stainless steel hose clamps underwater?

jvdb · 04/18/2008, 12:16 AM

Can stainless steel hose clamps like these:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...52&pcatid=4052

Be used underwater?

Thanks

FBNitro · 04/18/2008, 12:23 AM

I believe those are only intended for outside the tank. Inside the tank I would use these:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...fm?pcatid=8999

pong · 04/18/2008, 12:37 AM

i would say no... those things, even though they
claim to be stainless... it still rusts...

it takes a bit longer though...

maybe 1 week extra

ihavtats29 · 04/18/2008, 12:42 AM

zip ties work great after hand tight use a pair of side cutters flat against the lock of the zip tie dont cut it but grab it and give it a twist and repeat when it is tight enough the tail will snap clean

jvdb · 04/18/2008, 01:11 AM

Unfortunately in my application I need stronger hose clamps. The plastic ones aren't holding.

I will ask on the drsfostersmith forum if the screw and band are both stainless like these ones:

http://www.aquaticeco.com/subcategor...in-175-max-dia

tb27272 · 04/18/2008, 05:25 AM

Try a large set of zip ties, some of them have a tensile strength well over a 100 lbs

tb27272 · 04/18/2008, 05:25 AM

Even better than side cutters are a pair of pliers meant for stretching bicycle shift/brake cables.

talon4x4 · 04/18/2008, 05:51 AM

Before I knew much of anything (not that I know much of anything now) I used SS clamps in my tank. It didn't take long for the saltwater to rust them. By them time I noticed it they were completely covered in rust. Thankfully no harm was done.

masonicman · 04/18/2008, 06:08 AM

I use these on my mag protein skimmer pump. very strong clamp. Home depot or Loews should have them.

http://www.waytekwire.com/plastic-hose-clamp.htm

jim.l · 04/18/2008, 06:25 AM

The plastic type shown by masonicman work fine. Squeeze them together with pliers and they won't loosen. I used them for several years on Iwaki to protein skimmer that was blowing off when FPL started playing flicker and flash with the power. I bought them at Lowes, plumbing section. Wentnto them because SS clamps were rusting on me. I thing you must get much higher than 310ss to not rust under salt water. I seem to remember 1800ss from my boating days?

snorvich · 04/18/2008, 07:41 AM

I second masonicman. I simply do not trust anything metal in contact with sea water.

Savas · 04/18/2008, 08:59 AM

One more vote not to use stainless or any metal in the tank. I have used various stainless steel parts at the beach - not my tank - and they all rust or pit. Plastics are the way to go. They do make metal clamps covered in a vinyl product, but I do not have a link to any.

cczarnik · 04/18/2008, 10:03 AM

They do make titanium hose clamps if you really need the strength of a worm drive..

http://titan-marine-hardware.com/tit...ose-clamps.htm

jvdb · 04/18/2008, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cczarnik
They do make titanium hose clamps if you really need the strength of a worm drive..

http://titan-marine-hardware.com/tit...ose-clamps.htm

Thanks for the link!

tmz · 04/18/2008, 11:02 PM

Do not use them in the water they will deteriorate and place metals in your tank water.

Flipper62 · 04/18/2008, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ihavtats29
zip ties work great after hand tight use a pair of side cutters flat against the lock of the zip tie dont cut it but grab it and give it a twist and repeat when it is tight enough the tail will snap clean

BINGO............................HOLD your cards......we have a bingo in the back row...

works for me..

sidd129 · 04/19/2008, 04:03 AM

If you tell us how you plan on useing them we might come up with better ideas.
One of the problems with stainless is that it is not pure stainless.

Denbf58 · 04/19/2008, 05:57 AM

you have to remember stain- less it will rust it just take longer

sabbath · 04/19/2008, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tmz
Do not use them in the water they will deteriorate and place metals in your tank water.

If that is the case then I should get my titanium heater and temp probe out.

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...6&pcatid=13966

Justdrew · 04/19/2008, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sabbath
If that is the case then I should get my titanium heater and temp probe out.

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...6&pcatid=13966

They are referring to the stainless ones, not the titanium ones.

tmz · 04/19/2008, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Justdrew
They are referring to the stainless ones, not the titanium ones.

Thanks, the stainless is what I was referng to.

wiscsaltwater · 04/19/2008, 10:36 AM

Ive had stainless clamps underwater for over 2 years, a little discolored but not rusting and it hasnt affected my corals or my tank at all.

sabbath · 04/19/2008, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tmz
Thanks, the stainless is what I was referng to.

Oh OK Cool. I think I going to get some of those Titanium ones for my Mag pumps.

04/18/2008, 12:16 AM	#1
jvdb Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UT Posts: 254	stainless steel hose clamps underwater? Can stainless steel hose clamps like these: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...52&pcatid=4052 Be used underwater? Thanks

04/18/2008, 12:42 AM	#4
ihavtats29 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cordova , TN Posts: 2,882	zip ties work great after hand tight use a pair of side cutters flat against the lock of the zip tie dont cut it but grab it and give it a twist and repeat when it is tight enough the tail will snap clean __________________ got reef? Current Tank Info: 29 biocube HQI

04/18/2008, 06:08 AM	#9
masonicman Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 1,313	I use these on my mag protein skimmer pump. very strong clamp. Home depot or Loews should have them. http://www.waytekwire.com/plastic-hose-clamp.htm __________________ It is better to ask for forgiveness then to ask for permission.......... Current Tank Info: 75 gal mixed reef, 216w LED, Remora Pro skimmer, HOB fuge, 400w htr, ATO RO/DI, 90lbs LR and 1" SB.

04/18/2008, 06:25 AM	#10
jim.l Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SE. Florida Posts: 608	The plastic type shown by masonicman work fine. Squeeze them together with pliers and they won't loosen. I used them for several years on Iwaki to protein skimmer that was blowing off when FPL started playing flicker and flash with the power. I bought them at Lowes, plumbing section. Wentnto them because SS clamps were rusting on me. I thing you must get much higher than 310ss to not rust under salt water. I seem to remember 1800ss from my boating days? __________________ Jim Current Tank Info: 150 reef, soft, hard, SPS

04/18/2008, 07:41 AM	#11
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	I second masonicman. I simply do not trust anything metal in contact with sea water. __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

04/18/2008, 12:23 AM	#2
FBNitro Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 641	I believe those are only intended for outside the tank. Inside the tank I would use these: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...fm?pcatid=8999

04/18/2008, 12:37 AM	#3
pong Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: philippines Posts: 600	i would say no... those things, even though they claim to be stainless... it still rusts... it takes a bit longer though... maybe 1 week extra

04/18/2008, 01:11 AM	#5
jvdb Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UT Posts: 254	Unfortunately in my application I need stronger hose clamps. The plastic ones aren't holding. I will ask on the drsfostersmith forum if the screw and band are both stainless like these ones: http://www.aquaticeco.com/subcategor...in-175-max-dia

04/18/2008, 05:25 AM	#6
tb27272 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: boone, nc Posts: 332	Try a large set of zip ties, some of them have a tensile strength well over a 100 lbs

04/18/2008, 05:51 AM	#8
talon4x4 Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,559	Before I knew much of anything (not that I know much of anything now) I used SS clamps in my tank. It didn't take long for the saltwater to rust them. By them time I noticed it they were completely covered in rust. Thankfully no harm was done.

04/18/2008, 08:59 AM	#12
Savas Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Maryland / St. Thomas once a month Posts: 764	One more vote not to use stainless or any metal in the tank. I have used various stainless steel parts at the beach - not my tank - and they all rust or pit. Plastics are the way to go. They do make metal clamps covered in a vinyl product, but I do not have a link to any. __________________ If you can get your wife hooked into reef keeping, you can spend all the money you want! Current Tank Info: 24 gallon Aquapod Nanotuners 4.32 T-5 lighting upgrade; 24 gallon Aquapod with stock power compacts and actinic lighting; 12 gallon Aquapod with stock power compacts and actinic lighting.

04/18/2008, 10:03 AM	#13
cczarnik Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Franklin, TN Posts: 433	They do make titanium hose clamps if you really need the strength of a worm drive.. http://titan-marine-hardware.com/tit...ose-clamps.htm

04/18/2008, 11:02 PM	#15
tmz ReefKeeping Mag staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Seneca NY Posts: 27,691	Do not use them in the water they will deteriorate and place metals in your tank water. __________________ Tom Current Tank Info: Tank of the Month , November 2011 : 600gal integrated system: 3 display tanks (120 g, 90g, 89g),several frag/grow out tanks, macroalgae refugia, cryptic zones. 40+ fish, seahorses, sps,lps,leathers, zoanthidae and non photosynthetic corals.

04/19/2008, 04:03 AM	#17
sidd129 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tomahawk, WI Posts: 543	If you tell us how you plan on useing them we might come up with better ideas. One of the problems with stainless is that it is not pure stainless.

04/19/2008, 05:57 AM	#18
Denbf58 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: selden N.Y. Posts: 885	you have to remember stain- less it will rust it just take longer __________________ Life is good Current Tank Info: 75gal reef ready koralia 3, 30g sump, 4b 48" t5s lighting, 29g reef with breeding pair clowns 55g reef 55g freshwater

04/19/2008, 10:36 AM	#22
wiscsaltwater Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 429	Ive had stainless clamps underwater for over 2 years, a little discolored but not rusting and it hasnt affected my corals or my tank at all. __________________ I have a 10g tank, how many tangs can i keep in it? Current Tank Info: 550g salt, 55g salt, 29g salt