The T5 Q&a Thread - Page 22

Phanman1 · 02/12/2008, 03:57 PM

your the man Grim!! thx again for the advice!

snaza · 02/12/2008, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Grim Reefer
2 lamps in one reflector aint gonna work right,

i cant fit 2 reflectors in there. would the ice cap reflector be better that the plasic aluminium crappy one in there? im going to get a 2 bulb ice cap retro in a few weeks this is just for the time being.

how do ice cap reflectors compare to whats in the ATI modules?

steveoutlaw · 02/12/2008, 05:04 PM

Grim,
I've got a 6x54w TEK fixture that I'm putting on a 90g mixed reef. I'm going to have a good number of softies and LPS around the bottom of the rockwork and all SPS from 1/4 way to all the way up. I'm also going to have some clams on the sand bed. I currently have 2 geissman actinic plus, 3 geissman aquablue plus and 1 geissman daylight bulb.

Now it's time to change bulbs and I REALLY want the colors to pop. any recommendations?

Thanks a million!

spiderman123 · 02/12/2008, 05:30 PM

Hi do you really need to turn on the actinics an hour before you turn on your daylights reason for asking the way i have my bulbs set i cant do that i have them set up like this

Blue Plus
ATI Actinic
UVL Aquasun
Blue Plus
UVL 75/25
Blue Plus

raleej337 · 02/12/2008, 05:34 PM

Grim,

I'm in the process of setting up a 90gal tank (48L x 18D x 24H) and can't decide which lighting should I use. I am choosing between these two: 48" 2x250W DE MH with 2x65W PC or 48" 6x54W T5 HO (independent reflectors). The tank will housed both SPS and LPS.

Thanks!

jennmac415 · 02/12/2008, 06:08 PM

spiderman...I would like to see a pic of your tank with this combo...

sbcaes · 02/12/2008, 08:16 PM

hrmm hey grim i took a look at that link you sent me for the 18" nova retros. and fixtures. what is the difference in output between those bulbs vs any other bulb? im tihnking of possibly creating my own fixture with those bulbs and getting reflectors done for a 20^3 cube. woudl these bulbs give me enough par to compare or beat a 150 hqi bulb?

martinphillip03 · 02/12/2008, 09:11 PM

Grim, I hope you were talking about the bulbs, and not the fixtures. Is this correct.

Marty

Quote:

Originally posted by The Grim Reefer
Running 4 lamps a aquactinics 39 watt fixture did 194 over my tank. ATI 4x39 watt powermodule did 302. 54 watt fixtures are going to be a little better showing for the Aquactinics because the better ballasts than their 39 watt fixtures..

Originally posted by Phillips
I know the number of bulbs in the fixtures aren't the same, but has anyone measured the difference in performance between these two lines of fixtures?

Does one get more PAR per bulb out of one or the other?

I'm trying to figure out which to order and the price difference is not small.

Thanks in advance for any info.

EvilE · 02/12/2008, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Grim Reefer
Blue Plus
Actinic
Aquasun
Blue Plus

You want the actinic lick hitting the viewing side of the corals, not the back side;

Ok I changed them around again! Thanks for your valuable input Grim! I appreciate it! They look great, and really make my corals, especially my hammer, candycanes, and frogspawn pop!! They glow great!

dreed · 02/12/2008, 11:00 PM

Alright, I figured out how I'm going to build the canopy and will go with the 6x39 retro kit from reefgeek. $439 doesn't sound like a bad price at all. I can mount the balasts outsid the back and still have room to spare by the wall. Now I need to find out what bulbs I should go with.

I'm going to have some of everything in the tank save for clams. I would like it to be slightly on the blue side rather than white but will go with what is needed for growth.

Should I have a separator plate of glass to prevent splashup on the bulbs?

Anybody?

Thanks a million!
Dave

Vinnie71975 · 02/12/2008, 11:07 PM

Ok well i got my bulbs today and i must say im a BIT angry. I Put in my ATI Actinic and it Burnt out as soon as i turned it on!! needless to say i wont be ordering any more Actinics from them.

tinnghe · 02/13/2008, 01:00 AM

would the bulbs life shorten if it is overdriven by ic in the aquatinics solar flare? would i save more money in the long run if i do the power module instead since the bulbs will alst longer?

The Grim Reefer · 02/13/2008, 01:57 AM

dreed

Fan Idea is fine. If you have room inside the ballasts can go there too. Lights should be about 4" above the water at a minimum

For lamps try

Front
Blue Plus
ATI Actinic
UVL Aquasun
ATI Blue Plus
ATI Aquablue
ATI Blue Plus

The Grim Reefer · 02/13/2008, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by snaza
i cant fit 2 reflectors in there. would the ice cap reflector be better that the plasic aluminium crappy one in there? im going to get a 2 bulb ice cap retro in a few weeks this is just for the time being.

how do ice cap reflectors compare to whats in the ATI modules?

I'd leave it in the flat reflector until you get the rest. The added heat of having the lamps confined in a tight space will cause enough heat buildup it will probably cut the output.

The Grim Reefer · 02/13/2008, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by steveoutlaw
Grim,
I've got a 6x54w TEK fixture that I'm putting on a 90g mixed reef. I'm going to have a good number of softies and LPS around the bottom of the rockwork and all SPS from 1/4 way to all the way up. I'm also going to have some clams on the sand bed. I currently have 2 geissman actinic plus, 3 geissman aquablue plus and 1 geissman daylight bulb.

Now it's time to change bulbs and I REALLY want the colors to pop. any recommendations?

Thanks a million!

ATI Blue Plus
UVL 75/25
UVL Aquasun
ATI Blue Plus
ATI Aquablue
ATI Blue Plus

The Grim Reefer · 02/13/2008, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spiderman123
Hi do you really need to turn on the actinics an hour before you turn on your daylights reason for asking the way i have my bulbs set i cant do that i have them set up like this

Blue Plus
ATI Actinic
UVL Aquasun
Blue Plus
UVL 75/25
Blue Plus

You don't have to run a dusk/dawn if you dont want to and if you do it doesn't have to be actinic.

snaza · 02/13/2008, 02:14 AM

Sorry grim one last question,

here in aust ATI bulbs are $45 each and the aquaz are $20. are ATI blueplus and aquablue blub worth the extra money than the aqua z pro blue and ocean pro?

The Grim Reefer · 02/13/2008, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sbcaes
hrmm hey grim i took a look at that link you sent me for the 18" nova retros. and fixtures. what is the difference in output between those bulbs vs any other bulb? im tihnking of possibly creating my own fixture with those bulbs and getting reflectors done for a 20^3 cube. woudl these bulbs give me enough par to compare or beat a 150 hqi bulb?

Dunno, they are HO so I assume they would be about the same.

The Grim Reefer · 02/13/2008, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by snaza
Sorry grim one last question,

here in aust ATI bulbs are $45 each and the aquaz are $20. are ATI blueplus and aquablue blub worth the extra money than the aqua z pro blue and ocean pro?

Nah, go for the AquaZ.

The Grim Reefer · 02/13/2008, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by martinphillip03
Grim, I hope you were talking about the bulbs, and not the fixtures. Is this correct.

Marty

Originally posted by Phillips
I know the number of bulbs in the fixtures aren't the same, but has anyone measured the difference in performance between these two lines of fixtures?

Does one get more PAR per bulb out of one or the other?

I'm trying to figure out which to order and the price difference is not small.

Thanks in advance for any info.

The 39 watt Aquactinics fixture has to use Workhorse ballasts. They arent as good as the "real" T5 ballast

The Grim Reefer · 02/13/2008, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vinnie71975
Ok well i got my bulbs today and i must say im a BIT angry. I Put in my ATI Actinic and it Burnt out as soon as i turned it on!! needless to say i wont be ordering any more Actinics from them.

Bummer. Stuff happens. The only T5's I've ever had burn out was when I didn't have them seated with while testing them. Leaves an interesting mirror finish near the end of the lamp.

The Grim Reefer · 02/13/2008, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tinnghe
would the bulbs life shorten if it is overdriven by ic in the aquatinics solar flare? would i save more money in the long run if i do the power module instead since the bulbs will alst longer?

Shouldn't make a huge difference in lamp life

sbcaes · 02/13/2008, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Grim Reefer
Dunno, they are HO so I assume they would be about the same.

Hrrmmm know anywhere i could reflectors for these bads boys? as well as what ballast would you reccomend i may try to build a 20" fixture with 8 bulbs or so. but they seemt only come in 10k and actinics colors. so the color scheme is going to be somewhat limted.

snaza · 02/13/2008, 06:12 AM

with my MH i had them on 11am-7pm. with t5 dusk/dawn. now i have all t5s how long should i keep them on. at the moment actinics 9am-10pm and the rest 12-8pm. is that ok or should they all be on for 10hour or so?

dreed · 02/13/2008, 08:41 AM

Awesome. I'll order here in a week and let you know how it turns out. Thanks for your time Grim. I really appreciate it.

Dave

02/12/2008, 06:08 PM	#531
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02/12/2008, 11:07 PM	#536
Vinnie71975 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bryan Ohio Posts: 777	Ok well i got my bulbs today and i must say im a BIT angry. I Put in my ATI Actinic and it Burnt out as soon as i turned it on!! needless to say i wont be ordering any more Actinics from them. __________________ God will have Mercy Your SW tank WONT- Me Freedom Must occasionally be renewed with the blood of patriots-General Patton Current Tank Info: 55g reef to be(buying stuff now), 20g high Goldfish, 20g High FW Semi Aggressive, 35g hex Community tank, 10g SW Fowlr

02/13/2008, 01:57 AM	#538
The Grim Reefer Ready for some NOBALL!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kingman Az Posts: 25,259	dreed Fan Idea is fine. If you have room inside the ballasts can go there too. Lights should be about 4" above the water at a minimum For lamps try Front Blue Plus ATI Actinic UVL Aquasun ATI Blue Plus ATI Aquablue ATI Blue Plus __________________ America, the way it outta be! Current Tank Info: 120 Starphire with Illudium Q-288 Photon Regurgitator DIY LED lighting

02/13/2008, 02:14 AM	#542
snaza Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 1,393	Sorry grim one last question, here in aust ATI bulbs are $45 each and the aquaz are $20. are ATI blueplus and aquablue blub worth the extra money than the aqua z pro blue and ocean pro? __________________ T5 SPS 60x33x20 Display Tank + 50x16x8 Frag Tank - 10x54W ATI Powermodule \| 2 x Tunze 6205 \| Tunze 6105 \| 2 x modded Tunze 6025 \| Polario 15ML (Frag Tank) \| ATB white cone Skimmer with Airstar 1500 \| WM Ecobak in TLF 550 Current Tank Info: 60x33x20 SPS T5 DT + 52x16x8 FT, 4x2x2, 30x10x8

02/13/2008, 06:12 AM	#549
snaza Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 1,393	with my MH i had them on 11am-7pm. with t5 dusk/dawn. now i have all t5s how long should i keep them on. at the moment actinics 9am-10pm and the rest 12-8pm. is that ok or should they all be on for 10hour or so? __________________ T5 SPS 60x33x20 Display Tank + 50x16x8 Frag Tank - 10x54W ATI Powermodule \| 2 x Tunze 6205 \| Tunze 6105 \| 2 x modded Tunze 6025 \| Polario 15ML (Frag Tank) \| ATB white cone Skimmer with Airstar 1500 \| WM Ecobak in TLF 550 Current Tank Info: 60x33x20 SPS T5 DT + 52x16x8 FT, 4x2x2, 30x10x8

02/12/2008, 03:57 PM	#526
Phanman1 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 64	your the man Grim!! thx again for the advice!

02/12/2008, 05:04 PM	#528
steveoutlaw Moved On Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 355	Grim, I've got a 6x54w TEK fixture that I'm putting on a 90g mixed reef. I'm going to have a good number of softies and LPS around the bottom of the rockwork and all SPS from 1/4 way to all the way up. I'm also going to have some clams on the sand bed. I currently have 2 geissman actinic plus, 3 geissman aquablue plus and 1 geissman daylight bulb. Now it's time to change bulbs and I REALLY want the colors to pop. any recommendations? Thanks a million!

02/12/2008, 05:30 PM	#529
spiderman123 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 7	Hi do you really need to turn on the actinics an hour before you turn on your daylights reason for asking the way i have my bulbs set i cant do that i have them set up like this Blue Plus ATI Actinic UVL Aquasun Blue Plus UVL 75/25 Blue Plus

02/12/2008, 05:34 PM	#530
raleej337 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fairfield, CA Posts: 151	Grim, I'm in the process of setting up a 90gal tank (48L x 18D x 24H) and can't decide which lighting should I use. I am choosing between these two: 48" 2x250W DE MH with 2x65W PC or 48" 6x54W T5 HO (independent reflectors). The tank will housed both SPS and LPS. Thanks!

02/12/2008, 08:16 PM	#532
sbcaes Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 889	hrmm hey grim i took a look at that link you sent me for the 18" nova retros. and fixtures. what is the difference in output between those bulbs vs any other bulb? im tihnking of possibly creating my own fixture with those bulbs and getting reflectors done for a 20^3 cube. woudl these bulbs give me enough par to compare or beat a 150 hqi bulb?

02/12/2008, 11:00 PM	#535
dreed Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cheyenne Wyoming Posts: 237	Alright, I figured out how I'm going to build the canopy and will go with the 6x39 retro kit from reefgeek. $439 doesn't sound like a bad price at all. I can mount the balasts outsid the back and still have room to spare by the wall. Now I need to find out what bulbs I should go with. I'm going to have some of everything in the tank save for clams. I would like it to be slightly on the blue side rather than white but will go with what is needed for growth. Should I have a separator plate of glass to prevent splashup on the bulbs? Anybody? Thanks a million! Dave

02/13/2008, 01:00 AM	#537
tinnghe Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 800	would the bulbs life shorten if it is overdriven by ic in the aquatinics solar flare? would i save more money in the long run if i do the power module instead since the bulbs will alst longer?

02/13/2008, 08:41 AM	#550
dreed Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cheyenne Wyoming Posts: 237	Awesome. I'll order here in a week and let you know how it turns out. Thanks for your time Grim. I really appreciate it. Dave