Live rock "growth" id?

ccso139 · 02/14/2008, 12:19 PM

I just bought some live rock at the LFS and found it to be covered in growth. Can someone please id and let me know if it is good or bad things?

BLKTANG · 02/14/2008, 12:25 PM

are you talking about the anenmone?(Purple)Or the green stuff? (Kelp)

BLKTANG · 02/14/2008, 12:27 PM

Didnt you scrub your LR off before you put it into your tank?

If not i would take it out,& get that "die off" off there.It will only make your tank take longer to complete the inital cycle.

Toad42013 · 02/14/2008, 12:29 PM

The anenmone looks cool. I had to scrub the kelp of my LV to

ccso139 · 02/14/2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by Toad42013
The anenmone looks cool. I had to scrub the kelp of my LV to

Kelp a bad thing? What about the anenome... good or bad?

ccso139 · 02/14/2008, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BLKTANG
Didnt you scrub your LR off before you put it into your tank?

If not i would take it out,& get that "die off" off there.It will only make your tank take longer to complete the inital cycle.

I never have scrubbed the live rock before...when I had my last tank years ago, but then again, I never got any that had so much "stuff" growing on it. If that needs to be done, I will take it out and do so.

Is the kelp and anenome good or bad?

silvers · 02/14/2008, 12:42 PM

That is not kelp it is hamilda(spelling) needs proper calicum to thrive it will turn white if it starts to dye and its not a bad thing It is commonly sold Im pretty sure that is cariban rock. The coral, algea, and anenmone are cariban and none are bad. I would leave the rock to do its thing. You got lucky with the coral I will get species name in a min. they are all over the keys and the only way to legaly get them is if they grow on aquacultured rock.

BLKTANG · 02/14/2008, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by silvers
That is not kelp it is hamilda(spelling) needs proper calicum to thrive it will turn white if it starts to dye and its not a bad thing It is commonly sold Im pretty sure that is cariban rock. The coral, algea, and anenmone are cariban and none are bad. I would leave the rock to do its thing. You got lucky with the coral I will get species name in a min. they are all over the keys and the only way to legaly get them is if they grow on aquacultured rock.

I was thinking it was a Condy? What do you think.

ccso139 · 02/14/2008, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by silvers
That is not kelp it is hamilda(spelling) needs proper calicum to thrive it will turn white if it starts to dye and its not a bad thing It is commonly sold Im pretty sure that is cariban rock. The coral, algea, and anenmone are cariban and none are bad. I would leave the rock to do its thing. You got lucky with the coral I will get species name in a min. they are all over the keys and the only way to legaly get them is if they grow on aquacultured rock.

Ok, thanks!!! Should I turn the rock toward the light for the anenome? I guess I lucked out then? He even gave me a good deal on the rocks. Included is another picture w/ other "stuff".

ccso139 · 02/14/2008, 01:39 PM

bumped for more information. Dang, these things go fast

hmello@bermexin · 02/14/2008, 01:47 PM

Are you just starting your cycle?

ccso139 · 02/14/2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by hmello@bermexin
Are you just starting your cycle?

Yes, just starting up a 55g. I am afraid that I will loose all the good things on the rocks!! Also, I have read not to run lights to hinder algae growth, so I don't know what to do. Any ideas?

hmello@bermexin · 02/14/2008, 02:02 PM

If it were me I would test ammonia daily and when I saw it reach 1.0 I would do a 10-15% water change. This will make you cycle a little longer however you will have a better chance at saving the life on your rockwork. It is called soft cycling. Yup I would do whatever I could to save the life you have.

ccso139 · 02/14/2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by hmello@bermexin
If it were me I would test ammonia daily and when I saw it reach 1.0 I would do a 10-15% water change. This will make you cycle a little longer however you will have a better chance at saving the life on your rockwork. It is called soft cycling. Yup I would do whatever I could to save the life you have.

Thanks, I do want to save all that I can!!!!

hmello@bermexin · 02/14/2008, 02:15 PM

Make sure you use ro-di or distilled water. Do not use tap water this will add to any potential algae outbreak you might experience. Also make sure the salt is mixed in the water prior to adding it to your tank and that you make the Sg as close to the same value as your tank water. Also use a heater to make the change water as close to the temp of your tank as possible. Don't know if you knew any of that but I though I would throw it out there anyway. If you did know already sorry for posting the obvious.

ccso139 · 02/14/2008, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hmello@bermexin
Make sure you use ro-di or distilled water. Do not use tap water this will add to any potential algae outbreak you might experience. Also make sure the salt is mixed in the water prior to adding it to your tank and that you make the Sg as close to the same value as your tank water. Also use a heater to make the change water as close to the temp of your tank as possible. Don't know if you knew any of that but I though I would throw it out there anyway. If you did know already sorry for posting the obvious.

Thanks, and nothing is obvious in this hobby. Well, other than you have to have water.... LOL

SuperNerd · 02/14/2008, 02:36 PM

I would personally try to keep the SG closer to NSW.

hmello@bermexin · 02/14/2008, 02:49 PM

Good point Supernerd. Did I miss what your SG is right now? Sorry if I did. Shoot for 1.024-1.025.

ccso139 · 02/14/2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by hmello@bermexin
Good point Supernerd. Did I miss what your SG is right now? Sorry if I did. Shoot for 1.024-1.025.

I am working on that now... I have it up to 1.022. What about running the lights vs algae growth?

hmello@bermexin · 02/14/2008, 03:25 PM

For the nem to live it will need lighting.

ccso139 · 02/14/2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by hmello@bermexin
For the nem to live it will need lighting.

Do I need to do anything as far as feeding it goes?

hmello@bermexin · 02/14/2008, 05:32 PM

I would not worry about feeding it now the goal is to keep the ammonia below 1.0 Maybe someone else can chime in here on whether they think it will make it through a soft cycle or not.

ccso139 · 02/14/2008, 07:16 PM

Anyone id things in 3rd picture?

BLKTANG · 02/14/2008, 07:27 PM

I see a big A$$ bristle worm i think in the 3rd pic.

IMHO,i doubt that anything will live through your cycle,because of all the die off on that liverock.

ccso139 · 02/14/2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by BLKTANG
I see a big A$$ bristle worm i think in the 3rd pic.

IMHO,i doubt that anything will live through your cycle,because of all the die off on that liverock.

I does look very "worm" like....it is probably 6" long, but I believe it is dead. I am along w/ u on everything will probably die during the cycle, but I am crossing my fingers anyway.

02/14/2008, 12:19 PM	#1
ccso139 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Newnan, GA Posts: 98	Live rock "growth" id? I just bought some live rock at the LFS and found it to be covered in growth. Can someone please id and let me know if it is good or bad things?

02/14/2008, 12:25 PM	#2
BLKTANG Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Never,Never Land Posts: 7,061	are you talking about the anenmone?(Purple)Or the green stuff? (Kelp) __________________ We the few have done so much,for so long,for so little.That we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. ____________________________________________________________________________ Current Tank Info: RR 90 Maganvore sump,250w Hamilton fixture,VorTec's ASM skimmer.

02/14/2008, 12:27 PM	#3
BLKTANG Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Never,Never Land Posts: 7,061	Didnt you scrub your LR off before you put it into your tank? If not i would take it out,& get that "die off" off there.It will only make your tank take longer to complete the inital cycle. __________________ We the few have done so much,for so long,for so little.That we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. ____________________________________________________________________________ Current Tank Info: RR 90 Maganvore sump,250w Hamilton fixture,VorTec's ASM skimmer.

02/14/2008, 12:42 PM	#7
silvers Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ga Posts: 356	That is not kelp it is hamilda(spelling) needs proper calicum to thrive it will turn white if it starts to dye and its not a bad thing It is commonly sold Im pretty sure that is cariban rock. The coral, algea, and anenmone are cariban and none are bad. I would leave the rock to do its thing. You got lucky with the coral I will get species name in a min. they are all over the keys and the only way to legaly get them is if they grow on aquacultured rock. __________________ Lord knows Im weak wont somebody get me off this reef-Sublime Current Tank Info: 120g

02/14/2008, 01:47 PM	#11
hmello@bermexin Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,205	Are you just starting your cycle? __________________ Henry Somewhere something incredible is waiting to be known. Current Tank Info: 29g BioCube, AI SOL 12" Super Blue

02/14/2008, 12:29 PM	#4
Toad42013 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 185	The anenmone looks cool. I had to scrub the kelp of my LV to

02/14/2008, 01:39 PM	#10
ccso139 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Newnan, GA Posts: 98	bumped for more information. Dang, these things go fast

02/14/2008, 02:02 PM	#13
hmello@bermexin Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,205	If it were me I would test ammonia daily and when I saw it reach 1.0 I would do a 10-15% water change. This will make you cycle a little longer however you will have a better chance at saving the life on your rockwork. It is called soft cycling. Yup I would do whatever I could to save the life you have. __________________ Henry Somewhere something incredible is waiting to be known. Current Tank Info: 29g BioCube, AI SOL 12" Super Blue

02/14/2008, 02:15 PM	#15
hmello@bermexin Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,205	Make sure you use ro-di or distilled water. Do not use tap water this will add to any potential algae outbreak you might experience. Also make sure the salt is mixed in the water prior to adding it to your tank and that you make the Sg as close to the same value as your tank water. Also use a heater to make the change water as close to the temp of your tank as possible. Don't know if you knew any of that but I though I would throw it out there anyway. If you did know already sorry for posting the obvious. __________________ Henry Somewhere something incredible is waiting to be known. Current Tank Info: 29g BioCube, AI SOL 12" Super Blue

02/14/2008, 02:36 PM	#17
SuperNerd Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: SoCal/Left Side- USA Posts: 4,572	I would personally try to keep the SG closer to NSW. __________________ I said fraggit! Current Tank Info: M-728 Combat Engineer (based on M60 hull). M-3 Lee Medium (British version with squatter).

02/14/2008, 02:49 PM	#18
hmello@bermexin Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,205	Good point Supernerd. Did I miss what your SG is right now? Sorry if I did. Shoot for 1.024-1.025. __________________ Henry Somewhere something incredible is waiting to be known. Current Tank Info: 29g BioCube, AI SOL 12" Super Blue

02/14/2008, 03:25 PM	#20
hmello@bermexin Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,205	For the nem to live it will need lighting. __________________ Henry Somewhere something incredible is waiting to be known. Current Tank Info: 29g BioCube, AI SOL 12" Super Blue

02/14/2008, 05:32 PM	#22
hmello@bermexin Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,205	I would not worry about feeding it now the goal is to keep the ammonia below 1.0 Maybe someone else can chime in here on whether they think it will make it through a soft cycle or not. __________________ Henry Somewhere something incredible is waiting to be known. Current Tank Info: 29g BioCube, AI SOL 12" Super Blue

02/14/2008, 07:16 PM	#23
ccso139 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Newnan, GA Posts: 98	Anyone id things in 3rd picture?

02/14/2008, 07:27 PM	#24
BLKTANG Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Never,Never Land Posts: 7,061	I see a big A$$ bristle worm i think in the 3rd pic. IMHO,i doubt that anything will live through your cycle,because of all the die off on that liverock. __________________ We the few have done so much,for so long,for so little.That we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. ____________________________________________________________________________ Current Tank Info: RR 90 Maganvore sump,250w Hamilton fixture,VorTec's ASM skimmer.