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UH_OH_5_OH · 01/17/2007, 07:33 PM

How much live rock should I have in there !???!

This is a shot of my tank.....and I am wondering if this is enough LR to combat the green algae growing on the back of the glass !???

In this picture it looks kind of olive brown....on the back glass ! I am running a phosban reactor and I just changed out the media about 3 weeks ago. I don't overfeed so I can't figure out if the amount of LR I have is part of the problem !!!

Help !

Gundo5000 · 01/17/2007, 09:12 PM

I dont think its an LR problem.

Do you use RO, RODI?
When did you last change your bulbs?
How much flow do you have?
Are you dosing anything?

Gundo5000 · 01/17/2007, 09:16 PM

It also looks like that tank may get direct sunlight from the left?

If so this could be the problem w/ the algae.

frederickk · 01/18/2007, 09:03 AM

What are your params at?

If you want to get rid of your hair algae you can always use some mexican turbo snails.

UH_OH_5_OH · 01/18/2007, 09:10 PM

Though you probably can't tell from there...the left side of the tank end is covered by backing ! And the light coming in is actually pretty limited....I just opened it up so I could get a good picture of the algae !!!

Sorry about that ! I meant to add my parameters:

NH3, NO2, NO3, PO4 are all at ZERO !
KH-6*
pH-8.1
Ca-456
SG-1.022

Gundo5000 · 01/18/2007, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by algundo
I dont think its an LR problem.

Do you use RO, RODI?
When did you last change your bulbs?
How much flow do you have?
Are you dosing anything?

Gundo5000 · 01/18/2007, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by algundo
I dont think its an LR problem.

Do you use RO, RODI?
When did you last change your bulbs?
How much flow do you have?
Are you dosing anything?

bertoni · 01/18/2007, 10:25 PM

The dKH should be at least 7. Fixing that might help. The SG is very low. I target 1.026-1.027. This article covers all the water parameters:

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rhf/index.php

The basic guess would that the tank needs about 135 lbs live rock. How much is in there?

drummereef · 01/18/2007, 10:29 PM

I agree with Bertoni. Target your alk at 7-11dkh. SLOWLY raise the salinity and get it up around 1.026. Read the article given.

If you are using the live rock for filtration purposes, then 1-2lb/gallon is a good amount.

UH_OH_5_OH · 01/27/2007, 09:29 AM

Thank you again everyone !

drummereef · 01/27/2007, 10:50 AM

The algae issue is probably from excess nutrients. A good quality test kit, like Salifert, will help. Test for nitrates and phosphates. Need to get to the root of the problem to eliminate the hair algae for good.

What do you use for filtration?

GSMguy · 01/27/2007, 12:16 PM

i think some more live rock would help your tank take up nutrients
think about a skimmer upgrade

UH_OH_5_OH · 01/27/2007, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drummereef
The algae issue is probably from excess nutrients. A good quality test kit, like Salifert, will help. Test for nitrates and phosphates. Need to get to the root of the problem to eliminate the hair algae for good.

What do you use for filtration?

The Hair Algae is not a problem for me. I have just a little bit in my HOB but not in the main tank. The algae is short and green and isn't a problem on the rock just on the back glass !

The filtration is a refugium and also a ASM G2 Protein Skimmer that runs very well and pulls plenty of skimmate !

WaterKeeper · 01/27/2007, 03:36 PM

I think you are moving in the right direction using a phosphate sponge. It would also help to run a mechanical filter and scrape the rear glass. That would catch the loose algae and harvest nutrients. The tank is not stocked all that heavy so the phosphate should be reduced in short order.

UH_OH_5_OH · 01/27/2007, 04:26 PM

Well this is how she looks now !!! I added about 60 lbs of LR !

UH_OH_5_OH · 01/27/2007, 04:28 PM

So do you think running a Hot Magnum while I scrape the algae would help get rid of alot of the back glass crap growing back there?

MarineFiend · 01/27/2007, 04:33 PM

Check out the Phosphate levels, I bet they are high

This is the main cause of green algae

mjm1969 · 01/27/2007, 05:01 PM

Beautiful job on on the aquascaping. Good luck on the algae...

WaterKeeper · 01/27/2007, 05:23 PM

Srape away as removing plant life is part of nutrient export.

UH_OH_5_OH · 01/27/2007, 06:57 PM

Okay I have been running a Phosban Reactor for 2-3 months now and I did see an almost immediate reaction from the little bit of hair algae I did have in the tank...it's gone !

I replace my phos media every 6 weeks !

01/17/2007, 07:33 PM	#1
UH_OH_5_OH Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,184	135.... How much live rock should I have in there !???! This is a shot of my tank.....and I am wondering if this is enough LR to combat the green algae growing on the back of the glass !??? In this picture it looks kind of olive brown....on the back glass ! I am running a phosban reactor and I just changed out the media about 3 weeks ago. I don't overfeed so I can't figure out if the amount of LR I have is part of the problem !!! Help ! __________________ Life is hard; it's alot harder if you're stupid ! Current Tank Info: None !

01/17/2007, 09:12 PM	#2
Gundo5000 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,534	I dont think its an LR problem. Do you use RO, RODI? When did you last change your bulbs? How much flow do you have? Are you dosing anything? __________________ GUNDO

01/17/2007, 09:16 PM	#3
Gundo5000 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,534	It also looks like that tank may get direct sunlight from the left? If so this could be the problem w/ the algae. __________________ GUNDO

01/18/2007, 09:10 PM	#5
UH_OH_5_OH Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,184	Though you probably can't tell from there...the left side of the tank end is covered by backing ! And the light coming in is actually pretty limited....I just opened it up so I could get a good picture of the algae !!! Sorry about that ! I meant to add my parameters: NH3, NO2, NO3, PO4 are all at ZERO ! KH-6* pH-8.1 Ca-456 SG-1.022 __________________ Life is hard; it's alot harder if you're stupid ! Current Tank Info: None !

01/18/2007, 10:25 PM	#8
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	The dKH should be at least 7. Fixing that might help. The SG is very low. I target 1.026-1.027. This article covers all the water parameters: http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-05/rhf/index.php The basic guess would that the tank needs about 135 lbs live rock. How much is in there? __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

01/18/2007, 09:03 AM	#4
frederickk Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,712	What are your params at? If you want to get rid of your hair algae you can always use some mexican turbo snails.

01/18/2007, 10:29 PM	#9
drummereef Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: STL Posts: 14,754	I agree with Bertoni. Target your alk at 7-11dkh. SLOWLY raise the salinity and get it up around 1.026. Read the article given. If you are using the live rock for filtration purposes, then 1-2lb/gallon is a good amount. __________________ -Brett 180g Marineland Starfire In-Wall 278 gallon system

01/27/2007, 09:29 AM	#10
UH_OH_5_OH Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,184	Thank you again everyone ! __________________ Life is hard; it's alot harder if you're stupid ! Current Tank Info: None !

01/27/2007, 10:50 AM	#11
drummereef Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: STL Posts: 14,754	The algae issue is probably from excess nutrients. A good quality test kit, like Salifert, will help. Test for nitrates and phosphates. Need to get to the root of the problem to eliminate the hair algae for good. What do you use for filtration? __________________ -Brett 180g Marineland Starfire In-Wall 278 gallon system

01/27/2007, 12:16 PM	#12
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	i think some more live rock would help your tank take up nutrients think about a skimmer upgrade __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.

01/27/2007, 03:36 PM	#14
WaterKeeper Bogus Information Expert Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 16,147	I think you are moving in the right direction using a phosphate sponge. It would also help to run a mechanical filter and scrape the rear glass. That would catch the loose algae and harvest nutrients. The tank is not stocked all that heavy so the phosphate should be reduced in short order. __________________ "Leading the information hungry reefer down the road to starvation" Tom Current Tank Info: 130 Now out of service and a 29

01/27/2007, 04:26 PM	#15
UH_OH_5_OH Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,184	Well this is how she looks now !!! I added about 60 lbs of LR ! __________________ Life is hard; it's alot harder if you're stupid ! Current Tank Info: None !

01/27/2007, 04:28 PM	#16
UH_OH_5_OH Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,184	So do you think running a Hot Magnum while I scrape the algae would help get rid of alot of the back glass crap growing back there? __________________ Life is hard; it's alot harder if you're stupid ! Current Tank Info: None !

01/27/2007, 04:33 PM	#17
MarineFiend I have SomeTimers Join Date: May 2001 Location: Toronto,Ontario, Canada Posts: 183	Check out the Phosphate levels, I bet they are high This is the main cause of green algae __________________ "There he stands, draped in more equipment than a telephone lineman, trying to outwit an organism with a brain no bigger than a bread crumb, and getting licked in the process.." - Paul O'Neil Current Tank Info: 135 Gal Reef, 8 x 55 watt T5, 55 Gallon Sump, Schuran Jetskim 150 Skimmer, Schuran Pico Reactor, Dart on closed loop with OM 4 way Sen 1200 Return

01/27/2007, 05:01 PM	#18
mjm1969 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wasilla, Alaska Posts: 99	Beautiful job on on the aquascaping. Good luck on the algae... __________________ Michael Current Tank Info: 120RR FOWLR Awaiting release from storage

01/27/2007, 05:23 PM	#19
WaterKeeper Bogus Information Expert Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 16,147	Srape away as removing plant life is part of nutrient export. __________________ "Leading the information hungry reefer down the road to starvation" Tom Current Tank Info: 130 Now out of service and a 29

01/27/2007, 06:57 PM	#20
UH_OH_5_OH Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,184	Okay I have been running a Phosban Reactor for 2-3 months now and I did see an almost immediate reaction from the little bit of hair algae I did have in the tank...it's gone ! I replace my phos media every 6 weeks ! __________________ Life is hard; it's alot harder if you're stupid ! Current Tank Info: None !