What Makes Mushrooms Melt?

spanglish · 01/11/2007, 08:25 PM

My blue mushrooms (and one green ric that was touching
them )have melted.

This was yesterday when it started . This morning the ones
on the right were shrunk and covered with the "mucus"
seen on the left. When I got home from work they were
almost all gone. I removed rock from tank and later noticed
the small green ric at left has also melted.

The other ricordia and other shrooms all seem fine (as does
everything).

these blues were one of the oldest rocks in my tank.

Only change in water this week is add of ca.

Any thoughts?

spanglish · 01/11/2007, 09:07 PM

Anyone?

spanglish · 01/11/2007, 09:08 PM

On a lighter note, I got some new zoanthids.

jmack · 01/11/2007, 09:27 PM

check your calcium

spanglish · 01/11/2007, 09:42 PM

Are you suggesting it's high? It was 375 when I treated.

spanglish · 01/11/2007, 09:43 PM

I will check.

supertech3 · 01/11/2007, 10:01 PM

what did you dose the tank with?(product)did yor ph change from before the dose?

Henry Bowman · 01/11/2007, 10:09 PM

Calcium has nothing to do with discoma or ricordea mushrooms (or very little if any at all). These mushrooms do seem to be prone to bacterial infections. Did they touch any other corals in the time before this happened? They can also be affected by alleopathy (chemical warfare) within the tank. Leather corals are some of the more toxic ones. Just ensure you run carbon for in a filter and change it regularly.

I hope you are using RO water?

badgerlaw · 01/11/2007, 10:17 PM

Have you changed your lighting in any manner. I noticed that when I went from 175MH to 250MH my mushrooms melted and would not grow back.

Joshua1023 · 01/11/2007, 10:20 PM

I've heard of that happening after adding a phosphate pillow to the sump and yanking all of the phosphate out to quickly. It seems that they are prone to any quick drastic water parameter changes.

xtm · 01/11/2007, 11:37 PM

Calcium??? You're kidding right? I've seen mushrooms melt when temperature reaches 84+ What is your temp right now?

spanglish · 01/12/2007, 08:16 AM

Temp steady at 79F to 81F
I'm having a senior moment as to product name but
PH held steady.
I checked calcium and it is 410 (an increase of 35 from
before treatment). Could a jump like that do it?

onereefnotenuf · 01/12/2007, 08:43 AM

heat will melt them. i know all too well. above 83(depending on the accuracy of the thermometer) will kill some. i don't know which species are more prone to this but some are.

spanglish · 01/12/2007, 08:59 AM

It's like they circulated a little memo saying,
" We will self destruct in 24 hours"

All of that colony nuked and other similar shrooms in tank
are just fine.

rachelcb80 · 01/12/2007, 10:35 AM

Don't know this from experience but I have read (The Conscientious Marine Aquarist) that a lack of iodine can cause mushrooms to melt.

Rachel

Navyblue · 01/12/2007, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xtm
CI've seen mushrooms melt when temperature reaches 84+

So, I see that mushrooms have a melting point.

rustybucket145 · 01/12/2007, 10:40 AM

I was gonna say..... usually some butter and garlic! but you were talking about the other kind of mushroom!!

spanglish · 01/12/2007, 09:32 PM

I have not been dosing with iodine.

spanglish · 01/12/2007, 09:51 PM

I had read some "anti lugols iodine" posts a couple of
months ago and meant to buy another. I dosed with lugols tonight. I don't think it can hurt.

01/11/2007, 08:25 PM	#1
spanglish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 788	What Makes Mushrooms Melt? My blue mushrooms (and one green ric that was touching them )have melted. This was yesterday when it started . This morning the ones on the right were shrunk and covered with the "mucus" seen on the left. When I got home from work they were almost all gone. I removed rock from tank and later noticed the small green ric at left has also melted. The other ricordia and other shrooms all seem fine (as does everything). these blues were one of the oldest rocks in my tank. Only change in water this week is add of ca. Any thoughts? __________________ " I quit drinking weeks ago! No one noticed, but I guess that's a pretty good indicator that I conducted myself quite well when I was drunk. " Current Tank Info: 90 G Bowfront, 30G refugium,T5's,Euroreef 100,1 true perc, 1false black, 1 ember blenny,Eight Line Flasher Wrasse, Mandarin,various LPS

01/11/2007, 09:07 PM	#2
spanglish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 788	Anyone? __________________ " I quit drinking weeks ago! No one noticed, but I guess that's a pretty good indicator that I conducted myself quite well when I was drunk. " Current Tank Info: 90 G Bowfront, 30G refugium,T5's,Euroreef 100,1 true perc, 1false black, 1 ember blenny,Eight Line Flasher Wrasse, Mandarin,various LPS

01/11/2007, 09:08 PM	#3
spanglish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 788	On a lighter note, I got some new zoanthids. __________________ " I quit drinking weeks ago! No one noticed, but I guess that's a pretty good indicator that I conducted myself quite well when I was drunk. " Current Tank Info: 90 G Bowfront, 30G refugium,T5's,Euroreef 100,1 true perc, 1false black, 1 ember blenny,Eight Line Flasher Wrasse, Mandarin,various LPS

01/11/2007, 09:42 PM	#5
spanglish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 788	Are you suggesting it's high? It was 375 when I treated. __________________ " I quit drinking weeks ago! No one noticed, but I guess that's a pretty good indicator that I conducted myself quite well when I was drunk. " Current Tank Info: 90 G Bowfront, 30G refugium,T5's,Euroreef 100,1 true perc, 1false black, 1 ember blenny,Eight Line Flasher Wrasse, Mandarin,various LPS

01/11/2007, 09:43 PM	#6
spanglish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 788	I will check. __________________ " I quit drinking weeks ago! No one noticed, but I guess that's a pretty good indicator that I conducted myself quite well when I was drunk. " Current Tank Info: 90 G Bowfront, 30G refugium,T5's,Euroreef 100,1 true perc, 1false black, 1 ember blenny,Eight Line Flasher Wrasse, Mandarin,various LPS

01/11/2007, 09:27 PM	#4
jmack Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NV Posts: 1,060	check your calcium

01/11/2007, 10:01 PM	#7
supertech3 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: El Paso Posts: 1,206	what did you dose the tank with?(product)did yor ph change from before the dose?

01/11/2007, 10:09 PM	#8
Henry Bowman Reefing since '87 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Allegheny Mountains of VA Posts: 2,162	Calcium has nothing to do with discoma or ricordea mushrooms (or very little if any at all). These mushrooms do seem to be prone to bacterial infections. Did they touch any other corals in the time before this happened? They can also be affected by alleopathy (chemical warfare) within the tank. Leather corals are some of the more toxic ones. Just ensure you run carbon for in a filter and change it regularly. I hope you are using RO water? __________________ Have a good'un Current Tank Info: 90 gl SPS dominant / upgrade in the works

01/11/2007, 10:17 PM	#9
badgerlaw Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SOCAL Posts: 247	Have you changed your lighting in any manner. I noticed that when I went from 175MH to 250MH my mushrooms melted and would not grow back.

01/11/2007, 10:20 PM	#10
Joshua1023 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reading PA Posts: 1,526	I've heard of that happening after adding a phosphate pillow to the sump and yanking all of the phosphate out to quickly. It seems that they are prone to any quick drastic water parameter changes. __________________ Only bad things happen fast. Only bad thing happen fast. Only bad things happen fast. Man,I'm friggen hard-headed!!! Current Tank Info: 90 gl tank,Coralife 14K MH lights,2 Current dual daylight/actinic 40 watt fixtures, tidepool sump,Coralife SS 220 protein skimmer,six inch sand bed w/ plenum, Current Prime Tower 1/3 hp Chiller,RedSea ozonizer w/ orp

01/11/2007, 11:37 PM	#11
xtm Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Panorama City, CA Posts: 4,703	Calcium??? You're kidding right? I've seen mushrooms melt when temperature reaches 84+ What is your temp right now? __________________ Function before fashion Current Tank Info: 120g SPS Tank (48x24x24)

01/12/2007, 08:16 AM	#12
spanglish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 788	Temp steady at 79F to 81F I'm having a senior moment as to product name but PH held steady. I checked calcium and it is 410 (an increase of 35 from before treatment). Could a jump like that do it? __________________ " I quit drinking weeks ago! No one noticed, but I guess that's a pretty good indicator that I conducted myself quite well when I was drunk. " Current Tank Info: 90 G Bowfront, 30G refugium,T5's,Euroreef 100,1 true perc, 1false black, 1 ember blenny,Eight Line Flasher Wrasse, Mandarin,various LPS

01/12/2007, 08:43 AM	#13
onereefnotenuf Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hamilton,Ohio Posts: 295	heat will melt them. i know all too well. above 83(depending on the accuracy of the thermometer) will kill some. i don't know which species are more prone to this but some are.

01/12/2007, 08:59 AM	#14
spanglish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 788	It's like they circulated a little memo saying, " We will self destruct in 24 hours" All of that colony nuked and other similar shrooms in tank are just fine. __________________ " I quit drinking weeks ago! No one noticed, but I guess that's a pretty good indicator that I conducted myself quite well when I was drunk. " Current Tank Info: 90 G Bowfront, 30G refugium,T5's,Euroreef 100,1 true perc, 1false black, 1 ember blenny,Eight Line Flasher Wrasse, Mandarin,various LPS

01/12/2007, 10:35 AM	#15
rachelcb80 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jackson, MS Posts: 468	Don't know this from experience but I have read (The Conscientious Marine Aquarist) that a lack of iodine can cause mushrooms to melt. Rachel

01/12/2007, 10:40 AM	#17
rustybucket145 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: valdosta, ga Posts: 3,707	I was gonna say..... usually some butter and garlic! but you were talking about the other kind of mushroom!! __________________ 400gals of various tanks in the same system. Current Tank Info: 2 175w MH, 2 VH0 Actinics, Lots of Live Rock, tons of copepods, a Fat Mandarin Goby, Niger Trigger, Yellow Tang, Falco Hawkfish, Bi-Color Pseudo, numerous soft, SPS and LPS Corals

01/12/2007, 09:32 PM	#18
spanglish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 788	I have not been dosing with iodine. __________________ " I quit drinking weeks ago! No one noticed, but I guess that's a pretty good indicator that I conducted myself quite well when I was drunk. " Current Tank Info: 90 G Bowfront, 30G refugium,T5's,Euroreef 100,1 true perc, 1false black, 1 ember blenny,Eight Line Flasher Wrasse, Mandarin,various LPS

01/12/2007, 09:51 PM	#19
spanglish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 788	I had read some "anti lugols iodine" posts a couple of months ago and meant to buy another. I dosed with lugols tonight. I don't think it can hurt. __________________ " I quit drinking weeks ago! No one noticed, but I guess that's a pretty good indicator that I conducted myself quite well when I was drunk. " Current Tank Info: 90 G Bowfront, 30G refugium,T5's,Euroreef 100,1 true perc, 1false black, 1 ember blenny,Eight Line Flasher Wrasse, Mandarin,various LPS