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Unread 05/26/2008, 03:48 PM   #26
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You really know your way around a lens, Jim.


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Unread 05/26/2008, 04:19 PM   #27
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I ordered the pendant but never noticed it was the same mounting as the reflectors. That places the bulb fairly low in the pendant, would it not.

And after reading the suggested height for the pendant, gives the same amount of light spillage as any reflector. My initial though, {mistaked from the DE pendant}, was that the bulb was high in the 10in. body.

This was to go over my 45g cube.


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Nice shots! any FTS's by chance? I heard he redid his rockwork?


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Unread 05/27/2008, 08:11 AM   #29
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Nice shots Jim. You are always welcome to anything fragable in my tank. I really need to get a better camera and start taking some decent pics my self.

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Unread 05/27/2008, 08:34 AM   #30
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here is 4 mos growth with my LB's.




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Unread 05/27/2008, 08:37 AM   #31
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***OUTSTANDING!***

That is outstanding growth. Great job Glxtrix! And with 175watters


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Unread 05/27/2008, 08:51 AM   #32
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Heh, thanks....and not to mention that my CA reactor was only hooked up for the last month is that pic. I can't wait till my next 4 month pic...that will be in sept. I must say I'm extremely happy with my 175W'ers....definitely have to be careful with new corals I add, I've fried a few


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Unread 05/27/2008, 09:38 AM   #34
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How big of a square tank could you put a single lumenbright mini over and get decent coverage (think SPS in the middle and LPS/low light on the outside). ..say 400watt SE.


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Unread 05/27/2008, 09:55 AM   #35
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I'd say 24"x24" to get full coverage. As far as "decent" coverage, I think it just depends on how much dim area you find to be acceptable as aesthetically pleasing.


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Unread 05/27/2008, 10:51 AM   #36
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You really know your way around a lens, Jim.
Thanks Marc,

Shooting tanks is tough especially with big gleaming lumenbrights over them Keeper rate is very small typically.

chrissreef: unfortunately I don't have a full tank shot for you. What I will have is some video that I took of the tank. I have to figure out how to post this hi-def video on the web for everyone to see.

But in the meantime, I do have an obligation to our editor, so it will have to wait until that is done. Right Marc?

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Unread 05/27/2008, 10:52 AM   #37
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How big of a square tank could you put a single lumenbright mini over and get decent coverage (think SPS in the middle and LPS/low light on the outside). ..say 400watt SE.
I'd probably suggest a 250w bulb if you plan to have 10,000K or 12,000K lighting. If you wanted true blue 20,000K, then go with the 400w bulb.

I agree about 24 x 24 x 24 for the mini, and it should be up pretty high off the water, putting the bulb about 14" off the water's surface IIRC.


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Unread 05/27/2008, 11:03 AM   #38
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But in the meantime, I do have an obligation to our editor, so it will have to wait until that is done. Right Marc?

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Right! /cracking the whip/

Be sure to check your SENT box as well. And look at your INBOX 'from the beginning' to make sure you've eliminated all the PMs you don't need any longer.


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I have a 210 that is 72"l x 24"w x 29"h. I want to do SPS with clams on the 4" sand. I was hoping to avoid going to 400 watters. Do you think 250's in the Lumenbrights will suffice? To answer the questions asked on this thread, I will have three towers of live rock, with two of the towers being connected by "shelving" rock.

Even though the width is 24", it is roughly 20" if you take away the 2 overflows in the background. Should I guess that the mini's would be better for me?

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Unread 05/27/2008, 06:49 PM   #40
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Unread 05/27/2008, 08:10 PM   #41
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What is the lowest rise off the water for these reflectors? I would like to go no higher than 15" up, preferably 12".

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Unread 05/27/2008, 08:33 PM   #42
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Lowest I would advise is 15" from water surface to bulb. Which is around 12" from the botom of the reflector to the water surface.


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Here are a couple recent tank pics about 5 and a half months apart. I am pretty satisfied with the growth and the color is great. The last few months has been one long growth spurt. The six months prior were obviously new tank syndrome, just getting settled into a balanced system. I have experienced several coral over the past year or so morphing color. I have had a grey acro go ice blue, a green acro go turqouise blue, a mille turn pink on the inside with blue tips, and a humilis morph from brown to green. I know the one thing I am lacking is a calcium reactor as far as growth is concerned. I have been using 2 part E.S.V. for 13 year snow and have never had a reason to need a calcium reactor. I have E.S.V. close to threshold right now with the amount I am dosing. You never want to use more than 1ml per part per gallon. Once you get there you need to move on to some supplement or a reactor. I have never used Kalkwasser and I am not about to start. Again I will sacrifice growth for some color right now. I know these are not the best comparison shots as I did a lot of rearranging since December. The next six month shot will be more telling.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by glxtrix
[B]here is 4 mos growth with my LB's.

Very nice work glixtrix. I like the overlay. Please tell all. How did you do it? That is a really nice comparison in terms of growth over the last four months. Sweet 175's and great crossover light stacking them up on each other like that. I will guarantee your coral is getting hit on all sides thanks to your design. Sometimes more is better and in this case by reducing to 175w bulbs. I saw the numbers and they were very acceptable.

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Unread 05/28/2008, 06:31 AM   #45
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Should the mini's be ok for a 210?


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I have a 210 that is 72"l x 24"w x 29"h. I want to do SPS with clams on the 4" sand. I was hoping to avoid going to 400 watters. Do you think 250's in the Lumenbrights will suffice? To answer the questions asked on this thread, I will have three towers of live rock, with two of the towers being connected by "shelving" rock.

Even though the width is 24", it is roughly 20" if you take away the 2 overflows in the background. Should I guess that the mini's would be better for me?

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Minis will do just fine on any 24" wide tank. If you want to grow SPS with 250's on the bottom you should be just fine. I would not place really light demanding coral down there. Best way to know is to borrow a PAR meter and see what you get. Pleopel were posting 300 + at the bottom of 24" so that should be a decent reference. As far as clams go, maximas will not do well on the bottom of your 29" deep tank with 250's, and croceas would be pushing it unless they were X-Large or you were using 10K's. Derasa clams should be fine there. Hopefully that helps.

As far as wanting to place them minimally 15" and preferrably 12" - do you mean bulb to surface or bottom of the reflector to the surface?


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I ordered the pendant but never noticed it was the same mounting as the reflectors. That places the bulb fairly low in the pendant, would it not.

And after reading the suggested height for the pendant, gives the same amount of light spillage as any reflector. My initial though, {mistaked from the DE pendant}, was that the bulb was high in the 10in. body.

This was to go over my 45g cube.
So form reading since this post, I gather the bulbs are only about 3 in. inside the reflector?


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Tanks Looking good Jim. I am still diggin your old rock landscape more though. I know you have some close up shots. Come on camera man lets see some pics..

Clams will be fine in Lauds tank as long as he keeps his Deep sand bed. Which will leave the clams 24" or less from the surface of the water. I would place clams on rocks anyways. I plan on a small island just for the clams.


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here is 4 mos growth with my LB's.

Very nice work glixtrix. I like the overlay. Please tell all. How did you do it? That is a really nice comparison in terms of growth over the last four months. Sweet 175's and great crossover light stacking them up on each other like that. I will guarantee your coral is getting hit on all sides thanks to your design. Sometimes more is better and in this case by reducing to 175w bulbs. I saw the numbers and they were very acceptable.

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Why thank you sir I'm very pleased with the results. I stare at my tank all the time when I'm home and thought there was no growth...so this over lay really helped out. It's fairly simple to do in Photoshop. In short, you make 1 file (working area) and add all the layers you want to it (make sure each pic is a separate layer) Once you have all in that you want, align them best you can. Obviously a tripod would be best for these type of pics. Goto window-animation...an animation track window will pop up, here you should see the layers that you have. If 1 seems to be missing, make sure its not locked in the layers window to the right. If it is, just right click it and select layer from background and click ok. Now the fun part. In the animation window, you can move the tabs to what ever set amount of frames you want. I used 15 frames I think. The next layer, move the start to the end of the layer above and set the end of that one 15 frames....and so on. Once you're set, there is a blue tab just under the area where you see the frame numbers, you can move that to the end of the animation. Once its all done you can click the play button to "view" it and see if you like it. If all is good, goto file-save for web and devices. A new window will pop up showing the file. At the far right under the color swatch, change the "looping options" to Forever. The click the play button right under that and make sure it loops. Stop that and click save. Pretty much all the settings in the window should be fine. At the bottom left of this window shows the file size. You can adjust the settings near the color swatch to lower the quality which will lower the file size....but you shouldn't need to do that. Once its saved, load it to any picture sharing site and link the address. BAM! Ok, that was longer than expected, if anyone has any questions, feel free to PM me. Oh yeah, I also did this in PS CS3....I know the CS editions are pretty much the same, and the earlier versions should be very similar.


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Earlier versions don't have animation in photoshop. It will be found in Adobe Image Ready. And like glxtrix stated it is very easy to do. You also have to save the file as a gif inorder to view the animation.


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