4 65w pc over 26g bowfront to much light?

RobsReefs · 10/04/2006, 09:57 PM

i Would love to get some input on my setup and coral placement in tank.

RobsReefs · 10/04/2006, 10:00 PM

4x 65watt. 2 10k and 2 blue[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...91PICT2604.JPG [/IMG]

sir_dudeguy · 10/04/2006, 10:11 PM

no way is that too much light. IMO, its pretty good..not that watts per gallon matter much, but it comes to exactly 10 watts per gallon.. so you've got pretty good amount of light imo, and theres no way that its too much (specially since its just pc's)

plus the corals look happy, so i'd be happy

RobsReefs · 10/04/2006, 10:13 PM

cool thanks how about SPS down the road. Why i ask is my Xenia is loosing her feathery part of polyps around â€œfingers?â€

sir_dudeguy · 10/04/2006, 10:24 PM

well you've got plenty of light for xenia, so the only reason it'd be doing this that i can thnk of would be water quality...check the following:
amonia
nitrite
NITRATE
phosphate
temperature
SG
and i'm forgetting something, someoen else will pitch in hopefully.

Its possible that you could do sps down the road...but wait a long time and let the tank mature...and if you dont have a skimmer, GET ONE. imo, they're a must for sps corals because they need pristine water conditions.

RobsReefs · 10/04/2006, 10:38 PM

donâ€™t laugh but I have a skimmer in my pics. Its air stone driven and works I just have to play with it often the original skimmer I had was to tall

Apocallypse · 10/04/2006, 10:42 PM

calcium and alk.

also xenia, absorb disolved organic componds. They also like strong water movement.

RobsReefs · 10/05/2006, 01:14 PM

all good

sir_dudeguy · 10/05/2006, 01:38 PM

what are the actual numbers tho? you'd be surprised at how many people say "all fine" for the parameters and then they actually tell their numbers later and they find out that there was actually a number that wasnt "all good" that they didnt know about...so just to be sure, post the numbers.

RobsReefs · 10/05/2006, 03:01 PM

Sorry to be so vague when asking for help.

Ammonia: 0
N02(nitrite): 0
*N03 (nitrate) : >12.5mg/l but < 0mg/l*??
Temp: 80.7 F
Calcium: 475-500ppm
S.G.: 1.024
*KH: 7 dh*???
tank is 4 months old all live rock is 3+ years in fowlr tank same with sand
thank you

sir_dudeguy · 10/05/2006, 04:01 PM

i'm about to run out the door so i cant google it right now, but do you know what 12.5mg/l comes out to in ppm?

and i could be wrong but usually you want the calcium to be 400-450...so it might be a little high, but i dont know if it would cause that. What salt is it? i'm gonna stab at oceanic, or that you dose calcium?

and i dont know about the KH so i'll let whoever else stab at that one..

RobsReefs · 10/05/2006, 04:56 PM

I donâ€™t dose calcium so I donâ€™t know why it is so high the only thing I have added is a touch of iodine and phytoplankton. I do weekly 5g water changes. I buy natural sea water from lfs for $1 a gal.

sir_dudeguy · 10/05/2006, 08:55 PM

i'd test the sea water that you're getting. I dont think that 475 would be toooo bad, but i could be wrong...

RobsReefs · 10/05/2006, 09:00 PM

how about my N03 12.5mg/l=12.5ppm????? or so iv heard please correct me

sir_dudeguy · 10/05/2006, 09:03 PM

ppm and mg/l are not the same thing i dont think...i'll see if i can find anything on that...but if they are the same, then 12 would not be that bad of a number, but should be brought down below 10...

RobsReefs · 10/05/2006, 09:03 PM

also 12.5 ppm is bad right. i also have to get away from the tetra teats i think how r the RED SEA tests that is the calcium i have

RobsReefs · 10/05/2006, 09:05 PM

so 10 ppm N03 is ideal

sir_dudeguy · 10/05/2006, 09:16 PM

ok well i did a google search and after lookin at 20 pages of "bla bla bla" (at least thats what it all looks like to me lol) of scientific lookin mumbo jumbo...i found this page..
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/facts-sl...onv-table.html
somewhere on there it said this.

Quote:

1 mg/kg or 1 mg/L = 1 ppm

as to your last question...for nitrates, less than 10 is what you wanna shoot for. ime, having 12 isnt really gonna start doing anything yet, but technically it could so its best to keep it down.

As for the tests...i only trust salifert brand, but i've never tried the red sea brand...but salifert seems to be the only one out of a bunch that i've tried that is consistently accurate.

RobsReefs · 10/05/2006, 09:23 PM

thank you your a big help

10/04/2006, 09:57 PM	#1
RobsReefs Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lodi Ca. Posts: 714	4 65w pc over 26g bowfront to much light? i Would love to get some input on my setup and coral placement in tank.

10/04/2006, 10:00 PM	#2
RobsReefs Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lodi Ca. Posts: 714	4x 65w 4x 65watt. 2 10k and 2 blue[IMG] http://reefcentral.com/gallery/data/...91PICT2604.JPG [/IMG]

10/04/2006, 10:11 PM	#3
sir_dudeguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 10,841	no way is that too much light. IMO, its pretty good..not that watts per gallon matter much, but it comes to exactly 10 watts per gallon.. so you've got pretty good amount of light imo, and theres no way that its too much (specially since its just pc's) plus the corals look happy, so i'd be happy __________________ TAKE...LUCK!!!

10/04/2006, 10:24 PM	#5
sir_dudeguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 10,841	well you've got plenty of light for xenia, so the only reason it'd be doing this that i can thnk of would be water quality...check the following: amonia nitrite NITRATE phosphate temperature SG and i'm forgetting something, someoen else will pitch in hopefully. Its possible that you could do sps down the road...but wait a long time and let the tank mature...and if you dont have a skimmer, GET ONE. imo, they're a must for sps corals because they need pristine water conditions. __________________ TAKE...LUCK!!!

10/05/2006, 01:14 PM	#8
RobsReefs Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lodi Ca. Posts: 714	all good __________________ I Love This Hobby!!!! Current Tank Info: 180g BB Acrylic SPS Tank 4'x3'x2' 42g sump, Tunze Wavebox, 3 large prop MJ mods, "My Large diy skimmer", Velocity T3 Return Pump, 250w 20k Radium's in Lumenarc's 2 39w Giesemann Actinic+, Neptune Systems AquaController.....

10/04/2006, 10:13 PM	#4
RobsReefs Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lodi Ca. Posts: 714	cool thanks how about SPS down the road. Why i ask is my Xenia is loosing her feathery part of polyps around â€œfingers?â€

10/04/2006, 10:38 PM	#6
RobsReefs Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lodi Ca. Posts: 714	donâ€™t laugh but I have a skimmer in my pics. Its air stone driven and works I just have to play with it often the original skimmer I had was to tall

10/04/2006, 10:42 PM	#7
Apocallypse Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 56	calcium and alk. also xenia, absorb disolved organic componds. They also like strong water movement.

10/05/2006, 01:38 PM	#9
sir_dudeguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 10,841	what are the actual numbers tho? you'd be surprised at how many people say "all fine" for the parameters and then they actually tell their numbers later and they find out that there was actually a number that wasnt "all good" that they didnt know about...so just to be sure, post the numbers. __________________ TAKE...LUCK!!!

10/05/2006, 03:01 PM	#10
RobsReefs Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lodi Ca. Posts: 714	Sorry to be so vague when asking for help. Ammonia: 0 N02(nitrite): 0 N03 (nitrate) : >12.5mg/l but < 0mg/l?? Temp: 80.7 F Calcium: 475-500ppm S.G.: 1.024 KH: 7 dh??? tank is 4 months old all live rock is 3+ years in fowlr tank same with sand thank you __________________ I Love This Hobby!!!! Current Tank Info: 180g BB Acrylic SPS Tank 4'x3'x2' 42g sump, Tunze Wavebox, 3 large prop MJ mods, "My Large diy skimmer", Velocity T3 Return Pump, 250w 20k Radium's in Lumenarc's 2 39w Giesemann Actinic+, Neptune Systems AquaController.....

10/05/2006, 04:01 PM	#11
sir_dudeguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 10,841	i'm about to run out the door so i cant google it right now, but do you know what 12.5mg/l comes out to in ppm? and i could be wrong but usually you want the calcium to be 400-450...so it might be a little high, but i dont know if it would cause that. What salt is it? i'm gonna stab at oceanic, or that you dose calcium? and i dont know about the KH so i'll let whoever else stab at that one.. __________________ TAKE...LUCK!!!

10/05/2006, 04:56 PM	#12
RobsReefs Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lodi Ca. Posts: 714	I donâ€™t dose calcium so I donâ€™t know why it is so high the only thing I have added is a touch of iodine and phytoplankton. I do weekly 5g water changes. I buy natural sea water from lfs for $1 a gal. __________________ I Love This Hobby!!!! Current Tank Info: 180g BB Acrylic SPS Tank 4'x3'x2' 42g sump, Tunze Wavebox, 3 large prop MJ mods, "My Large diy skimmer", Velocity T3 Return Pump, 250w 20k Radium's in Lumenarc's 2 39w Giesemann Actinic+, Neptune Systems AquaController.....

10/05/2006, 08:55 PM	#13
sir_dudeguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 10,841	i'd test the sea water that you're getting. I dont think that 475 would be toooo bad, but i could be wrong... __________________ TAKE...LUCK!!!

10/05/2006, 09:00 PM	#14
RobsReefs Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lodi Ca. Posts: 714	how about my N03 12.5mg/l=12.5ppm????? or so iv heard please correct me __________________ I Love This Hobby!!!! Current Tank Info: 180g BB Acrylic SPS Tank 4'x3'x2' 42g sump, Tunze Wavebox, 3 large prop MJ mods, "My Large diy skimmer", Velocity T3 Return Pump, 250w 20k Radium's in Lumenarc's 2 39w Giesemann Actinic+, Neptune Systems AquaController.....

10/05/2006, 09:03 PM	#15
sir_dudeguy Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 10,841	ppm and mg/l are not the same thing i dont think...i'll see if i can find anything on that...but if they are the same, then 12 would not be that bad of a number, but should be brought down below 10... __________________ TAKE...LUCK!!!

10/05/2006, 09:05 PM	#17
RobsReefs Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lodi Ca. Posts: 714	so 10 ppm N03 is ideal __________________ I Love This Hobby!!!! Current Tank Info: 180g BB Acrylic SPS Tank 4'x3'x2' 42g sump, Tunze Wavebox, 3 large prop MJ mods, "My Large diy skimmer", Velocity T3 Return Pump, 250w 20k Radium's in Lumenarc's 2 39w Giesemann Actinic+, Neptune Systems AquaController.....

10/05/2006, 09:23 PM	#19
RobsReefs Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lodi Ca. Posts: 714	thank you your a big help __________________ I Love This Hobby!!!! Current Tank Info: 180g BB Acrylic SPS Tank 4'x3'x2' 42g sump, Tunze Wavebox, 3 large prop MJ mods, "My Large diy skimmer", Velocity T3 Return Pump, 250w 20k Radium's in Lumenarc's 2 39w Giesemann Actinic+, Neptune Systems AquaController.....