it out easily. When I feed the nori, I fold it up into squares as tightly as possible then put it in the clip. The fish can't pull the sheets off that way.

mta · 09/11/2006, 02:05 PM

I cut the nori sheets into tiny pieces,like flake food.Soak it in vitachem and feed.2x a day.

eskymick · 09/11/2006, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mta
I cut the nori sheets into tiny pieces,like flake food.Soak it in vitachem and feed.2x a day.

I started doing that for my angels a few weeks ago. Have you been doing that for a long time? If so, have you noticed any positive effects of feeding Vitachem regularly?

That technique works great for the water column eaters, but unfortunately my powder blue prefers to graze off the rocks.

Thanks for your input, and I look forward to your Vitachem observations.

eskymick · 09/11/2006, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by glaudds
I cut mine into 4x4 sheets, fold them in half, then roll them up tight like a cigarette. Then I rubber band them to a small rock with a couple of rubberbands. The nori stays nice and compact and allows the fish to browse on it without it falling apart.

Sounds like keeping a tight "packet" of nori helps keep it together. That must be the secret.

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr31415
Get a SeaVeggies clip... And remember to remove the Sushi Nori after 2 hours if not eaten - it leaches Nitrates into your water.

Thanks for the tip about the nitrates, I never would have thought of that.

flameangel88 · 09/11/2006, 02:33 PM

I cut the sheet into 4 pcs (7"x4") then fold in half the roll around a piece of rubble and tie with small rubberband on both ends. This been working great for me otherwise it break into pieces and get sucked into the powerheads. I do this twice a day but at least once will be soaked in selcon & vitachem.

r00onmac · 09/11/2006, 03:44 PM

true about the nitrates? i just got an angel and ive been trying to get him to eat some nori... i soaked it in garlic and rubberbanded it to a rock... left it in there from yesterday morning until this afternoon... just a few bites out of it... and today i did the same... its been in there since like 3....

should i really be taking it out if it isnt eaten? i wanna let the angel have an opportunity to get to it if he wants to..

flameangel88 · 09/11/2006, 04:02 PM

I feed nori twice a day and I don't have any left over and if there is any the clean up crew will finish it. If you have left over then I would just cut smaller pieces till they would finish in half a day. Honestly, I'm not sure which is worst to worry about--not having enough veggie in their diet or nitrate will kill them but I would rather die with a full stomach.

ACBlinky · 09/11/2006, 04:11 PM

I fold a 2" x 4" piece so I end up with a 1" x 1" square, and clip it with the folded end out so the fish pick rather than grabbing large pieces. My angel snack all day long and it stays in the clip without ending up all over the tank.

Someone posted about the actual amount of nitrates released by nori a while ago, and after doing the math it's really nothing to worry about unless you're using a lot of nori and have a very small tank.

eskymick · 09/11/2006, 07:55 PM

thanks all

ezhoops · 09/11/2006, 08:23 PM

I use a small magna float to hold it in place

Mr31415 · 09/12/2006, 01:00 AM

Someone posted about the actual amount of nitrates released by nori a while ago, and after doing the math it's really nothing to worry about unless you're using a lot of nori and have a very small tank

Yeah it was me. Something like 20mg/L for a small 3cm x 2cm piece. However the context was that this was with about 100ml or so of water....

However if you do feed sushi nory heavily and never remove it it will surely make a nitrate difference. At the end it is all up to you whether the nitrates are less of an issue than proper feeding.

eskymick · 09/12/2006, 06:48 AM

Is there another type of nori other than Sushi nori?

geckofrog · 09/12/2006, 07:39 AM

whatever my tang doesn't eat, my turbos will come over and munch on it till there is nothing left.

09/11/2006, 10:58 AM	#1
eskymick Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pulaski, WI Posts: 1,368	Nori mess What is the best way to feed nori to algae loving fish? I've notices that after several hours of being in a tank, the nori sheet begins to disintegrate and pieces are seen floating about the tank. After several more hours, it starts to become a real mess. I always use a small piece, and I've been rubberbanding it to a piece of LR rubble .. making it "flat" to the rock. Is there a better way to feed nori to "browsing" fish, like tangs?

09/11/2006, 12:13 PM	#3
Asuran Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Scarborough Posts: 504	feed more frequently but in smaller portions? i feed mine on two seperate clips and they finish it within 10 min 2x4" sheets __________________ 180gallon reef, 70gallon sump 110gallon reef, 50 gallon sump (former tank) 70gallon FOWLR, 30 gallon sump

09/11/2006, 12:39 PM	#6
navajo Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern VA Posts: 644	But what about those of us that put it in for the Tangs when we leave for work, then don't get home until about 12 hrs later? I am in the same boat. By the time I get home to take the clip out, the bit that is inside the clip that the fish can't get to makes a REAL mess in the tank. __________________ Tom (The Tool Man) "Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to KEEP fish and his family will soon be eating Ramen Noodles..." Current Tank Info: 210 GAL SW/ 55 GAL Heavily planted FW/ 3000 GAL KOI Pond/

09/11/2006, 12:39 PM	#7
glaudds Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Glendale, So. Cal. Posts: 2,425	I cut mine into 4x4 sheets, fold them in half, then roll them up tight like a cigarette. Then I rubber band them to a small rock with a couple of rubberbands. The nori stays nice and compact and allows the fish to browse on it without it falling apart. __________________ When you hear hoof beats, think of horses, not zebras. Current Tank Info: 125g 6' acrylic, 55g sump/fuge, Iwaki WMD30RLXT return, 2 x 250 watt 10k XM ARO e-ballasts, 4 x 96 watt PC Actinic 03, Jeff's Pro 6-2 Skimmer, K2R Ca Reactor w/ARM media, MRC Kalk Reactor, TLF Phosban, 3x MJ 1200 mods, Reefkeeper 2 Controller

09/11/2006, 03:44 PM	#13
r00onmac DVM in training Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 1,161	true about the nitrates? i just got an angel and ive been trying to get him to eat some nori... i soaked it in garlic and rubberbanded it to a rock... left it in there from yesterday morning until this afternoon... just a few bites out of it... and today i did the same... its been in there since like 3.... should i really be taking it out if it isnt eaten? i wanna let the angel have an opportunity to get to it if he wants to.. __________________ Matthew Current Tank Info: 55 display with 20L sump

09/11/2006, 11:22 AM	#2
michaeldaly Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Earth Posts: 2,009	Thats how I have also always fed nori.

09/11/2006, 12:16 PM	#4
drummereef Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: STL Posts: 14,754	I made a custom clip, out of acrylic, that goes down about 6-8 inches below the water surface. I don't have to stick my hand in the water and my fish loves it.

09/11/2006, 12:25 PM	#5
Mr31415 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Surrey, Canada Posts: 1,926	Get a SeaVeggies clip... And remember to remove the Sushi Nori after 2 hours if not eaten - it leaches Nitrates into your water.

09/11/2006, 12:55 PM	#8
Ooulophilia Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Norcal Posts: 482	I I tie my clip to one of the braces of my canopy with zipties, so I can fish it out easily. When I feed the nori, I fold it up into squares as tightly as possible then put it in the clip. The fish can't pull the sheets off that way.

09/11/2006, 02:05 PM	#9
mta Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: yonkers new york Posts: 418	I cut the nori sheets into tiny pieces,like flake food.Soak it in vitachem and feed.2x a day.

09/11/2006, 02:33 PM	#12
flameangel88 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 3,998	I cut the sheet into 4 pcs (7"x4") then fold in half the roll around a piece of rubble and tie with small rubberband on both ends. This been working great for me otherwise it break into pieces and get sucked into the powerheads. I do this twice a day but at least once will be soaked in selcon & vitachem.

09/11/2006, 04:02 PM	#14
flameangel88 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 3,998	I feed nori twice a day and I don't have any left over and if there is any the clean up crew will finish it. If you have left over then I would just cut smaller pieces till they would finish in half a day. Honestly, I'm not sure which is worst to worry about--not having enough veggie in their diet or nitrate will kill them but I would rather die with a full stomach.

09/11/2006, 04:11 PM	#15
ACBlinky Premium Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Peterborough, ON, Canada Posts: 4,954 Blog Entries: 20	I fold a 2" x 4" piece so I end up with a 1" x 1" square, and clip it with the folded end out so the fish pick rather than grabbing large pieces. My angel snack all day long and it stays in the clip without ending up all over the tank. Someone posted about the actual amount of nitrates released by nori a while ago, and after doing the math it's really nothing to worry about unless you're using a lot of nori and have a very small tank. __________________ "The cure for anything is salt water: sweat, tears, or the sea." - Isak Dinesen Current Tank Info: 150g mixed reef, 30g sump/refugium, LED lighting, 100lbs LR, coral beauty, flame angel, blue & yellow tangs, gobies, damsels, 6-line wrasse, lawnmower blenny, dottyback, clown pair, rabbitfish, shrimp, crabs, CUC.

09/11/2006, 07:55 PM	#16
eskymick Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pulaski, WI Posts: 1,368	thanks all __________________ SG - 1.025 pH - 8.1 NH4/NH3 - 0 mg/L NO2 - .003 mg/L NO3 - .2 mg/L Calc. - 420 dKH - 8.0 Flow ~ 80x Current Tank Info: 24" cube SPS Reef, 15 gal sump, 1- LumenBright Pendant with 250w 20K Phoenix lamp, 1 - Vortech MP40, ATB 840 v1.5 skimmer.

09/11/2006, 08:23 PM	#17
ezhoops Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Royal Oak, Michigan Posts: 3,530	I use a small magna float to hold it in place __________________ "Keep your Friends Close, Your Anemones Closer" Current Tank Info: Working on 60 cube, sicce 3.0 return pump, 29 gal sump with fuge,Bubble Magnus NAC6 Skimmer, Aquaticlife 4 bulb T-5 VHO, 29gal Rare Clown breeding

09/12/2006, 01:00 AM	#18
Mr31415 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Surrey, Canada Posts: 1,926	Someone posted about the actual amount of nitrates released by nori a while ago, and after doing the math it's really nothing to worry about unless you're using a lot of nori and have a very small tank Yeah it was me. Something like 20mg/L for a small 3cm x 2cm piece. However the context was that this was with about 100ml or so of water.... However if you do feed sushi nory heavily and never remove it it will surely make a nitrate difference. At the end it is all up to you whether the nitrates are less of an issue than proper feeding.

09/12/2006, 06:48 AM	#19
eskymick Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pulaski, WI Posts: 1,368	Is there another type of nori other than Sushi nori? __________________ SG - 1.025 pH - 8.1 NH4/NH3 - 0 mg/L NO2 - .003 mg/L NO3 - .2 mg/L Calc. - 420 dKH - 8.0 Flow ~ 80x Current Tank Info: 24" cube SPS Reef, 15 gal sump, 1- LumenBright Pendant with 250w 20K Phoenix lamp, 1 - Vortech MP40, ATB 840 v1.5 skimmer.

09/12/2006, 07:39 AM	#20
geckofrog Registered Member. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 505	whatever my tang doesn't eat, my turbos will come over and munch on it till there is nothing left. __________________ Ryan Current Tank Info: 75G,