Does any make a quiet chiller???

Roland Jacques · 04/27/2007, 12:08 PM

I got a 90 tank fish only tank geting up to 90 degress.

We lost an eel but the other fish were ok at 90 degrees and showed no stress signs. i was suprised. Anyway just looking for a quiet chiller with a good price.

SDguy · 04/27/2007, 12:09 PM

I can't even hear my JBJ.

Roland Jacques · 04/27/2007, 12:14 PM

Wow really, what Horse power is yours?

old95er · 04/27/2007, 12:27 PM

JBJ Arctica Titanium 1/10 hp, barely noticeable, more important it resets itself to the last set temp after an outage. It does warm up the room, though. . .if you don't have AC, this will heat the place up.

Roland Jacques · 04/27/2007, 12:37 PM

found this http://cgi.ebay.com/1-10-HP-JBJ-ARCT...QQcmdZViewItem

i cant find the pull down rate on it. im not sure if 1/10th will do the job? 14 degree on 90-100 gallons of water.

old95er · 04/27/2007, 12:51 PM

http://www.vividaquariums.com/10Expa...Code=04-1512-1

This is where I got it. I have a 50, with 250 HQI, two titanium pumps, and it does a fine job.

SDguy · 04/27/2007, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roland Jacques
Wow really, what Horse power is yours?

1/4HP

How tiny is your tank that you are looking at the 1/10th HP units?

Covey · 04/27/2007, 01:35 PM

If you feeling crazy rich this line is suppose to be silent.
http://www.finsreef.com/product.php?...cat=317&page=1

DarG · 04/27/2007, 01:36 PM

Roland, I wouldn't go smaller than 1/4 hp, thats just my opinion but I have run chillers for 10 years+. I'm using a 1/3 hp on a 90 that would run at 84 or 85 degrees before I added Metal Halides. I'm sure it would be pushing atl;east 87 or 88 without the chiller.
Personally, I'd go 1/3 ... well, I did actually. Consider atleast 1/4hp. The 1/5th hp Universal Marine chiller I had before I upsized the tank and the chiller to the 1/3rd would run for a looooong time to cool my 90.

DarG · 04/27/2007, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Covey
If you feeling crazy rich this line is suppose to be silent.
http://www.finsreef.com/product.php?...cat=317&page=1

I think those only have like a 7-8 degree pull down though. I Could be wrong.

DarG · 04/27/2007, 01:40 PM

Don't know how good these are but the price is good for a 1/4 hp.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Aquarium-Chiller...QQcmdZViewItem

Roland Jacques · 04/27/2007, 03:15 PM

i forgot the formula on pull down. but if a 1/4 HP pulls down 100 gallons 30 degrees, that probubly means running non stop to do that. So to pull down 15 degrees on 100 gallons it would have to run about half the time (when lights... are on )

So yeah 1/4 hp should be what im looking for on that tank. (15 is the max it should ever have to pulldown)

Covey those look nice but the price is up thier.

Joshua1023 · 04/27/2007, 04:50 PM

I'm pleased w/ my Current Prime Tower. I use the 1/3hp unit on my 90, but I think that the 1/4hp would take care of it. I just think that the 1/3hp runs less and therefore is far less noisy and more cost efficient. Here's a link to the least expensive online spot I found. http://www.aquamartonline.com/1580.html

DarG · 04/27/2007, 06:57 PM

I have the a Current also, but the full size modular 1/3 hp. I agree with going a size larger than optimum if you can afford it. As long as the cycles aren't too short to put excess wear on the compressor and stress on the fish with too quick of a pull down. With my current set-up, the Chiller runs just under 50 minutes for a little more than a 2 degree drop with the Halide and T5 lights on with 3 Maji Jets, a main pump, skimmer pump and 25 watt UV. The tank would run near 88 degrees without the chiller. Chiller is set to come on at 77 degrees. It kicks on at just over 77 and off at just under 75. It runs a few minutes less when I'm running Koralias (in for warranty recall) instead of the Maxi's and about for about 40 minutes when the lights are off. With the lights on, the fish room is about 86 degrees and that's where the Chiller is located so it's operating in an 86 degree room when temp. is highest and the chiller vents completely outside of the room so it's not fighting it's own heat.

I write all this just to give you an idea of what my chiller is up against so maybe you can use it for comparison to your situation. The chiller sizing charts are great an all but there are alot of variables in the real world that need to be considered.

Joshua1023 · 04/27/2007, 07:08 PM

Good tip. I never thought of motor wear from frequently switching on and off. To be honost I really don't pay the chiller much attention at all.

DarG · 04/27/2007, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joshua1023
Good tip. I never thought of motor wear from frequently switching on and off. To be honost I really don't pay the chiller much attention at all.

Me neither. I do make a mental note of how long it runs under a few different scenarios (lights on, lights off) or when I add something or remove from the tank. Just gives me a baseline for how its running so I can recognize any issues. But most of the time, I pay it no mind. It's in a location where we can hear it when it is running but ... you can hear the refrigerator too, Its no more intrusive than that.

aninjaatemyshoe · 04/27/2007, 07:46 PM

Are those chillers from finsreef peltier based? If so, I doubt they are very efficient. Also, they won't be completely silent as they use fans (but certainly alot quieter than a compressor).

aninjaatemyshoe · 04/27/2007, 07:51 PM

Typically the compressor turning on and off too many times is not what you'd be worried about in an aquarium setting (so long as there is a couple of degrees of play in the on/off temps). The temperature should not be fluctuating that much unless you have a super heat load. The compressor never shutting off is what you want to avoid (basically what happens if you leave your fridge door open).

04/27/2007, 12:08 PM	#1
Roland Jacques Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 2,848	Does any make a quiet chiller??? I got a 90 tank fish only tank geting up to 90 degress. We lost an eel but the other fish were ok at 90 degrees and showed no stress signs. i was suprised. Anyway just looking for a quiet chiller with a good price. __________________ Roland

04/27/2007, 12:09 PM	#2
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	I can't even hear my JBJ. __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

04/27/2007, 12:14 PM	#3
Roland Jacques Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 2,848	Wow really, what Horse power is yours? __________________ Roland

04/27/2007, 12:27 PM	#4
old95er Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Connecticut Posts: 462	JBJ Arctica Titanium 1/10 hp, barely noticeable, more important it resets itself to the last set temp after an outage. It does warm up the room, though. . .if you don't have AC, this will heat the place up. __________________ Click the red house. . .check out the new 120. . .tell me what you think! Current Tank Info: 120. . .lumenarc stealth x 2, 10k Ushio DE 250w, DIY sump, mag18 return, with refugium,AquaC EV180 with Mag7, Dart /OM 4 way CL, JBJ 1/10hp Chiller, Fishbowl Innovations Moonlightsx2, Oceanus Poseidon ATO fr RO/DI, ozotech poseidon

04/27/2007, 12:37 PM	#5
Roland Jacques Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 2,848	found this http://cgi.ebay.com/1-10-HP-JBJ-ARCT...QQcmdZViewItem i cant find the pull down rate on it. im not sure if 1/10th will do the job? 14 degree on 90-100 gallons of water. __________________ Roland

04/27/2007, 12:51 PM	#6
old95er Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Connecticut Posts: 462	http://www.vividaquariums.com/10Expa...Code=04-1512-1 This is where I got it. I have a 50, with 250 HQI, two titanium pumps, and it does a fine job. __________________ Click the red house. . .check out the new 120. . .tell me what you think! Current Tank Info: 120. . .lumenarc stealth x 2, 10k Ushio DE 250w, DIY sump, mag18 return, with refugium,AquaC EV180 with Mag7, Dart /OM 4 way CL, JBJ 1/10hp Chiller, Fishbowl Innovations Moonlightsx2, Oceanus Poseidon ATO fr RO/DI, ozotech poseidon

04/27/2007, 01:35 PM	#8
Covey Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Davenport IA Posts: 2,018	If you feeling crazy rich this line is suppose to be silent. http://www.finsreef.com/product.php?...cat=317&page=1

04/27/2007, 01:36 PM	#9
DarG Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,515	Roland, I wouldn't go smaller than 1/4 hp, thats just my opinion but I have run chillers for 10 years+. I'm using a 1/3 hp on a 90 that would run at 84 or 85 degrees before I added Metal Halides. I'm sure it would be pushing atl;east 87 or 88 without the chiller. Personally, I'd go 1/3 ... well, I did actually. Consider atleast 1/4hp. The 1/5th hp Universal Marine chiller I had before I upsized the tank and the chiller to the 1/3rd would run for a looooong time to cool my 90.

04/27/2007, 01:40 PM	#11
DarG Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,515	Don't know how good these are but the price is good for a 1/4 hp. http://cgi.ebay.com/Aquarium-Chiller...QQcmdZViewItem

04/27/2007, 03:15 PM	#12
Roland Jacques Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 2,848	i forgot the formula on pull down. but if a 1/4 HP pulls down 100 gallons 30 degrees, that probubly means running non stop to do that. So to pull down 15 degrees on 100 gallons it would have to run about half the time (when lights... are on ) So yeah 1/4 hp should be what im looking for on that tank. (15 is the max it should ever have to pulldown) Covey those look nice but the price is up thier. __________________ Roland Last edited by Roland Jacques; 04/27/2007 at 03:55 PM.

04/27/2007, 04:50 PM	#13
Joshua1023 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reading PA Posts: 1,526	I'm pleased w/ my Current Prime Tower. I use the 1/3hp unit on my 90, but I think that the 1/4hp would take care of it. I just think that the 1/3hp runs less and therefore is far less noisy and more cost efficient. Here's a link to the least expensive online spot I found. http://www.aquamartonline.com/1580.html __________________ Only bad things happen fast. Only bad thing happen fast. Only bad things happen fast. Man,I'm friggen hard-headed!!! Current Tank Info: 90 gl tank,Coralife 14K MH lights,2 Current dual daylight/actinic 40 watt fixtures, tidepool sump,Coralife SS 220 protein skimmer,six inch sand bed w/ plenum, Current Prime Tower 1/3 hp Chiller,RedSea ozonizer w/ orp

04/27/2007, 06:57 PM	#14
DarG Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,515	I have the a Current also, but the full size modular 1/3 hp. I agree with going a size larger than optimum if you can afford it. As long as the cycles aren't too short to put excess wear on the compressor and stress on the fish with too quick of a pull down. With my current set-up, the Chiller runs just under 50 minutes for a little more than a 2 degree drop with the Halide and T5 lights on with 3 Maji Jets, a main pump, skimmer pump and 25 watt UV. The tank would run near 88 degrees without the chiller. Chiller is set to come on at 77 degrees. It kicks on at just over 77 and off at just under 75. It runs a few minutes less when I'm running Koralias (in for warranty recall) instead of the Maxi's and about for about 40 minutes when the lights are off. With the lights on, the fish room is about 86 degrees and that's where the Chiller is located so it's operating in an 86 degree room when temp. is highest and the chiller vents completely outside of the room so it's not fighting it's own heat. I write all this just to give you an idea of what my chiller is up against so maybe you can use it for comparison to your situation. The chiller sizing charts are great an all but there are alot of variables in the real world that need to be considered.

04/27/2007, 07:08 PM	#15
Joshua1023 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reading PA Posts: 1,526	Good tip. I never thought of motor wear from frequently switching on and off. To be honost I really don't pay the chiller much attention at all. __________________ Only bad things happen fast. Only bad thing happen fast. Only bad things happen fast. Man,I'm friggen hard-headed!!! Current Tank Info: 90 gl tank,Coralife 14K MH lights,2 Current dual daylight/actinic 40 watt fixtures, tidepool sump,Coralife SS 220 protein skimmer,six inch sand bed w/ plenum, Current Prime Tower 1/3 hp Chiller,RedSea ozonizer w/ orp

04/27/2007, 07:46 PM	#17
aninjaatemyshoe Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 2,333	Are those chillers from finsreef peltier based? If so, I doubt they are very efficient. Also, they won't be completely silent as they use fans (but certainly alot quieter than a compressor). __________________ You are not brought upon this world to "get it"

04/27/2007, 07:51 PM	#18
aninjaatemyshoe Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 2,333	Typically the compressor turning on and off too many times is not what you'd be worried about in an aquarium setting (so long as there is a couple of degrees of play in the on/off temps). The temperature should not be fluctuating that much unless you have a super heat load. The compressor never shutting off is what you want to avoid (basically what happens if you leave your fridge door open). __________________ You are not brought upon this world to "get it"