Cannister filter in reef what media?

heller792 · 05/27/2008, 12:23 PM

Hi i am currently running a canister filter ( Eheim 2028 Pro II ) in my reef tank with loads of live rock and an instant ocean skimm 800. The canister has 3 chambers and a sponge but i belive there is disadvantages with running cannister filters in the reef and would like the opinion of everyone as to what media to use or non and just use it for circulation and if thats the case how will i collect small dirt particles. The tank is only 170 litres so i am over skimming it.

Many thanks Dave.

sassafrass · 05/27/2008, 12:49 PM

you can run carbon or phosphate remover if you are having a nutrient problem ,I personally use no mechanical filtration just a good skimmer with ozone. the ozone made the water much clearer .
Regards, Lee

tankjunky · 05/27/2008, 02:12 PM

Im running a fluval 405 and a rena filstar xp, I run sponges and carbon and phosban. I also have an aqua c remora skimmer. my water is very clear. But you mite want to get a power head for your tank because the current thos two wasnt enof for my 80gallon tank.

heller792 · 05/27/2008, 03:04 PM

Junky , how often do you clean your sponges?

tankjunky · 05/27/2008, 03:36 PM

Im starting to clean them with every water change, wich I do once a month, but befor I did it like whenenver I felt like it wich was like one every 3 or 4 months

tankjunky · 05/27/2008, 03:37 PM

actualy I alternate on the cleaning of them. so every two months

rhkingsfan · 05/27/2008, 03:40 PM

I'm running two eheim canisters in my tank. The media I use is for the first one: floss, biomedia, chemipure elite and purigen. The second one I run regular chemipure, purigen and phosban.

On the canister with filter floss, I try to clean out the floss every month or so.

I have a Remora Pro skimmer.

Don't listen to me though, my nitrates are at 20 ppm and I can't seem to get them down even with 15% water changes every week.

I think I'm overfeeding (one frozen cube a day), but those darn anthias keep begging for food everytime I walk by.

tankjunky · 05/27/2008, 03:45 PM

I would let your fish get used to not eating every day. I feed mine once in the morning and they always come to the top when I put my hand near the top but none of them died yet so id just get them used to beibg fed once a day.

CassAttack · 05/28/2008, 10:41 AM

i have a fluval and a skimmer- i keep live rock rubble in the fluval along with carbon bags that i change out about once a month. in terms of getting nitrates down- ya know what worked really well for me? a crocea clam- noticeable difference! if you have the right lighting that is

rhkingsfan · 05/28/2008, 06:17 PM

Is there any evidence that crocea clams reduce nitrates? I have two and my nitrates are still high (higher than before I got them - not that they are the problem).

Aquarist007 · 05/28/2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by tankjunky
I would let your fish get used to not eating every day. I feed mine once in the morning and they always come to the top when I put my hand near the top but none of them died yet so id just get them used to beibg fed once a day.

I am assuming you are advocating feeding your fish once a day==read the first sentence again

I think that depends on the fish you have eg tangs are grazers they need to be feed a few times a day even if it is nori or an algae sticky on the side of the tank.
I believe anthias require multiple feeds a day??

Aquarist007 · 05/28/2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by rhkingsfan
Is there any evidence that crocea clams reduce nitrates? I have two and my nitrates are still high (higher than before I got them - not that they are the problem).

they do but very little--by the time a corcea matures 95 per cent of its energy is supplied by its algae in its mantle.

a better source of nitrate reduction would be running a refugium with cheato macroalgae

HABS#1 · 05/29/2008, 08:26 AM

We run a marineland C360 with ROWAPhos and carbon and ceramic bio disks and bioballs in it we also run a few Koralia powerheads in our tank.

Playa-1 · 05/29/2008, 09:48 AM

I use a canister just to polish the water.
I use the Fluval fx5. I will probably just set it to come on for a few hours a night soon but for now I just plug it in when I want too.
It does a great job of cleaning up the water. I/m running carbon, a phosphate media, and a polishing filter along with the normal sponge filters and particle filters. I would suggest cleaning it up every 10 days or so if you use it on a regular basis.

Joe LoPresti · 05/29/2008, 11:20 AM

I run an Eheim 2013 in both of my reefs. All I use in there is filter floss (changed once a month), Chemipur Elite and Rowaphos. I took everything else out of my Eheims.

Aquarist007 · 05/29/2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by Playa-1
I use a canister just to polish the water.
I use the Fluval fx5. I will probably just set it to come on for a few hours a night soon but for now I just plug it in when I want too.
It does a great job of cleaning up the water. I/m running carbon, a phosphate media, and a polishing filter along with the normal sponge filters and particle filters. I would suggest cleaning it up every 10 days or so if you use it on a regular basis.

alot of reefers gut the cannisters completely and only run carbon in them.
A mixture of phosban and carbon would not be effective in a cannister filter. The phosban need to heave a little to be in contact with the water column.

05/29/2008, 08:26 AM	#13
HABS#1 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London Ontario Canada Posts: 552	We run a marineland C360 with ROWAPhos and carbon and ceramic bio disks and bioballs in it we also run a few Koralia powerheads in our tank. __________________ If you can dream it you can do it Just remember one thing it was all started by a mouse 25 before 12 HABS over the Leafs every time... Current Tank Info: 75 gal mixed. 2 Ocellaris clowns 2 Bluegreen chromis 1 PJ cardinal 1 blue tang 1 red reefstarfish 1 cleaner shrimp 1 Peppermint shrimp 1 BTA 1 Xenia 1 Lavender mushroom green open brain various CUC (coming soon 1 copperband butterfly)

05/29/2008, 11:20 AM	#15
Joe LoPresti Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: san diego Posts: 240	I run an Eheim 2013 in both of my reefs. All I use in there is filter floss (changed once a month), Chemipur Elite and Rowaphos. I took everything else out of my Eheims. __________________ Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey- "Better not take a dog on the Space Shuttle, because if he sticks his head out when you're coming home his face might burn up." Current Tank Info: 82 gallon custom-built reef tank, 29 gallon softie cube, 29 gallon anemone cube and a 40 gallon Tanganyikan cichlid tank!!!

05/27/2008, 12:23 PM	#1
heller792 Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: wigan Posts: 652	Cannister filter in reef what media? Hi i am currently running a canister filter ( Eheim 2028 Pro II ) in my reef tank with loads of live rock and an instant ocean skimm 800. The canister has 3 chambers and a sponge but i belive there is disadvantages with running cannister filters in the reef and would like the opinion of everyone as to what media to use or non and just use it for circulation and if thats the case how will i collect small dirt particles. The tank is only 170 litres so i am over skimming it. Many thanks Dave.

05/27/2008, 12:49 PM	#2
sassafrass Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: capitola ca Posts: 1,729	you can run carbon or phosphate remover if you are having a nutrient problem ,I personally use no mechanical filtration just a good skimmer with ozone. the ozone made the water much clearer . Regards, Lee

05/27/2008, 02:12 PM	#3
tankjunky Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vacaville CA Posts: 1,146	Im running a fluval 405 and a rena filstar xp, I run sponges and carbon and phosban. I also have an aqua c remora skimmer. my water is very clear. But you mite want to get a power head for your tank because the current thos two wasnt enof for my 80gallon tank.

05/27/2008, 03:04 PM	#4
heller792 Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: wigan Posts: 652	Junky , how often do you clean your sponges?

05/27/2008, 03:36 PM	#5
tankjunky Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vacaville CA Posts: 1,146	Im starting to clean them with every water change, wich I do once a month, but befor I did it like whenenver I felt like it wich was like one every 3 or 4 months

05/27/2008, 03:37 PM	#6
tankjunky Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vacaville CA Posts: 1,146	actualy I alternate on the cleaning of them. so every two months

05/27/2008, 03:40 PM	#7
rhkingsfan Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Glendale Posts: 696	I'm running two eheim canisters in my tank. The media I use is for the first one: floss, biomedia, chemipure elite and purigen. The second one I run regular chemipure, purigen and phosban. On the canister with filter floss, I try to clean out the floss every month or so. I have a Remora Pro skimmer. Don't listen to me though, my nitrates are at 20 ppm and I can't seem to get them down even with 15% water changes every week. I think I'm overfeeding (one frozen cube a day), but those darn anthias keep begging for food everytime I walk by.

05/27/2008, 03:45 PM	#8
tankjunky Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vacaville CA Posts: 1,146	I would let your fish get used to not eating every day. I feed mine once in the morning and they always come to the top when I put my hand near the top but none of them died yet so id just get them used to beibg fed once a day.

05/28/2008, 10:41 AM	#9
CassAttack Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Norwich Posts: 123	i have a fluval and a skimmer- i keep live rock rubble in the fluval along with carbon bags that i change out about once a month. in terms of getting nitrates down- ya know what worked really well for me? a crocea clam- noticeable difference! if you have the right lighting that is

05/28/2008, 06:17 PM	#10
rhkingsfan Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Glendale Posts: 696	Is there any evidence that crocea clams reduce nitrates? I have two and my nitrates are still high (higher than before I got them - not that they are the problem).

05/29/2008, 09:48 AM	#14
Playa-1 Moved On Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Laguna Niguel, CA Posts: 7,497	I use a canister just to polish the water. I use the Fluval fx5. I will probably just set it to come on for a few hours a night soon but for now I just plug it in when I want too. It does a great job of cleaning up the water. I/m running carbon, a phosphate media, and a polishing filter along with the normal sponge filters and particle filters. I would suggest cleaning it up every 10 days or so if you use it on a regular basis.