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08/29/2008, 06:08 AM
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TUNZE vs VORTECH
I am looking to upgrade my current powerheads (all maxijet mods) to either Tunze 6100's or Vortech pumps. Any input on either would be appreciated...
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08/29/2008, 06:18 AM
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08/29/2008, 06:44 AM
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Thanks- I guess I didn't look far enough.
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08/29/2008, 07:28 AM
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If you are a couple months out, the new Tunze Stream 2s look really sweet. The non controllable are out now, the controllable in October.
http://tunze.com/fileadmin/downloads_en/stream2en.pdf
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08/29/2008, 08:33 AM
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Love my vortechs, best money spent! Fish love it and it doesnt take up a lot of space. I had two tunze 6080s on the 75g before and sold one of them and use the other to mix saltwater
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08/29/2008, 08:51 AM
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I love my tunze!
I value dead silent, and no equipment/wires outside of the tank. Id rather it be inside, covered in corraline and blending into the rock and black background. I also like having flexability to aim them anywhere I want. service is flawless, and heck, this is the only time I can say, tunze is cheaper... PS, I have 6101, and Id love to have the new stream 2s that are coming out. heck, Id probably get 6055 nanos... I bought the 6101 for a 75g with plans that Id be able to really utilize them when I upgraded tanks. well I upgraded, 8feet of water, and Its still at like 30% power to not blow sand.
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08/29/2008, 08:54 AM
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I have a pretty large tank 180G and I cant stand the look of the Tunze in the tank - I really like the look of the Vortech and that you can put it on the back wall or the side of the tank (2 sides visible for me) and have it barely take up any space.
I will likely have 2 6101's for sale in the near future and a controller 7095 to get 2 more vortechs. -Kyle
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08/29/2008, 08:56 AM
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Yup. Noise level between the two are very different. The noise of the Vortechs were a killer for me. I didn't like the look of the motor and wire on the outside of the tank. I didn't like the controller or the feed mode either.
Many people are fine with the noise level of the Vortechs, the controller and prefer the look. Choose what works for you.
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08/29/2008, 09:05 AM
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Kyle the new Tunzes look like the 6055 tunze but with more flow the best water mover built.Vortech is no match water movement Tunze is number #1
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08/29/2008, 09:07 AM
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New Streams
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08/29/2008, 09:21 AM
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08/29/2008, 09:23 AM
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Gen 1 MP40W. From what I have read, there is nothing in Gen 2 that would affect noise level either way.
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08/29/2008, 09:43 AM
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08/29/2008, 09:49 AM
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Yes. They were adjusted properly. They were adjusted to be as quiet as possible, which for me was far too noisy. The buzz of the dry side all by itself was too loud. Dead silent is not possible with these pumps (or any pump) unless they are off. For me, the noise level was not even close to tolerable. I run a very quiet system with a basement sump. There is no audible return pump, skimmer, etc to compete with other noise.
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08/29/2008, 09:52 AM
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I LOVE my vortechs!! I have 2 for my 120 and they work great! Very wide flow and mine aren't noisy at all. Maybe if I turn them up full blast then I'll get a little bit of a hum but that's all. Doesn't bother me. I love the look of them too. Nothing in the tank but the propeller.
I don't have any experience with the Tunze's so can't help you there, sorry.
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08/29/2008, 10:25 AM
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08/29/2008, 10:28 AM
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Magnets are optional, not a requirement on the 6x00 Streams. There are many ways to mount them. The new Stream 2s come with Magnets. Tunze has a very affordable battery backup option as well.
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08/29/2008, 10:36 AM
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I agree there is more water moving from my Tunze's - I wish the vortech would move more water - but the pump is just such an eyesore in the tank.
I may try to hide one of the pumps behind some large corals and keep it in there to run on my aquasurf - but then I have to deal with the powercord. I try to run my tank very "clean" the returns are barely visible and the vortechs are on a non-visible side of the tank - so you dont see the wires or dry side - only the wet end. I have seen some images of the new streams - but they are pretty big themselves. I just find that they cast such a large shadow in the tank - I guess a tradeoff for such great water movement.
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08/29/2008, 10:37 AM
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The magnets for the Tunze are optional now, but not on the stream 2’s. In fact, the price of the stream 2 is actually the same price as a 6101 plus a magnet: $365. You won’t have the choice of whether to buy the magnets in the future. As for the battery backup, with Tunze you’re essentially paying $60 for the ability to use a battery whereas the VorTech has that built in to its wireless wave driver. After you pay $60 for the battery adapter kit, you then have to buy a battery and the charger for that battery to equal what VorTech offers.
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08/29/2008, 10:50 AM
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30 hr Vortech battery backup is $165
Tunze safely connector is $50 You supply your own battery or power source of your choice which is great for flexibility. A $50 30AH battery gives you ~ 30hr of run time. Add in a float charger for $10 and you are @ $110 for a 30 Hr battery backup. This is what I paid and run on my setup. $365 for the Stream 2 is correct and I think will be worth every penny.
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08/29/2008, 11:26 AM
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it really depends on your tank setup. my tank 2 3 sides visible, 1 long side and 2 short sides. the only side left is the back of course, and it would be extremely inefficient to do flow straight out of the back wall
 if I had a fully in wall tank, maybe Id consider it since the motors would be blocked and noise dampened. just think about the tank your going to build, can you have the motors outside without them being an eyesore? people expect things inside the tank, they wont likely ask you, hey whats that black box in the back of the tank, but they will ask, whats this spinning electric motor mounted right here outside of the tank.
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08/29/2008, 12:33 PM
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Might as well have asked "glass or acrylic"?
It's a matter of preference.
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08/29/2008, 12:35 PM
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08/29/2008, 01:14 PM
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 As far as pumps go I've got both.. I like the Tunze better. My Vortech is a Gen 2 bought brand new.. Its loud at 70%.. Most everyone agrees with this.. Infact I've seen several post where they bought two so they didn't have to run them over 50% Due to the noise.. If you have a Inwall I think Vortechs are a Great choice.. If you have 3 sides viewable then not so much. Mounted outside and turned up they are loud.. The motor and cord on the outside looks bad to me. The only reason why I got mine is cause the back of my tank stick into the wall into my Equipment room and I plan on running my Vortech on the back wall in the middle.. So I wont hear it and all I will see is the wet end.. It works great for this.. I have a Tunze on each end pointing to the middle..
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08/29/2008, 01:19 PM
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FWIW here is a 6101 beside a Vortech I took these for my local club to compare the two
 A 190 with Two 6101   
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