Please help ID my new Clowns. Pic included

SquidHC · 03/08/2007, 01:54 PM

Alright so Im trying to figure out what kind of clowns these are so I can match them to a compatible home. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated.

mfh_anderson · 03/08/2007, 01:56 PM

think its a sebae clown

SquidHC · 03/08/2007, 01:59 PM

Also, these are the first fish I have in my tank and I've been really wanting to get them a home. I have heard of clowns hosting in a variety of other SpS like leathers and stuff like that in the case that an anenome is unavailable. Should I attempt the care of an anenome at this poing? Id really like to get them one but everyone says there hard to take care of. Im pretty up to the challenge as long as I can match them to a good anenome that they will be comfortable in.

Travis L. Stevens · 03/08/2007, 02:09 PM

It's difficult to tell without a better side view with the top fins upward. It could be a variety of clownfish, but I'm leaning towards Saddleback Clownfish (Amphiprion polymnus)

pony_killer · 03/08/2007, 02:10 PM

they look like my clarke clowns, same color, but maybe not. mine are hosting in a fairly big pink carpet anemone for about 3 years now. my friend raised them since they were babies and now their nice and fat

SquidHC · 03/08/2007, 02:23 PM

Heres a pic, I hope this is a little more clear.

Travis L. Stevens · 03/08/2007, 02:25 PM

That's a ton better, and it is definitely A. polymnus

SquidHC · 03/08/2007, 02:36 PM

The Black Saddle Back Clownfish, sometimes referred to as the Saddleback Clownfish, is mostly black with a yellow face and striking yellow outlined pectoral fins. The center stripe of this variation covers the width of the body, unlike others within this species.

A 30 gallon or larger aquarium is desirable. It may be kept in small groups and will benefit from a host anemone. They may form relationships with the following species of anemones; Carpet (Stichodactyla sp.), Sebae (Heteractis crispa), or Ritteri (Heteractis magnifica). (Always be sure that your aquarium and lighting system will support the needs of the host anemone before incorporating one into the aquarium.) It becomes more aggressive towards conspecifics as it ages.

Ok, so this listed three types of anenomes as hosts to these guys... The Carpet, Sebae, and Ritteri. The Sebae seems to be very hard to care for, are any of the others a less demanding species?

Travis L. Stevens · 03/08/2007, 02:53 PM

Out of those three listed as natural hosts, the Sebae is the easiest. Make sure that you don't get a bleached one. On the other hand, I feel you should first find out if you truly want an anemone. They walk all over the place and sting everything in their paths. After all, clownfish don't need anemones to survive or even breed. You might find it more pleasent for them to host in something a little more suitable in the aquarium. They'll pick what they want to host in. On the other hand, if you still want an anemone, you can always get something little easier such as a Bubble Tip Anemone (Entacmea quadricolor). There is no garuntee that those Saddlebacks will host in the BTA, or any anemone for that matter. But, you'll still have an anemone to look at and a chance that the clownfish will host in it.

Just my two cents.

SquidHC · 03/08/2007, 02:59 PM

I appreciate your imput. Im not 100% sure at this point that I want an anenome just because of the level of care they require, and because I am very new to the hobby. I am probably just going to go pick up a half dozen of small frags and see what they do.

zoomfish1 · 03/08/2007, 03:06 PM

Ole Trav is right on the money. Black saddleback. Just like the one in my avatar. Mine hosted in a carpet anemone, but my tank was 4 yrs old also. Please don't make the mistake of putting an anemone in a tank less than 6-8 months old. Water conditions just won't support one.

Do a lot of research on anemones while waiting for the tank to mature, and decide on which type you would want to keep.

You can check out the anemone & clownfish forum, and read some of the stickies at the top of that forum. Tons of good infor there.

Your 2 clowns look extremely healthy and will be great companions for years to come. Good luck with all.

03/08/2007, 01:54 PM	#1
SquidHC Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon, USA Posts: 840	Please help ID my new Clowns. Pic included Alright so Im trying to figure out what kind of clowns these are so I can match them to a compatible home. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. __________________ We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams. Current Tank Info: 30x30 cube under construction!

03/08/2007, 01:56 PM	#2
mfh_anderson Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 171	think its a sebae clown __________________ Carnival Cruise Lines ruined my honeymoon!!! Current Tank Info: 55 gallon, 8X54 T5 Nova Xtreme, 25 gal refuge,

03/08/2007, 01:59 PM	#3
SquidHC Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon, USA Posts: 840	Also, these are the first fish I have in my tank and I've been really wanting to get them a home. I have heard of clowns hosting in a variety of other SpS like leathers and stuff like that in the case that an anenome is unavailable. Should I attempt the care of an anenome at this poing? Id really like to get them one but everyone says there hard to take care of. Im pretty up to the challenge as long as I can match them to a good anenome that they will be comfortable in. __________________ We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams. Current Tank Info: 30x30 cube under construction!

03/08/2007, 02:09 PM	#4
Travis L. Stevens Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Perry, OK Posts: 13,946	It's difficult to tell without a better side view with the top fins upward. It could be a variety of clownfish, but I'm leaning towards Saddleback Clownfish (Amphiprion polymnus) __________________ Travis Stevens Current Tank Info: Restarting 28g Bowfront

03/08/2007, 02:23 PM	#6
SquidHC Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon, USA Posts: 840	Heres a pic, I hope this is a little more clear. __________________ We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams. Current Tank Info: 30x30 cube under construction!

03/08/2007, 02:10 PM	#5
pony_killer Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 322	they look like my clarke clowns, same color, but maybe not. mine are hosting in a fairly big pink carpet anemone for about 3 years now. my friend raised them since they were babies and now their nice and fat

03/08/2007, 02:25 PM	#7
Travis L. Stevens Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Perry, OK Posts: 13,946	That's a ton better, and it is definitely A. polymnus __________________ Travis Stevens Current Tank Info: Restarting 28g Bowfront

03/08/2007, 02:36 PM	#8
SquidHC Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon, USA Posts: 840	The Black Saddle Back Clownfish, sometimes referred to as the Saddleback Clownfish, is mostly black with a yellow face and striking yellow outlined pectoral fins. The center stripe of this variation covers the width of the body, unlike others within this species. A 30 gallon or larger aquarium is desirable. It may be kept in small groups and will benefit from a host anemone. They may form relationships with the following species of anemones; Carpet (Stichodactyla sp.), Sebae (Heteractis crispa), or Ritteri (Heteractis magnifica). (Always be sure that your aquarium and lighting system will support the needs of the host anemone before incorporating one into the aquarium.) It becomes more aggressive towards conspecifics as it ages. Ok, so this listed three types of anenomes as hosts to these guys... The Carpet, Sebae, and Ritteri. The Sebae seems to be very hard to care for, are any of the others a less demanding species? __________________ We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams. Current Tank Info: 30x30 cube under construction!

03/08/2007, 02:53 PM	#9
Travis L. Stevens Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Perry, OK Posts: 13,946	Out of those three listed as natural hosts, the Sebae is the easiest. Make sure that you don't get a bleached one. On the other hand, I feel you should first find out if you truly want an anemone. They walk all over the place and sting everything in their paths. After all, clownfish don't need anemones to survive or even breed. You might find it more pleasent for them to host in something a little more suitable in the aquarium. They'll pick what they want to host in. On the other hand, if you still want an anemone, you can always get something little easier such as a Bubble Tip Anemone (Entacmea quadricolor). There is no garuntee that those Saddlebacks will host in the BTA, or any anemone for that matter. But, you'll still have an anemone to look at and a chance that the clownfish will host in it. Just my two cents. __________________ Travis Stevens Current Tank Info: Restarting 28g Bowfront

03/08/2007, 02:59 PM	#10
SquidHC Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon, USA Posts: 840	I appreciate your imput. Im not 100% sure at this point that I want an anenome just because of the level of care they require, and because I am very new to the hobby. I am probably just going to go pick up a half dozen of small frags and see what they do. __________________ We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams. Current Tank Info: 30x30 cube under construction!

03/08/2007, 03:06 PM	#11
zoomfish1 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Claremore, Oklahoma Posts: 1,659	Ole Trav is right on the money. Black saddleback. Just like the one in my avatar. Mine hosted in a carpet anemone, but my tank was 4 yrs old also. Please don't make the mistake of putting an anemone in a tank less than 6-8 months old. Water conditions just won't support one. Do a lot of research on anemones while waiting for the tank to mature, and decide on which type you would want to keep. You can check out the anemone & clownfish forum, and read some of the stickies at the top of that forum. Tons of good infor there. Your 2 clowns look extremely healthy and will be great companions for years to come. Good luck with all. __________________ Zoomfish Current Tank Info: 75g RR, dsb w/90 lbs sand, 150 lb live rock, anemone & LPS tank