Fish Trapped In Sump!!! Help

Gluestick · 11/01/2006, 09:35 PM

I have an AGA megaflow sump, model 3, and there is a small damsel trapped in the first chamberthis is a diagram
http://www.all-glass.com/products/fe...dex_left.shtml
only the one in the pics is a model 4
there is NO way I can get him out (to my knowledge)
what do I do?!?!?!?
He must have been in there for weeks!!!

saltwater_wannabe · 11/01/2006, 09:51 PM

there must be some way to dismantle the sump, or at least pull out the return pipes and pull him out. I'm not familiar with your particular sump so I'm not much help.

I hope you can get him out!

dcombs44 · 11/01/2006, 09:52 PM

Make sure that he is getting food some how and then call All-Glass.

Gluestick · 11/01/2006, 09:54 PM

the yellow goby, which this happened to awhile ago, was smart enough to swim to the top and go over the flow into the filter sock. He wasn't in there for long, maybe an hour before we found him. This booger though has been in there for nearly a month! I just found him today!!!

Tbduval · 11/01/2006, 09:56 PM

Is it the part where the plumbing is in the pic? If so, why cant you unscrew the bulkheads? I am trying to make it out with that pic. Can you send us a pic of yours and show us where they are located? Good luck.

Gluestick · 11/01/2006, 10:04 PM

i don't have a pic. but yes it is where the plumbing is. i only have one bulkhead instead of two like in that pic. it is such a skinny area that if I did detach the plumbing I have no idea how I would get it out anyway

Tbduval · 11/01/2006, 10:13 PM

I understand that now. I looked at the site better. The only thing I can think of is, drain the sump but save the water. Make sure there is still water in there for the fish. Unscrew the bulkhead and turn the sump upside down. Trying to get the fish out of the hole. Make sure you use new buckets or a trashcan. Do not use anything that had chemicals in it. Thats from the top of my head. If you look at it, you maybe able to do it better!

Also, email AGA. They may have a better solution. I thought they would have thought of that. My Damsel seems to love the thrill of the overflow into the sump. I put him back in the tank at least every few months. Keep me post!

Gluestick · 11/01/2006, 10:15 PM

Lol, well I was hoping I wouldn't have to resort to that. But my hubby and I have been trying everything. We've been trying to scare him to the top so that he goes over the overflow thingy. Thanks for your help
Valerie

Tbduval · 11/01/2006, 10:18 PM

I just thought of something. Can you get any food in there? Maybe he will swim to the top for some food? And just maybe into the filter sock? It is just a thought.

wrott · 11/01/2006, 10:21 PM

I think you could bend a net every which way and snag his *** out of there---may take a hour though.

Tbduval · 11/01/2006, 10:23 PM

I tried that once. I dont know who was more tired, me or the fish. Thats worth a shot.

Gluestick · 11/02/2006, 07:31 PM

i'm just going to take this opportunity to stop procrastination and build a new/bigger sump with a fuge in it and dump him out. thanks for the suggestions, but it's just not worth it.

vair · 11/02/2006, 08:54 PM

Take the bulk head out, get the biggest hose that can fit in there and siphon him out. Then work on you new sump.

Dave

11/01/2006, 09:35 PM	#1
Gluestick Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Joliet, IL Posts: 1,710	Fish Trapped In Sump!!! Help I have an AGA megaflow sump, model 3, and there is a small damsel trapped in the first chamberthis is a diagram http://www.all-glass.com/products/fe...dex_left.shtml only the one in the pics is a model 4 there is NO way I can get him out (to my knowledge) what do I do?!?!?!? He must have been in there for weeks!!!

11/01/2006, 09:52 PM	#3
dcombs44 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 2,913	Make sure that he is getting food some how and then call All-Glass. __________________ Current Setup: 10 Gallon Skimmerless Zoanthid Tank Lighting: Single 175 Watt Metal Halide (14,000 K Hamilton Lamp) Filtration: 10 gallon sump/refugium and Phosban Reactor Return: Mag Drive 700 Controller: ReefKeeper Lite (Basic Version) Circulation: TBD Age of System: Build is in Progress

11/01/2006, 09:54 PM	#4
Gluestick Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Joliet, IL Posts: 1,710	the yellow goby, which this happened to awhile ago, was smart enough to swim to the top and go over the flow into the filter sock. He wasn't in there for long, maybe an hour before we found him. This booger though has been in there for nearly a month! I just found him today!!! __________________ Valerie R. Burns Founder/Vice President Joliet Area Reef Club Current Tank Info: 90 gal SPS dominated, ASM-G2 skimmer, 2x250w 20k SE Radium bulbs under Lumenarc Mini Reflectors

11/01/2006, 10:04 PM	#6
Gluestick Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Joliet, IL Posts: 1,710	i don't have a pic. but yes it is where the plumbing is. i only have one bulkhead instead of two like in that pic. it is such a skinny area that if I did detach the plumbing I have no idea how I would get it out anyway __________________ Valerie R. Burns Founder/Vice President Joliet Area Reef Club Current Tank Info: 90 gal SPS dominated, ASM-G2 skimmer, 2x250w 20k SE Radium bulbs under Lumenarc Mini Reflectors

11/01/2006, 10:15 PM	#8
Gluestick Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Joliet, IL Posts: 1,710	Lol, well I was hoping I wouldn't have to resort to that. But my hubby and I have been trying everything. We've been trying to scare him to the top so that he goes over the overflow thingy. Thanks for your help Valerie __________________ Valerie R. Burns Founder/Vice President Joliet Area Reef Club Current Tank Info: 90 gal SPS dominated, ASM-G2 skimmer, 2x250w 20k SE Radium bulbs under Lumenarc Mini Reflectors

11/01/2006, 09:51 PM	#2
saltwater_wannabe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 63	there must be some way to dismantle the sump, or at least pull out the return pipes and pull him out. I'm not familiar with your particular sump so I'm not much help. I hope you can get him out!

11/01/2006, 09:56 PM	#5
Tbduval Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 369	Is it the part where the plumbing is in the pic? If so, why cant you unscrew the bulkheads? I am trying to make it out with that pic. Can you send us a pic of yours and show us where they are located? Good luck.

11/01/2006, 10:13 PM	#7
Tbduval Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 369	I understand that now. I looked at the site better. The only thing I can think of is, drain the sump but save the water. Make sure there is still water in there for the fish. Unscrew the bulkhead and turn the sump upside down. Trying to get the fish out of the hole. Make sure you use new buckets or a trashcan. Do not use anything that had chemicals in it. Thats from the top of my head. If you look at it, you maybe able to do it better! Also, email AGA. They may have a better solution. I thought they would have thought of that. My Damsel seems to love the thrill of the overflow into the sump. I put him back in the tank at least every few months. Keep me post!

11/01/2006, 10:18 PM	#9
Tbduval Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 369	I just thought of something. Can you get any food in there? Maybe he will swim to the top for some food? And just maybe into the filter sock? It is just a thought.

11/01/2006, 10:21 PM	#10
wrott Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,912	I think you could bend a net every which way and snag his *** out of there---may take a hour though. __________________ OK, but where does the meat go! ------------------------------------------------ 120g SPS, 125g mix, 56g FOWLR, 20g qt

11/01/2006, 10:23 PM	#11
Tbduval Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 369	I tried that once. I dont know who was more tired, me or the fish. Thats worth a shot.

11/02/2006, 07:31 PM	#12
Gluestick Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Joliet, IL Posts: 1,710	i'm just going to take this opportunity to stop procrastination and build a new/bigger sump with a fuge in it and dump him out. thanks for the suggestions, but it's just not worth it. __________________ Valerie R. Burns Founder/Vice President Joliet Area Reef Club Current Tank Info: 90 gal SPS dominated, ASM-G2 skimmer, 2x250w 20k SE Radium bulbs under Lumenarc Mini Reflectors

11/02/2006, 08:54 PM	#13
vair Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Alberta Posts: 465	Take the bulk head out, get the biggest hose that can fit in there and siphon him out. Then work on you new sump. Dave __________________ Dave --------------------------------- Really I like my bare bottom. "go snowboarding" www.sourceboards.com Current Tank Info: Building a in wall 300G reef tank.