MG test kit elos or salifert

GSMguy · 05/21/2008, 07:20 PM

i need a new MG kit i am going to a LFS tomorrow that sells salifert are there MG kits accurate or should i get another ELOS shipped to me, price is of no concern but accuracy and ease of use is.

graveyardworm · 05/21/2008, 08:01 PM

Salifert Mg kits are good.

mpoletti · 05/21/2008, 08:05 PM

Nick,

Elos. I do not trust salifert and I will never buy one of their products again.

ooja3k · 05/21/2008, 08:10 PM

Without a doubt,

Elos.

JOSE CASAS · 05/21/2008, 08:58 PM

Elos...................That all i have to say!

Semper Fi 1959 · 05/21/2008, 09:11 PM

uh oh, I just bought a bunch of salifert kits for CA, KH, PH etc. is this not a good test kit?

GSMguy · 05/21/2008, 09:19 PM

thanks guys, thats what i thought, just making sure.

i will order it right now it will be here friday since Phishy business is only an hour away.

ooja3k · 05/21/2008, 09:27 PM

I believe salifert are ok... I have heard issues with accuracy....

But i know!, that Elos are great!

mpoletti · 05/21/2008, 09:57 PM

I lost over a thousand dollars worth of corals due to saliferts "problems". Thats was enough for me

craiglanda · 05/21/2008, 11:37 PM

i use both...they each have their advantages and disadvantages. The elos kit only goes in 75ppm increments but the color is easy to see. The salifert mag kit has much more attenuation but i find it the hardest color change to see of all of the salifert kits.

Reefer08 · 05/22/2008, 01:12 AM

for everyone using the elos, are you having problems with it also? It says to multiply each drop by 100 but then I have magnesium levels of 1600. The 75 makes more logical sense since ive never dosed magnesium but i dont understand why it says to multiply by 100 in the instructions.

Ian · 05/22/2008, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by craiglanda
i use both...they each have their advantages and disadvantages. The elos kit only goes in 75ppm increments but the color is easy to see. The salifert mag kit has much more attenuation but i find it the hardest color change to see of all of the salifert kits.

+1 for Elos...

where did you get 75ppm??

I agree, salifert kits are junk. There was a long period where the sali kits were way off. Many people I know, now refuse to use them.......

craiglanda · 05/22/2008, 01:33 AM

Inside the box...the sleeve that gives the directions...

Billybeau1 · 05/22/2008, 05:13 AM

There was only 1 month produced whick gave readings in 75 ppm increments. I believe it was 12/07 if I remember correctly. All other kits are 100 ppm.

You can also double the water sample to get you to 50 ppm increments but of course, you will use more reagents.

I have no issues anymore with any Salifert kit. They still make the best kit out there for hobby grade kits.

I can certainly understand some reluctance to use them due to past issues however, they seem to be resolved and they are still one of the most accurate kits for the money.

ooja3k · 05/22/2008, 09:33 AM

The Elos Mg that gave 75ppm increments was 12/09. There was a thread in the elos forum discussing it.

Billybeau1 · 05/22/2008, 09:43 AM

I knew it was 12 something.

Thanks Ryan

stunreefer · 05/22/2008, 09:45 AM

I use ELOS for Mg. and PO4. I'm very happy with them. i use LaMotte kits for Ca and Alk. I used to use Salifert, but do not anymore, and probably will not. My Salifert Alk. kit (that i still have) reads 1dKH high all the time. My previous Salifert Alk. kit did as well.

For Mg, I say ELOS all the way. Easy to run, easy to see color change, and cheap!

MammothReefer · 05/22/2008, 10:44 AM

I used to use salifert, but I recently bought a new ALK salifert, and it was totally off.. I compared it to 2 seprate elos kits, and an "older" alk kit.. both elos, and the older salifert matched, the new salifert was off by over 2.5 points.....

oh my elos mag is by 100 also.. says i have 1200 doh! need to raise that sucker up!

cato · 05/23/2008, 05:23 PM

Elos

JOSE CASAS · 05/23/2008, 05:39 PM

Is it 75 or 100 per drop?When i test i get 17 drops and if i multiply by 75 it is 1275 instead of 1700 which seems way off.

Ian · 05/23/2008, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Billybeau1
There was only 1 month produced whick gave readings in 75 ppm increments. I believe it was 12/07 if I remember correctly. All other kits are 100 ppm.

You can also double the water sample to get you to 50 ppm increments but of course, you will use more reagents.

I have no issues anymore with any Salifert kit. They still make the best kit out there for hobby grade kits.

I can certainly understand some reluctance to use them due to past issues however, they seem to be resolved and they are still one of the most accurate kits for the money.

DevilBoy · 05/23/2008, 06:54 PM

Nick,

Elos all the way... i will never buy a salifert product ever again.

My MG kit is 100 ppm per drop.

cato · 05/23/2008, 07:30 PM

Mine is 100 ppm/drop as well.

ooja3k · 05/23/2008, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JOSE CASAS
Is it 75 or 100 per drop?When i test i get 17 drops and if i multiply by 75 it is 1275 instead of 1700 which seems way off.

The Elos Mg that gave 75ppm increments was 12/09. There was a thread in the elos forum discussing it.

If the expiration date stamped on the back of the box says 12/09 then it was one of the batches produced that is 75ppm per drop. In my 12/09 kit, the instructions still say 100ppm per drop, but that was incorrect.

Here is the link to the thread.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1303625

smatter · 05/23/2008, 07:46 PM

Aside from the recent alk test issue, I have never had a problem with Salifert.

05/21/2008, 07:20 PM	#1
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	MG test kit elos or salifert i need a new MG kit i am going to a LFS tomorrow that sells salifert are there MG kits accurate or should i get another ELOS shipped to me, price is of no concern but accuracy and ease of use is. __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.

05/21/2008, 08:01 PM	#2
graveyardworm Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nottingham, NH Posts: 7,251	Salifert Mg kits are good. __________________ -David- President - New Hampshire Reef Club There’ll be no one to save, with the world in a grave Current Tank Info: 100 gal lagoon/seagrass, 100 gal sump, Lifereef 72" skimmer, 180 inwall, 125 inwall seagrass/lagoon in progress

05/21/2008, 08:05 PM	#3
mpoletti You'll never walk alone Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 18,245	Nick, Elos. I do not trust salifert and I will never buy one of their products again. __________________ -Mark a.) I believe... The curse is a reality b.) Fish poop is your friend c.) Why chase numbers? #CoralsLiketoDisco #ReefSerenity

05/21/2008, 08:10 PM	#4
ooja3k The Reef Producer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Costa Mesa Posts: 1,192	Without a doubt, Elos. __________________ -Ryan PBITAWA

05/21/2008, 09:19 PM	#7
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	thanks guys, thats what i thought, just making sure. i will order it right now it will be here friday since Phishy business is only an hour away. __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.

05/21/2008, 08:58 PM	#5
JOSE CASAS Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fullerton, Califas Posts: 3,269	Elos...................That all i have to say!

05/21/2008, 09:11 PM	#6
Semper Fi 1959 Moved On Join Date: May 2008 Location: Corner of Alexander and Grove, 4th floor Apt. 20 Posts: 462	uh oh, I just bought a bunch of salifert kits for CA, KH, PH etc. is this not a good test kit?

05/21/2008, 09:27 PM	#8
ooja3k The Reef Producer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Costa Mesa Posts: 1,192	I believe salifert are ok... I have heard issues with accuracy.... But i know!, that Elos are great! __________________ -Ryan PBITAWA

05/21/2008, 09:57 PM	#9
mpoletti You'll never walk alone Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sacramento, Ca Posts: 18,245	I lost over a thousand dollars worth of corals due to saliferts "problems". Thats was enough for me __________________ -Mark a.) I believe... The curse is a reality b.) Fish poop is your friend c.) Why chase numbers? #CoralsLiketoDisco #ReefSerenity

05/21/2008, 11:37 PM	#10
craiglanda Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,548	i use both...they each have their advantages and disadvantages. The elos kit only goes in 75ppm increments but the color is easy to see. The salifert mag kit has much more attenuation but i find it the hardest color change to see of all of the salifert kits. __________________ Beware of the fish people, they are the true enemy. - Frank Zappa

05/22/2008, 01:12 AM	#11
Reefer08 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,812	for everyone using the elos, are you having problems with it also? It says to multiply each drop by 100 but then I have magnesium levels of 1600. The 75 makes more logical sense since ive never dosed magnesium but i dont understand why it says to multiply by 100 in the instructions.

05/22/2008, 01:33 AM	#13
craiglanda Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,548	Inside the box...the sleeve that gives the directions... __________________ Beware of the fish people, they are the true enemy. - Frank Zappa

05/22/2008, 05:13 AM	#14
Billybeau1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dyer, Indiana Posts: 12,010	There was only 1 month produced whick gave readings in 75 ppm increments. I believe it was 12/07 if I remember correctly. All other kits are 100 ppm. You can also double the water sample to get you to 50 ppm increments but of course, you will use more reagents. I have no issues anymore with any Salifert kit. They still make the best kit out there for hobby grade kits. I can certainly understand some reluctance to use them due to past issues however, they seem to be resolved and they are still one of the most accurate kits for the money.

05/22/2008, 09:33 AM	#15
ooja3k The Reef Producer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Costa Mesa Posts: 1,192	The Elos Mg that gave 75ppm increments was 12/09. There was a thread in the elos forum discussing it. __________________ -Ryan PBITAWA

05/22/2008, 09:43 AM	#16
Billybeau1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dyer, Indiana Posts: 12,010	I knew it was 12 something. Thanks Ryan

05/22/2008, 09:45 AM	#17
stunreefer Reef Hugger Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Submerged Posts: 3,253	I use ELOS for Mg. and PO4. I'm very happy with them. i use LaMotte kits for Ca and Alk. I used to use Salifert, but do not anymore, and probably will not. My Salifert Alk. kit (that i still have) reads 1dKH high all the time. My previous Salifert Alk. kit did as well. For Mg, I say ELOS all the way. Easy to run, easy to see color change, and cheap! __________________ -Austin Make your animals Thrive, not just Survive.

05/22/2008, 10:44 AM	#18
MammothReefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mammoth Lakes, CA Posts: 3,442	I used to use salifert, but I recently bought a new ALK salifert, and it was totally off.. I compared it to 2 seprate elos kits, and an "older" alk kit.. both elos, and the older salifert matched, the new salifert was off by over 2.5 points..... oh my elos mag is by 100 also.. says i have 1200 doh! need to raise that sucker up! __________________ Reefin @ 8298' Current Tank Info: 105 Peninsula

05/23/2008, 05:23 PM	#19
cato New England Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CT Posts: 5,450	Elos __________________ -Cato I swear it's an illness... Current Tank Info: On Hiatus

05/23/2008, 05:39 PM	#20
JOSE CASAS Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fullerton, Califas Posts: 3,269	Is it 75 or 100 per drop?When i test i get 17 drops and if i multiply by 75 it is 1275 instead of 1700 which seems way off.

05/23/2008, 06:54 PM	#22
DevilBoy Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Wooster, Ohio Posts: 1,724	Nick, Elos all the way... i will never buy a salifert product ever again. My MG kit is 100 ppm per drop.

05/23/2008, 07:30 PM	#23
cato New England Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CT Posts: 5,450	Mine is 100 ppm/drop as well. __________________ -Cato I swear it's an illness... Current Tank Info: On Hiatus

05/23/2008, 07:46 PM	#25
smatter Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,055	Aside from the recent alk test issue, I have never had a problem with Salifert.