Tunze powerhead vs Wavebox for flow..

homebrewdude · 12/18/2007, 06:50 PM

I am still working on my 150gal tank.
I will have about 900gph return line on a sea swirl.
I was planning on 2 #4 koralia for flow - but I am having problems with them.

I was thinking of 2 NanoStream Pump 6055 that I can run on my controller.

Or for about the same money, I can get a tunze wavebox.

This will be a mostly LPS tank.
The tank is tall, not long.

Any suggestions on pumps vs wavebox?

rfields · 12/18/2007, 07:51 PM

You said in another thread that you had a problem with one Koralia 4, did you get this problem fixed? I know you just said you email Hydor about the second problem, going to let them fix this problem? I know with LPS you have to be careful with the amount of flow you give them, trust me I have a lot of ticked off LPS right now, trying to adjust the flow from 3 Koralia 3's.

T Man · 12/18/2007, 08:04 PM

I have a wavebox and two #4 koralias for circulation. The wavebox generates an ideal "sway" for my LPS and clams, while the powerheads provide a current for the fish to ride.
Tunze makes the best, If you have the dough.....you'll get what you pay for and your corals will love ya'!

T

rfields · 12/18/2007, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by T Man
I have a wavebox and two #4 koralias for circulation. The wavebox generates an ideal "sway" my LPS and clams while the powerheads provide a curret for the fish to ride.
Tunze makes the best, If you have the dough.....you'll get what you pay for and your corals will love ya'! T

I will agree that Tunze makes the best BUT would it be toooooooooo much flow for a 120 when you add everything else?

homebrewdude · 12/18/2007, 08:11 PM

I was thinking the wavebox would replace the power heads.

Would I still need a powerhead if I have a wavebox?

rfields · 12/18/2007, 08:12 PM

trying to find gallons per hour right now

homebrewdude · 12/18/2007, 08:16 PM

Maybe that would depend on the size of the tank???

rfields · 12/18/2007, 08:18 PM

you dont have much bigger tank that i have, 75, and really i right now with everything i have seen wouldnt put one in with LPS

homebrewdude · 12/18/2007, 08:21 PM

My tank is 150gal
No wavebox alone??

People that are running these waveboxes all have SPS?

rfields · 12/18/2007, 08:22 PM

from everything i can see and i might be missing something with this system, only looked for abt 30 minutes on the internet, these would be GREAT for a SPS tank or a fish only, even tho it might be over kill there, but i know that my LPS like the low to mid level flow and this would be over the top for them

rfields · 12/18/2007, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by homebrewdude
My tank is 150gal
No wavebox alone??

People that are running these waveboxes all have SPS?

If you have rocks around your LPS you should be good but if in the open you will see the problem. If you want i can email you pix of the problem with toooo much flow

BreadmanMike · 12/18/2007, 08:26 PM

You still need powerheads even if you have a wavebox. The wavebox will keep detritus suspended, but you still need flow to get the solids into your overflow down to the the skimmer.

I would suggest 2x6101's and the wavebox or just get the 6101's if money is an issue. You can add the wavebox later.

homebrewdude · 12/18/2007, 08:28 PM

Aquaticman74 do you have a wavebox??

BreadmanMike · 12/18/2007, 08:29 PM

I used to before I sold my 125. I'm thinking of adding one and an extension to my cube.

rfields · 12/18/2007, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by homebrewdude
Aquaticman74 do you have a wavebox??

And which tank size?

homebrewdude · 12/18/2007, 08:33 PM

So a wavebox and some powerheads for flow would be ok for LPS?

My 120 currently has 2 #4 koralia's and could probably use a bit more flow...

My 150 I was thinking a wavebox and one nanostream (the large one)
And I have the 900gph return flow

BreadmanMike · 12/18/2007, 08:51 PM

I think you would be better off with two 6101's and the multicontroller.

rfields · 12/18/2007, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aquaticman74
I think you would be better off with two 6101's and the multicontroller.

two 6101's and the multicontroller or two 6101's and the multicontroller with wavebox?

homebrewdude · 12/18/2007, 08:54 PM

Why the 6101 vs the nanostream??
The nanostream can run on a controller also

BreadmanMike · 12/18/2007, 08:54 PM

Another suggestion would be the wavebox and 4-6 of the mj mods or modded 6025 nano streams.

Creetin · 12/18/2007, 08:58 PM

Here ya go, No wavebox needed just 2 6100's controlled by my profilux aquarium controller. You gan get the light2 profilux for the same price as the tunze multicontroller and controll 4 tunze's and lights, monitor temp ect.
Check out ghl's forum here for more details.

Creetin · 12/18/2007, 08:59 PM

BTW its 2 6100's on a 6 ft 180 tank. No ugly back box.

rfields · 12/18/2007, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Creetin
BTW its 2 6100's on a 6 ft 180 tank. No ugly back box.

Creetin saw the SPS and they look great. Can you tell us how much LPS you have in your tank?

Creetin · 12/18/2007, 09:10 PM

Mostly acans for lps. I have about 10 small colony's at the moment, A little more than i had there. They like the flow, They are getting a decent amt of flow, Not like the top of the tank, But more than they had previously. The flow is a cross of a wavebox and a stream, You still get that flow you would not get with a wavebox. Heres a link to the light 2, I own the profilux plus II

http://www.aqua-digital.com/index.ph...mart&Itemid=30

BreadmanMike · 12/18/2007, 09:13 PM

Here's an older shot of my cube with three 6100's and lots of LPS.

12/18/2007, 06:50 PM	#1
homebrewdude Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dyer Posts: 995	Tunze powerhead vs Wavebox for flow.. I am still working on my 150gal tank. I will have about 900gph return line on a sea swirl. I was planning on 2 #4 koralia for flow - but I am having problems with them. I was thinking of 2 NanoStream Pump 6055 that I can run on my controller. Or for about the same money, I can get a tunze wavebox. This will be a mostly LPS tank. The tank is tall, not long. Any suggestions on pumps vs wavebox?

12/18/2007, 08:04 PM	#3
T Man ~PPPPPPP~ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Emerald City Posts: 1,045	I have a wavebox and two #4 koralias for circulation. The wavebox generates an ideal "sway" for my LPS and clams, while the powerheads provide a current for the fish to ride. Tunze makes the best, If you have the dough.....you'll get what you pay for and your corals will love ya'! T Last edited by T Man; 12/18/2007 at 08:12 PM.

12/18/2007, 08:58 PM	#21
Creetin Limestone Cowboy. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In a little place i like to call a little place. Posts: 4,552	Here ya go, No wavebox needed just 2 6100's controlled by my profilux aquarium controller. You gan get the light2 profilux for the same price as the tunze multicontroller and controll 4 tunze's and lights, monitor temp ect. Check out ghl's forum here for more details. __________________ If only common sense was common. Current Tank Info: 300 gal marineland deep

12/18/2007, 08:59 PM	#22
Creetin Limestone Cowboy. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In a little place i like to call a little place. Posts: 4,552	BTW its 2 6100's on a 6 ft 180 tank. No ugly back box. __________________ If only common sense was common. Current Tank Info: 300 gal marineland deep

12/18/2007, 09:10 PM	#24
Creetin Limestone Cowboy. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In a little place i like to call a little place. Posts: 4,552	Mostly acans for lps. I have about 10 small colony's at the moment, A little more than i had there. They like the flow, They are getting a decent amt of flow, Not like the top of the tank, But more than they had previously. The flow is a cross of a wavebox and a stream, You still get that flow you would not get with a wavebox. Heres a link to the light 2, I own the profilux plus II http://www.aqua-digital.com/index.ph...mart&Itemid=30 __________________ If only common sense was common. Current Tank Info: 300 gal marineland deep

12/18/2007, 07:51 PM	#2
rfields Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 99	You said in another thread that you had a problem with one Koralia 4, did you get this problem fixed? I know you just said you email Hydor about the second problem, going to let them fix this problem? I know with LPS you have to be careful with the amount of flow you give them, trust me I have a lot of ticked off LPS right now, trying to adjust the flow from 3 Koralia 3's.

12/18/2007, 08:11 PM	#5
homebrewdude Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dyer Posts: 995	I was thinking the wavebox would replace the power heads. Would I still need a powerhead if I have a wavebox?

12/18/2007, 08:12 PM	#6
rfields Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 99	trying to find gallons per hour right now

12/18/2007, 08:16 PM	#7
homebrewdude Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dyer Posts: 995	Maybe that would depend on the size of the tank???

12/18/2007, 08:18 PM	#8
rfields Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 99	you dont have much bigger tank that i have, 75, and really i right now with everything i have seen wouldnt put one in with LPS

12/18/2007, 08:21 PM	#9
homebrewdude Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dyer Posts: 995	My tank is 150gal No wavebox alone?? People that are running these waveboxes all have SPS?

12/18/2007, 08:22 PM	#10
rfields Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 99	from everything i can see and i might be missing something with this system, only looked for abt 30 minutes on the internet, these would be GREAT for a SPS tank or a fish only, even tho it might be over kill there, but i know that my LPS like the low to mid level flow and this would be over the top for them

12/18/2007, 08:26 PM	#12
BreadmanMike Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,886	You still need powerheads even if you have a wavebox. The wavebox will keep detritus suspended, but you still need flow to get the solids into your overflow down to the the skimmer. I would suggest 2x6101's and the wavebox or just get the 6101's if money is an issue. You can add the wavebox later.

12/18/2007, 08:28 PM	#13
homebrewdude Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dyer Posts: 995	Aquaticman74 do you have a wavebox??

12/18/2007, 08:29 PM	#14
BreadmanMike Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,886	I used to before I sold my 125. I'm thinking of adding one and an extension to my cube.

12/18/2007, 08:33 PM	#16
homebrewdude Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dyer Posts: 995	So a wavebox and some powerheads for flow would be ok for LPS? My 120 currently has 2 #4 koralia's and could probably use a bit more flow... My 150 I was thinking a wavebox and one nanostream (the large one) And I have the 900gph return flow

12/18/2007, 08:51 PM	#17
BreadmanMike Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,886	I think you would be better off with two 6101's and the multicontroller.

12/18/2007, 08:54 PM	#19
homebrewdude Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dyer Posts: 995	Why the 6101 vs the nanostream?? The nanostream can run on a controller also

12/18/2007, 09:13 PM	#25
BreadmanMike Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,886	Here's an older shot of my cube with three 6100's and lots of LPS.