Starting 90g Reef Tank Build... Finally!!!

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by Tswifty8
Haha... yeah I didn't want to go to extreme and put the clip all the way on the other side... My luck, the PBT probably would have gotten stressed and broken out again from it

As far as the new additions go... I'm not as concerned about the PBT anymore, as he seems to have built up an immunity and is kicking it on his own. Also the new additions would be in QT for 4 weeks before making it to the display tank.

The ideas that have been rolling through my mind right now are:

Anthias
Bangaii Cardinals
Blue Spot Jawfish
Green Mandarin Dragonet
Mystery Wrasse
Sixline Wrasse
Some type of Leopard Wrasse
Potter's Angel
Magnificent Foxface
Regal Angel
2 or 3 more tangs ( j/k j/k guys)

I can't seem to set myself on something I "REALLY" want right now, so until I can... I'm holding off. Any suggestions would be appreciated also.

In all reality my next addition will be an anemone or clam, and relatively soon hopefully.

I realize you are far far from a beginner here but is it a good idea to add an anemone under 6 months ?
similarily with the mandarine---do you feel your fuge is established enough yet
(Even though your tank parameters are stable and of pristine quality--and more imp you are on top of everthing so well)

The fox face would be great--it gets along well with my three tangs
The potters angel---I am really close to adding one now that the mimic tang wasn't a good choice.

How does everyone else feel==are they a risk with lps corals--the books say it is minimal

[Tswifty]

Holy geeze... at this rate we'll hit another split by the end of the week

Oh I don't even want to think about how to summarize all of this...

[NanoGurl]

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
how about shrimp ceasar instead or crab salad.
That way you wouldn't have to wash your hands after they were in your tank

lol

I don't eat seafood!

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by Tswifty8
Holy geeze... at this rate we'll hit another split by the end of the week

Oh I don't even want to think about how to summarize all of this...

when your hot your hot

How can you tell if your attinics are going. I put them in last December. I was cleaning some salt creep off the fixture and they did not look very blue--really faded out
Seven months is a little early to be changing attinics isn't it?

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by NanoGurl
lol

I don't eat seafood!

I won't eat crabs, lobster, crayfish, frog legs ect.
Anything I dissected all those years teaching science---I just can't bear to eat
I can still smell the formaldehyde when they are mentioned

Good thing rats are commonly eaten or I would barf

[Tswifty]

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
I realize you are far far from a beginner here but is it a good idea to add an anemone under 6 months ?
similarily with the mandarine---do you feel your fuge is established enough yet
(Even though your tank parameters are stable and of pristine quality--and more imp you are on top of everthing so well)

The fox face would be great--it gets along well with my three tangs
The potters angel---I am really close to adding one now that the mimic tang wasn't a good choice.

How does everyone else feel==are they a risk with lps corals--the books say it is minimal

I want to get the anemone in the tank as soon as I can based on the amount of corals I have in the tank now. That way if it decides to move, it has a chance of not harming anything. I've also heard this from some other reefers.

Does anyone know the reason behind the 6 months waiting period?

As far as the mandarin goes, I'm pretty confident I would be ok if I decided to add one. I've seen a bunch at the LFS, but haven't been able to find any in the size range or body structure that I am looking for. It will more than likely be a LFS purchase, so I can observe it, and check to see if it will accept frozen food.

As far as the pods go, I'm not really concerned about that aspect. There are literally millions of them in the tank... to the point where I think I need to get something to put a dent in the poplulation. I turned on the lights the other day after it was dark, and one of my large flat rocks looked like it had a living carpet on it as they were all scurrying for cover.

I REALLY REALLY like the magnificent foxface, and there was a 3" one in the Diver's Den the other day. I'm just a little concerned with how large they can get, and how much he would impede on the Tangs as far as swimming room and grazing goes. I would really like to add one though, they have awesome personalities.

[D to the P]

I think the 6 month thing is just a "check point" as to when your tank is mature enough for sensitive inverts. Its kinda when you know your tank shouldn't have any other weird fluctuations that would otherwise kill an anemone, or at least P it off.

[Tswifty]

Update on the Zoanthid frags:

Out of the 4 frags...

I lost one colony of about 20-30 orange polyps

The small 10-15 polyp orange center with green ring zoos have rebounded, as well as the neon green zoos.

The last frag of neon green zoos was pretty devastated, but is beginning to rebound slowly. It originally had 20-30 polyps on it, and there are about 5 opened right now. Also it has some red slime algae growing on it.

I'll probably move the healthy looking green zoos and small orange ones back to the display tank tonight or tomorrow.

Hey NanoGurl... Would you like me to post that picture of the spiders again for you? I know how much you liked it

[Al Bendiksen]

Originally posted by capn_hylinur

BTW
Born June 22 1989

Oh look another 18yrs old!! Hahahahh

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by Al Bendiksen
Oh look another 18yrs old!! Hahahahh

right on friend--do you want to go cruising for chicks

[NanoGurl]

Originally posted by Tswifty8
Hey NanoGurl... Would you like me to post that picture of the spiders again for you? I know how much you liked it

Oh god!

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by D to the P
I think the 6 month thing is just a "check point" as to when your tank is mature enough for sensitive inverts. Its kinda when you know your tank shouldn't have any other weird fluctuations that would otherwise kill an anemone, or at least P it off.

you are correct

TJ the foxface I believe is a 9 inch fish as an adult, the yellow 7 inches and the powder blue 9 inches also so you should be alright for now
but what the heck there is always upgrading in the future

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by NanoGurl
Oh god!

great article lots of pics for you

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-01/rs/index.php

[D to the P]

Happy birthday Capn'!

I just turned 21 in may, I never felt "old" until I started to realize that there are rookies playing hockey in the NHL that are younger than me. Makes me feel like I missed something! (after all I did play ice hockey since I was nine)

Tswifty, what kind of anemone were you thinking of getting?
And as far as recommendations for fish. I think you'll be happy with a jawfish, whether it's one blue spotted or a small group of yellow headed. They're so interesting bobbing in and out of their holes.

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by Tswifty8
Update on the Zoanthid frags:

Out of the 4 frags...

I lost one colony of about 20-30 orange polyps

The small 10-15 polyp orange center with green ring zoos have rebounded, as well as the neon green zoos.

The last frag of neon green zoos was pretty devastated, but is beginning to rebound slowly. It originally had 20-30 polyps on it, and there are about 5 opened right now. Also it has some red slime algae growing on it.

I'll probably move the healthy looking green zoos and small orange ones back to the display tank tonight or tomorrow.

Hey NanoGurl... Would you like me to post that picture of the spiders again for you? I know how much you liked it

that sounds like they are coming along good--did you get those at the swap meet?
re red slime algae on the zoos. I have it on a struggling millipora
Maybe Marc can answer here
how do you get rid of the slime/ algae on corals?

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by D to the P
Happy birthday Capn'!

I just turned 21 in may, I never felt "old" until I started to realize that there are rookies playing hockey in the NHL that are younger than me. Makes me feel like I missed something! (after all I did play ice hockey since I was nine)

Tswifty, what kind of anemone were you thinking of getting?
And as far as recommendations for fish. I think you'll be happy with a jawfish, whether it's one blue spotted or a small group of yellow headed. They're so interesting bobbing in and out of their holes.

Thanks DtotheP
same offer if Al doesn't get back to me
want go cruising for chicks

Probablyyou don't know these guys but I played street hockey with
Tim Horton and the Howell brothers
(1960's Maple Leafs)

my recommendation for an anemone would be the rose tip.
A model citizen on my reef--it even holds hands with an elegance coral beside it with no problems

[D to the P]

Yeah I know the Howell brothers. I bet it was pretty ridiculous to see those guys in the NHL. I'm sure you said to yourself "He used to try that move on me, but I never fell for it!" or something to that effect haha.

[melev]

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
that sounds like they are coming along good--did you get those at the swap meet?
re red slime algae on the zoos. I have it on a struggling millipora
Maybe Marc can answer here
how do you get rid of the slime/ algae on corals?

What slime/algae specifically? Cyano bacteria?

[Tswifty]

Originally posted by D to the P
Tswifty, what kind of anemone were you thinking of getting?
And as far as recommendations for fish. I think you'll be happy with a jawfish, whether it's one blue spotted or a small group of yellow headed. They're so interesting bobbing in and out of their holes.

I'm looking at probably an RBTA or GBTA

Also there was a large white anenome with purple or blue tips at Salty Critter a few weeks ago that was pretty cool looking.

They have 2 blue spot jawfish in at the LFS right now, I keep contemplating it.

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by melev
What slime/algae specifically? Cyano bacteria?

I believe it is cyano--odd too because there is none in the display tank
The coral is placed about 10 inches from the halides,very high on the reef and it is getting the full flow of at least 2k4's directed that way

[Tswifty]

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
that sounds like they are coming along good--did you get those at the swap meet?
re red slime algae on the zoos. I have it on a struggling millipora
Maybe Marc can answer here
how do you get rid of the slime/ algae on corals?

Yeah no more spiders popped up in QT.

I picked them up at a place that will remain nameless

The red/purple agae on the one colony of zoas is long and stringy... almost like a ribbon extending off it into the current.

[Aquarist007]

Disclaimer
(In case my wife reads this)
I was born in 1949 and the last time I went cruising for chicks was 1969. the last chick I picked up was my wife LOL

[Al Bendiksen]

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
right on friend--do you want to go cruising for chicks

Oh yeah! We gotta get them while we are young We'll say we are brothers, it tends to be easier lol.

[melev]

I just posted this in another thread so I'm going to copy-n-paste the contents here:

Chemi-clean: Nothing to worry about, totally safe, used it many many times. I just treated my reef about 10 days ago, leaving it in the system for 5 days while the cyano died off. The entire time my skimmer was off, and I didn't run carbon either.

As always, it works as advertised. Another brand that works is Blue Life's Red Slime Control. It too will get rid of that red stuff, and takes just about the same amount of time. Then I change a bunch of water, fire up the skimmer, run carbon actively in a Phosban Reactor, and empty the collection cup about hourly as the skimmer pulls out all kinds of watery goop. I just replace that water with newly mixed saltwater.

If you want to add an airstone, you can. However, with a sump incorporated, air and water is mixed in the drainpipe and poured into the sump fully oxygenated. The return pump pushes this water back up.

If you have a refugium going and you see cyano in there, turn that light off as well.

Three Days of Darkness method...
It is very weird to walk past a fully dark tank when you know it should be lit. By day 3 you'll really be itching to flip on some switches. Clean your skimmer every day, and by day three you should see even more skimmate as free-floating algae will die and be exported. All cyano should be dead. If you have an SPS reef, please watch the livestock closely as they may not do well with no light for that many days. I've done it with great results (lost a couple of frags), but now will only do it for two days in a row.

[D to the P]

"That's what I like about high school girls, I keep getting older but they stay the same age."


(of course I mean legal age, I'm not trying to be sick!)