Suggestions for reef safe fish

rockethead · 12/11/2006, 05:19 PM

I have two Maroon Clown fish, two Blue Hippo Tangs, a Royal Gramma and a Lawn Mower Blenny. I also have some Pulsing Xenia, Kenya Tree and Green Star Polyps. Is there a dwarf angel that is safe to keep in this tank? Also does anyone have any other suggestions of a reasonably hardy fish that would go well in this tank. The details of the tank itself are below in my signature.

Sk8r · 12/11/2006, 05:29 PM

You could probably do with 30 more pounds of rock, though if that refugium is doing it for you, bravo.

Angels are almost on a per specimen basis as to whether they'll pick at corals. I've had a wellbehaved coral beauty, in the past.

I'd suggest maybe a flasher wrasse, Carpenters, maybe a trio of blue chromis.

cooper9177 · 12/11/2006, 05:34 PM

a school of chromis is always a good addition to a reef.
a foxface rabbit fish.

DSMpunk · 12/11/2006, 05:39 PM

If you dont have any clams you could try a flame angel. Kinda hit or miss if they are reef safe or not.

Shekki · 12/11/2006, 07:09 PM

Hey Salt Lake!

Get a Sargassum Trigger. Reef safe and gets along with everyone.

Robb

burgessj · 12/11/2006, 09:19 PM

I have a few suggestions:

1) Longfin Bannerfish (Heniochus acuminatus). Really cool looking, and nice black and white color.

2) Orange Firefish (Nemateleotris magnifica) or my personal favourite... the Purple Firefish (Nemateleotris decora). If I can ever find a LFS that has one for sale, I will buy it. Only time I have ever seen one was in a show tank, and the guy wanted $100 + and extra $50 to "Get it out of there". Jerks.

As for angles, I have heard that the Flame Angel (Centropyge loricula) can be reef safe, but as someone said before... It's kinda hit and miss with angels.

Jon

rockethead · 12/12/2006, 05:03 PM

Well, thanks for all the suggestions. I will probably stay away from the Angels and look for some of your other ideas at the LFS.

HBtank · 12/12/2006, 05:40 PM

Fairy Wrasse and Flasher Wrasse are both awesome. My new fav.

I think that the royal gramma may not like them though...

2swift · 12/12/2006, 06:56 PM

Another vote for a red and or purple fire fish.

ToTaLCHaoS13 · 12/13/2006, 09:09 AM

I like my blackcap basslett, and he gets along fine with my royal gramma. What about a 6-line wrasse, or a scooter blenny, or a mandarinfish...

GreyDC · 12/13/2006, 09:29 AM

Hit or miss is definitely key with dwarf angels......I had a potters angel which did really well but lost it to a jumping incident. (Had the glass open for a feeding and went in the other room....jumped out and behind the tank) As long as you feed them well, more than likely they wont pick at your SPS......or at least that was my case.....

GMAX · 12/13/2006, 10:06 AM

A school of anthias could be cool and would not put a huge strain on your 90 gallon. I would echo that comment that you may want to increase your live rock to at least 1 lb per gallon. Its is your first filtration system for keeping your reef clean.

RichConley · 12/13/2006, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DSMpunk
If you dont have any clams you could try a flame angel. Kinda hit or miss if they are reef safe or not.

We've had this survey 5 or 6 times now.

80%+ of people who've had them say completely safe.

RichConley · 12/13/2006, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GMAX
A school of anthias could be cool and would not put a huge strain on your 90 gallon. I would echo that comment that you may want to increase your live rock to at least 1 lb per gallon. Its is your first filtration system for keeping your reef clean.

Liverock is overrated. Your skimmer is your first line of filtration. Leaning heavily on liverock leads to saturated live rock, and algae.

Theres a reason some people need to cook their rock: They've been leaning too heavily on it, and its full of phosphate.

I've got a whole bunch of good sized fish in my 58, and have no algea with my 40 or so lbs of live rock. Less rock means better flow, which means better skimming.

DSMpunk · 12/13/2006, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RichConley
We've had this survey 5 or 6 times now.

80%+ of people who've had them say completely safe.

Really? Well maybe I just had bad luck then. I had one that nipped at my clam mantels but it left everything else alone. Maybe Ill try another one

mpoletti · 12/13/2006, 11:23 AM

MY buddy keeps a Potters angel in his tank. What about a Flame hawk?

rockethead · 12/28/2006, 12:16 PM

Well, with the assurance of the owner of our lfs I went ahead tried a Bicolor Pygmy Angel. It has been in my tank for over a week now and I have had no problems. Angel and Corals are all happy.

Rhodesholar · 12/28/2006, 08:05 PM

You can try a Millet Seed Butterfly. They are one of the safest butterflys for the reef tank. I have one and as long as he is not starving he doesn't bother anything. Your results may very.

Check it out.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...cfm?pCatId=258

xian · 12/28/2006, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rockethead
Well, with the assurance of the owner of our lfs I went ahead tried a Bicolor Pygmy Angel. It has been in my tank for over a week now and I have had no problems. Angel and Corals are all happy.

How is it doing?

I've had terrible luck with these. Wouldn't eat

rockethead · 01/02/2007, 10:44 AM

He is doing great. He has been eating flake food daily with the rest of the fish. I have also seen him eat some mysis shrimp and formula one which I feed occasionally. He has not bothered any of my corals or other fish still.

12/11/2006, 05:19 PM	#1
rockethead Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Salt Lake City, UT area Posts: 125	Suggestions for reef safe fish I have two Maroon Clown fish, two Blue Hippo Tangs, a Royal Gramma and a Lawn Mower Blenny. I also have some Pulsing Xenia, Kenya Tree and Green Star Polyps. Is there a dwarf angel that is safe to keep in this tank? Also does anyone have any other suggestions of a reasonably hardy fish that would go well in this tank. The details of the tank itself are below in my signature.

12/11/2006, 05:29 PM	#2
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	You could probably do with 30 more pounds of rock, though if that refugium is doing it for you, bravo. Angels are almost on a per specimen basis as to whether they'll pick at corals. I've had a wellbehaved coral beauty, in the past. I'd suggest maybe a flasher wrasse, Carpenters, maybe a trio of blue chromis. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

12/11/2006, 05:34 PM	#3
cooper9177 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jefferson, Ga. Posts: 98	a school of chromis is always a good addition to a reef. a foxface rabbit fish. __________________ 240g sps (in the begining stages) 150g mixed reef 125g sps 46g bow chiclid 25g planted f/w 24g nano reef Current Tank Info: fully stocked, various corals and fish

12/11/2006, 05:39 PM	#4
DSMpunk Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Des Moines IA Posts: 1,064	If you dont have any clams you could try a flame angel. Kinda hit or miss if they are reef safe or not. __________________ -Sean Current Tank Info: SPS Dominated 150

12/11/2006, 07:09 PM	#5
Shekki Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ocean City, MD Posts: 651	Hey Salt Lake! Get a Sargassum Trigger. Reef safe and gets along with everyone. Robb __________________ Elos mini reef Current Tank Info: Elos mini, reefkeeper 2, Vortech MP20, ice cap moonlight, Reef Fanatic ATO

12/11/2006, 09:19 PM	#6
burgessj Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 27	I have a few suggestions: 1) Longfin Bannerfish (Heniochus acuminatus). Really cool looking, and nice black and white color. 2) Orange Firefish (Nemateleotris magnifica) or my personal favourite... the Purple Firefish (Nemateleotris decora). If I can ever find a LFS that has one for sale, I will buy it. Only time I have ever seen one was in a show tank, and the guy wanted $100 + and extra $50 to "Get it out of there". Jerks. As for angles, I have heard that the Flame Angel (Centropyge loricula) can be reef safe, but as someone said before... It's kinda hit and miss with angels. Jon

12/12/2006, 05:03 PM	#7
rockethead Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Salt Lake City, UT area Posts: 125	Well, thanks for all the suggestions. I will probably stay away from the Angels and look for some of your other ideas at the LFS.

12/12/2006, 05:40 PM	#8
HBtank Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 2,957	Fairy Wrasse and Flasher Wrasse are both awesome. My new fav. I think that the royal gramma may not like them though... __________________ 80g Aiptasia dominated reef tank.. with fish and now a bunch of berghia! Current Tank Info: 80g tank, re-starting a reef after a zoanthid nudibranch plauge, followed by months of steady and unstoppable STN/RTN, crashed; stayed FOWLR for a couple years, currently an aiptasia dominated reef tank with fishies and BERGHIA

12/12/2006, 06:56 PM	#9
2swift Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ruskin,FLA Posts: 876	Another vote for a red and or purple fire fish. __________________ Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Current Tank Info: 150g with twin FX4 canisters-Jebao 90Wave maker-2 AQUASKY Fluval Lights-AquaMaxx TS-2 Sulfur Denitrator

12/13/2006, 09:09 AM	#10
ToTaLCHaoS13 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cartersville, GA Posts: 379	I like my blackcap basslett, and he gets along fine with my royal gramma. What about a 6-line wrasse, or a scooter blenny, or a mandarinfish...

12/13/2006, 09:29 AM	#11
GreyDC Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Washington DC Posts: 261	Hit or miss is definitely key with dwarf angels......I had a potters angel which did really well but lost it to a jumping incident. (Had the glass open for a feeding and went in the other room....jumped out and behind the tank) As long as you feed them well, more than likely they wont pick at your SPS......or at least that was my case.....

12/13/2006, 10:06 AM	#12
GMAX Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DFW Posts: 839	A school of anthias could be cool and would not put a huge strain on your 90 gallon. I would echo that comment that you may want to increase your live rock to at least 1 lb per gallon. Its is your first filtration system for keeping your reef clean.

12/13/2006, 11:23 AM	#16
mpoletti You'll never walk alone Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 18,245	MY buddy keeps a Potters angel in his tank. What about a Flame hawk? __________________ -Mark a.) I believe... The curse is a reality b.) Fish poop is your friend c.) Why chase numbers? #CoralsLiketoDisco #ReefSerenity

12/28/2006, 12:16 PM	#17
rockethead Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Salt Lake City, UT area Posts: 125	Got an Angel Well, with the assurance of the owner of our lfs I went ahead tried a Bicolor Pygmy Angel. It has been in my tank for over a week now and I have had no problems. Angel and Corals are all happy.

12/28/2006, 08:05 PM	#18
Rhodesholar Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Crivitz Wi Posts: 754	You can try a Millet Seed Butterfly. They are one of the safest butterflys for the reef tank. I have one and as long as he is not starving he doesn't bother anything. Your results may very. Check it out. http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...cfm?pCatId=258

01/02/2007, 10:44 AM	#20
rockethead Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Salt Lake City, UT area Posts: 125	He is doing great. He has been eating flake food daily with the rest of the fish. I have also seen him eat some mysis shrimp and formula one which I feed occasionally. He has not bothered any of my corals or other fish still.