Starting 90g Reef Tank Build... Finally!!!

[Tswifty]

Here's the 30g QT setup. I tried to make a small cave on the right so the PBT has somewhere to hide.

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by Tswifty8
Here's the 30g QT setup. I tried to make a small cave on the right so the PBT has somewhere to hide.

great well done

[Aquarist007]

are you worried about mighty mellow yellow getting the black ich too

[Aquarist007]

this is sooo cool--Melev is posting pictures of his refugiums on my thread

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1349443

[D to the P]

I always though it was funny that his refugiums look better than some tanks.

Swifty, it sounds like you have a good plan for setting up the new tank. Are you worried that the live rock you put in there might act as a surface for the black ich to repopulate in? I've read that their life cycle is similar to (regular, white?) ich (even though there aren't even close on the phylogenetic tree) in that they fall to the substrate and repopulate there. I would think PVC pipe would be safer because of the lack of pores.

I'm not saying it will happen, I was just wondering if there should be concern for that. I forget where I read it before, but I know there was some test done that showed that using PVC pipe instead of live rock or anything else that is porous actually helped reduce the amount of ich in the aquarium by not giving it the surface it needed to complete it's life cycle.

What do you guys think?

[Tswifty]

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
are you worried about mighty mellow yellow getting the black ich too

No, because he is in the 90g tank, and the PBT has never been introduced to that water source yet. The PBT has been in quarrantine since he arrived.

[Tswifty]

Originally posted by D to the P
I always though it was funny that his refugiums look better than some tanks.

Swifty, it sounds like you have a good plan for setting up the new tank. Are you worried that the live rock you put in there might act as a surface for the black ich to repopulate in? I've read that their life cycle is similar to (regular, white?) ich (even though there aren't even close on the phylogenetic tree) in that they fall to the substrate and repopulate there. I would think PVC pipe would be safer because of the lack of pores.

I'm not saying it will happen, I was just wondering if there should be concern for that. I forget where I read it before, but I know there was some test done that showed that using PVC pipe instead of live rock or anything else that is porous actually helped reduce the amount of ich in the aquarium by not giving it the surface it needed to complete it's life cycle.

What do you guys think?

I'm not extremely worried about it right now, due to the life cycle of black ich. It needs to host on the fish, before it is able to drop off and reproduce. The frequency of the dips attempts to kill off the adults before they can drop off to reproduce. However, if I notice that the PBT seems to keep getting infected after the dips, then I will more than likely remove the rocks.

[rayoto]

Which leads me to inquire about regular blasting the LR with a turkey baster..I would think this would help, or is the ich actually embedded at that point.

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by rayoto
Which leads me to inquire about regular blasting the LR with a turkey baster..I would think this would help, or is the ich actually embedded at that point.

If there life cycle is similar to ich then one would think if the tank remains fishless for six weeks the ich will be irradicated.
So TJ is handling this situation well by treating the fish and then quaranting it for another 4-6 weeks, meanwhile leaving the other tank fishless.

and I hope others take note-----the value of qt'ing all fish first before they end up in the display tank

great job T.J.

[rayoto]

I see, sorry I mis-read the previous posts. For some reason (probably lack of coffee this morning) I was thinking it was already in the DT. Nonetheless, I agree Capn, TJ does it right. And I for one follow his lead as well as others in thier methods.

[Tswifty]

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
If there life cycle is similar to ich then one would think if the tank remains fishless for six weeks the ich will be irradicated.
So TJ is handling this situation well by treating the fish and then quaranting it for another 4-6 weeks, meanwhile leaving the other tank fishless.

and I hope others take note-----the value of qt'ing all fish first before they end up in the display tank

great job T.J.

Thanks... I was getting impatient, and almost moved him over after 2 weeks. I'm so glad I held off now, and decided to wait the whole 4 week observation period. This would have been an absolute mess if this had happened in the DT. Also, like I said somewhere else, the PBT had a black spot on him when he came in, but I didn't think anything of it and figured it was probably just stress from the trip. The black ich didn't begin to spread, and become noticeable until almost 3 weeks in.

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by rayoto
I see, sorry I mis-read the previous posts. For some reason (probably lack of coffee this morning) I was thinking it was already in the DT. Nonetheless, I agree Capn, TJ does it right. And I for one follow his lead as well as others in thier methods.

that is the one drawback of being an American reefer---we have a Tim Hortons on every street corner--if you can't drive, you can ride a bike, if you don't have bike then you can walk----heck you can crawl--for the first morning coffee
aaah yes "nectar of the gods" "oral fixation as lips meet the cardboard cup"

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by Tswifty8
Thanks... I was getting impatient, and almost moved him over after 2 weeks. I'm so glad I held off now, and decided to wait the whole 4 week observation period. This would have been an absolute mess if this had happened in the DT. Also, like I said somewhere else, the PBT had a black spot on him when he came in, but I didn't think anything of it and figured it was probably just stress from the trip. The black ich didn't begin to spread, and become noticeable until almost 3 weeks in.

the message is getting out there too---when I first started here when anyone suggested a qt tank you would get more posts from experinced reefers stating they never use them without any problems.
As of last night I think I was on 10 threads where is was all positive about using one.

as you are aware vadar has set up a thread dedicated to quarantine tanks--which he beat me to it by a day or so

[Tswifty]

Yeah I saw his thread... It will be nice to have a link to supply for reference now.

I never QT'd fish before this tank, but as soon as I knew I wanted Tangs, I figured I better start. I saw way to many threads entitled "white spots on fish." After browsing them, and reading about the chaos that a diseased fish in the display tank can cause, I just decided that I never wanted to be "that guy."

Also, I figured if I'm going to start spending a decent amount of money on specific fish, I better make sure that the $22 sixline wrasse from the LFS is good and healthy before dropping him in with the $185 Mystery Wrasse.

[Tswifty]

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
this is sooo cool--Melev is posting pictures of his refugiums on my thread

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1349443

It's always awesome when an accomplished reefer such as melev drops by a thread... even more so when his comments are directed at you.

I think that the majority of reefers (myself included) have his website bookmarked, and have read just about every word on it twice.

Scott, with melev's celebrity endorsement, I think you now have met every criteria to win a ThOTM honor now.

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by Tswifty8
It's always awesome when an accomplished reefer such as melev drops by a thread... even more so when his comments are directed at you.

I think that the majority of reefers (myself included) have his website bookmarked, and have read just about every word on it twice.

Scott, with melev's celebrity endorsement, I think you now have met every criteria to win a ThOTM honor now.

[D to the P]

How are the new corals doing?
And the prospect of the G/F curse, has everything she picked out either died or gotten sick?

[Tswifty]

The new corals are all doing great, and I'm getting growth tips on all the new SPS frags. The green slimer is really an amazing looking coral. I wish I could get good macro shots of it for you guys.

Also, Laura noticed that my first frags that I purchased off RC member itZme are beginning to produce offshoots now.

The 3 headed pink hammer frag, has 3 new heads beginning to grow.

The first green acro I added has completely grown over the superglue/rock base I made for it.

The green sinularia grew from about 4 arms to over 12 now and has at least tripled in size.

The ORA Green Birdsnest is growing like crazy.

As for the g/f curse... here's the rundown:

- 3 turbo snails
- Flower pot gonipora
- Purple millepora
- Coraline covered rock (completely bleached now)

I think the rock one is hilarious, because coraline algae in that tank grows all over the rocks... except the one she purchased

[Tswifty]

I should state that she has had opinions or pointed things out to me that I have purchased. However, the above items listed are ones she purchased on her own without me being present as "suprises."

[D to the P]

haha, that rock one is befuddling. At least she means well though, my girlfriend could care less if everything in my tank died.

[kayne_21]

The coraline covered rock could just be a issue of light shock. Do you know how much light it came from before being brought to your tank?

As far as the curse itself goes, my g/f knows that as much as I would appreciate a "suprise", I would not be happy about her getting some random cool looking animal and putting it in my tank It could end up like the g/f that bought her man an arrow crab

[D to the P]

Well guys I'm not gonna be around for about 2 weeks. I'm going on a much deserved vacation. I hope you guys can make due without me...

Good luck with the tang Swifty.

[BlueCorn]

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[Tswifty]

FTS as requested

[Tswifty]

Originally posted by beerguy
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Thanks beerguy