The Ultimate Aiptasia Solution - Page 2

spectrascott · 06/23/2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by hyperfocal
Dang, I must've missed it -- I'm sure it was suitably catastrophic

Not to bad but they look like a burnt marshmellow

hyperfocal · 06/23/2008, 11:36 PM

Heh, that must have been quite a smell too

tkeracer619 · 06/24/2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by bubbly
This is pretty dangerous, IMO, and should definitely be done wearing safety goggles.

Water vaporizes when heated, and if it heats up while trapped in pores in the rock without enough room to escape, it will explode (think coke+mentos in a sealed bottle).

This explosion can send sharp flying LR shrapnel everywhere, including your face and eyes.

Your face will heal but your eyes won't so be sure to wear safety goggles. I me a person who lost an eye by using a wood saw without safety googles, and my local reef club has a guy who lost a couple fingers while doing a DIY project without adequate safeguards.

So safety clown says be CAREFUL when using torches around wet porous rock that fractures easily.

I agree. Use safety glasses. It most certainly can explode. Just because the OP didn't have it happen doesn't mean you won't. Concrete does the same thing.

Loachmaniac · 06/24/2008, 06:44 AM

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Originally posted by widmer
I can't imagine any exploding live rock. Even if there were somehow hypothetically a perfectly sealed off pocket of water and/or air in there, I don't believe it could expand to the point where it creates enough pressure to actually break the rock in peices. Either way, I think I'd use a pen torch for easiness.

it can. Water vapor will want to take up on the order of 1000x more volume than liquid. If it's confined to the same space, that's 1000x the pressure. That is before you even consider that you heated it, increasing the pressure even more.

Rock is brittle, it'll crack and vapor/gas escapes from confined spaces very rapidly and/or "explosively"

bph0013 · 06/24/2008, 12:40 PM

OMG this was the funniest thing I saw all day, I'm rolling. I wonder I could get ahold of some napalm . . .

Steve175 · 06/24/2008, 12:50 PM

Almost (but certainly not quite) as satisfying but equally, IME, as effective is injecting the little buggars with concentrated kalk using a syringe and large bore needle. This can be done while the rock is still underwater - just need to monitor for a change in pH and do it over several days if a pH flux is detected. While I too would enjoy seeing the b******s burn, they can be hard to find when the rock is out of the water and seeing them melt into oblivion like the wicked witch of the west is similarly cathartic.
2 cents.

hyperfocal · 06/24/2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Steve175
Almost (but certainly not quite) as satisfying but equally, IME, as effective is injecting the little buggars with concentrated kalk using a syringe and large bore needle.

You mention this impulse to your patients, right? Informed consent, and all that

snorvich · 06/24/2008, 06:41 PM

The only thing better than watching them burn would be hearing a nice sizzle. THAT would make my day.

Konadog · 06/25/2008, 04:15 PM

This may be one of the best ways to remove the little pests I have seen for some time. I've tried peppermints before, but all they do is make my water cloudy!

I must be doing something wrong

Laddy · 06/25/2008, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by Konadog
This may be one of the best ways to remove the little pests I have seen for some time. I've tried peppermints before, but all they do is make my water cloudy!

I must be doing something wrong

LOL.....ten years ago while on spring break at lake havasu someone gave me something that looked similar....i woke up two days later bareass in the desert singing Doors tunes

marino420td · 06/25/2008, 09:29 PM

Since the great George Carlin passed this week, it is nice to see there is no shortage of great comedy on RC. This thread has me rolling.

Jessy. · 07/22/2008, 01:05 AM

just thought you'd like to know i reference this post on about every "i have aiptasia" thread i see on our local forums...

LOVE IT

IridescentLily · 07/22/2008, 04:04 AM

Between this, and the video of the "hammer method" i found here yesterday...just...rotf..

wargeneral · 07/22/2008, 09:04 AM

Doesn't sound to Ultimate if the aiptasia is attached to a star polyp coral.

chewie · 07/22/2008, 09:21 AM

Star polyps are next on my list of pests, so GSP Flambe' anyone?

Andy, where would you find such a torch? There must be some place locally that sells them eh?

You think I could find one locally in SE Portland?

wargeneral · 07/22/2008, 09:43 AM

Whats wrong with Star Polyps?

Timbor · 07/22/2008, 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by wargeneral
Whats wrong with Star Polyps?

Some people consider them pests due to their fast growth rate and their tendency to overgrow and kill corals that are more expensive.

I like the GSP, I just don't let em grow on my rocks. I have some on the overflow and the rest is on the sand.

HTH,

Tim

hyperfocal · 07/22/2008, 10:06 AM

Heya Chewie

I got mine at Home Depot, they're in the tool section with the propane burners, soldering irons, etc. The little bottles of butane don't last very long, so it might be worth picking up a spare or two.

Happy incineration!

SunnyX · 07/22/2008, 10:29 AM

I have known people who have torched Aptasia only to see it come back later one. I have found this little guy to be the perfect solution:

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...212&pcatid=212

When I put one into my tank a couple years back he destroyed over 100+ aptasia in two days. I have been aptasia free ever since.

chewie · 07/22/2008, 10:31 AM

That was a little tongue in cheek Andy.

I can buy a "crack torch" at my LCS (local corner store)

chewie · 07/22/2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by SunnyX
I have known people who have torched Aptasia only to see it come back later one. I have found this little guy to be the perfect solution:

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...212&pcatid=212

When I put one into my tank a couple years back he destroyed over 100+ aptasia in two days. I have been aptasia free ever since.

Copperbands do a GREAT job of eliminating Aips. as do the Raccoon Butterflies. The tough part is to get a CBB to eat. Over the years I have tried 4 CBB's, and only 1 of them made it past a week.

I'm still kicking myself for trading that one back to the LFS.

hyperfocal · 07/22/2008, 10:40 AM

LOL, man I *am* slow on the uptake

chewie · 07/22/2008, 10:42 AM

Either that, or you've never been to SE Portland.

FishyMel · 07/22/2008, 10:45 AM

Dude you are going to put the rock back in the tank and the aiptasia are going to be still there, even worse there will be more.

Aiptasia remind me of a cartoon, you can't get rid of them.

While you are at it how about you light your cyano on fire too.

chewie · 07/22/2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by FishyMel

While you are at it how about you light your cyano on fire too.

That's SOOOOO Yesterday.

Have you tried this method before?

Andy has tried just about everything to get rid of them, and has documented what doesn't work. I think if he roasted it good, it has a slim chance of coming back.

06/23/2008, 11:36 PM	#27
hyperfocal Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Edge of oblivion Posts: 1,708	Heh, that must have been quite a smell too __________________ "Froth at the top, dregs at bottom, but the middle excellent." -- Voltaire Current Tank Info: getting back into the hobby

06/24/2008, 12:40 PM	#30
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06/24/2008, 12:50 PM	#31
Steve175 Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 1,186	Almost (but certainly not quite) as satisfying but equally, IME, as effective is injecting the little buggars with concentrated kalk using a syringe and large bore needle. This can be done while the rock is still underwater - just need to monitor for a change in pH and do it over several days if a pH flux is detected. While I too would enjoy seeing the b******s burn, they can be hard to find when the rock is out of the water and seeing them melt into oblivion like the wicked witch of the west is similarly cathartic. 2 cents. __________________ Steve ---------------------------------- Current Tank Info: 2 separate 250G bowfront rimless ELOS tanks plumbed to 260G sump, 220G refugium, 220G frag, BK DeLuxe 300, 400W MH x4, closed loops, 3/4hp chiller x2, Phos reactor, Kalk reactor, Charcoal reactor, Ca reactor, 60G surge tanks, & a huge elec bill

06/24/2008, 06:41 PM	#33
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	The only thing better than watching them burn would be hearing a nice sizzle. THAT would make my day. __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

06/25/2008, 04:15 PM	#34
Konadog Master of the 16 hour day Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: East Long Beach, So Cal Posts: 13,151 Blog Entries: 4	This may be one of the best ways to remove the little pests I have seen for some time. I've tried peppermints before, but all they do is make my water cloudy! I must be doing something wrong __________________ Save the Reefs................................................................Save the world! -Ken Current Tank Info: Currently tankless, and loving it!

06/25/2008, 09:29 PM	#36
marino420td Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cape Girardeau, MO Posts: 2,529	Since the great George Carlin passed this week, it is nice to see there is no shortage of great comedy on RC. This thread has me rolling.

07/22/2008, 01:05 AM	#37
Jessy. Moved On Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 614	just thought you'd like to know i reference this post on about every "i have aiptasia" thread i see on our local forums... LOVE IT

07/22/2008, 04:04 AM	#38
IridescentLily Editor-Reefkeeping mag Join Date: May 2008 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 3,858 Blog Entries: 5	Between this, and the video of the "hammer method" i found here yesterday...just...rotf.. __________________ ~April Editor-Reefkeeping Magazine

07/22/2008, 09:04 AM	#39
wargeneral Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 129	Doesn't sound to Ultimate if the aiptasia is attached to a star polyp coral.

07/22/2008, 09:21 AM	#40
chewie Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland OR Posts: 1,170	Star polyps are next on my list of pests, so GSP Flambe' anyone? Andy, where would you find such a torch? There must be some place locally that sells them eh? You think I could find one locally in SE Portland?

07/22/2008, 09:43 AM	#41
wargeneral Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 129	Whats wrong with Star Polyps?

07/22/2008, 10:06 AM	#43
hyperfocal Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Edge of oblivion Posts: 1,708	Heya Chewie I got mine at Home Depot, they're in the tool section with the propane burners, soldering irons, etc. The little bottles of butane don't last very long, so it might be worth picking up a spare or two. Happy incineration! __________________ "Froth at the top, dregs at bottom, but the middle excellent." -- Voltaire Current Tank Info: getting back into the hobby

07/22/2008, 10:29 AM	#44
SunnyX Moved On Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,991	I have known people who have torched Aptasia only to see it come back later one. I have found this little guy to be the perfect solution: http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...212&pcatid=212 When I put one into my tank a couple years back he destroyed over 100+ aptasia in two days. I have been aptasia free ever since.

07/22/2008, 10:31 AM	#45
chewie Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland OR Posts: 1,170	That was a little tongue in cheek Andy. I can buy a "crack torch" at my LCS (local corner store)

07/22/2008, 10:40 AM	#47
hyperfocal Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Edge of oblivion Posts: 1,708	LOL, man I am slow on the uptake __________________ "Froth at the top, dregs at bottom, but the middle excellent." -- Voltaire Current Tank Info: getting back into the hobby

07/22/2008, 10:42 AM	#48
chewie Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland OR Posts: 1,170	Either that, or you've never been to SE Portland.

07/22/2008, 10:45 AM	#49
FishyMel Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,401	Dude you are going to put the rock back in the tank and the aiptasia are going to be still there, even worse there will be more. Aiptasia remind me of a cartoon, you can't get rid of them. While you are at it how about you light your cyano on fire too.