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[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by becky2312
Thanks for the video on the pistol shrimp. I hadn't seen that before. Maybe I DON'T want one of those guys. LOL

Is there any certain order I should add the others in? Are the cardinals okay by themselves, or do they need to be in pairs or more?

your welcome ---I have had more success with the cardinals by themselves---esp the pajama cardinal---the one I have right now is a real loner from the others.
If you put two or three of the bangi's together they will start to pick at each other.

[becky2312]

Thanks!

So if I added:

2 ocellaris clownfish
1 coral beauty angelfish
1 pajama cardinal
1 banggai cardinal
1 lawnmower blenny
1 sixline wrasse

Is that too much for a 46 gallon? I have about 50 pounds of lr with several overhangs/caves/etc.

In what order should I add them?

[Don Z]

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
not just in case Don---for sure run every fish purchase in a qt tank if not just for observation or to get feeding properly.

SK8R has an excellent thread on using a qt tank---I look for the link

here it is :

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1420521

Oh no, I understand Capn. I meant just in case I decide to buy him/her.. Definitely going to QT.

[ultimate125]

ok, my tank is cycled..
equip:
125g TruVu FOWLR, 40g sump/fuge w/LR&chaeto, OR 3500, DAS BX 2, 72" T5 Constellation, 3 Koralia 4's, RK 2, JBJ ATO

what order should I slowly add these fish?

Male Bluejaw Trigger~Xanthichthys auromarginatus
Purple+Yellow tang
Regal or Potters Angel
Group of Bartlets Anthias~Pseudanthias bartlettorum
Group of Blue Reef Chromis~Chromis cyanea
Burgess' Butterfly~Chaetodon burgessi
Emperor Angel~Pomacanthus imperator
Blotched Anthias~Holanthias borbonius

thanks!

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by becky2312
Thanks!

So if I added:

2 ocellaris clownfish
1 coral beauty angelfish
1 pajama cardinal
1 banggai cardinal
1 lawnmower blenny
1 sixline wrasse

Is that too much for a 46 gallon? I have about 50 pounds of lr with several overhangs/caves/etc.

In what order should I add them?

do you have a good protein skimmer?

[Aydee]

OK.. Time for me to play as well.

I have a RSM (Red Sea Max). 34G. Pretty much stock (Yes. The skimmer works well in mine).

I have my 35lb or LR in there.

I currently have 3 snails (2 x Turbo and 1 x Trochus). 3 x stripe leg hermit. (Not sure of exact species name).

Hitchhiker:
Sea Urchin (not long spine. Not tuxedo. Just a small black ball about 3/4" across with 3/4" pink spines)

Corals:
Frogspawn
Favia
2 x Fungia
1 x Trachyphyllia
A bunch of mushrooms (on 1 rock in a corner)
Some xenia
Some zoas.

Invert plan:
1 - 2 peppermints. (Annoying Aiptasia. Snuck in. Now constantly battling)

Fish plan: (In order of addition to tank)
Dusky Blenny
Pair Clarkii Clowns
Damsel (Most likely Blue Devil)

The frogspawn is (hopefully) big enough to host the clarkii's (if the fish choose of course). It's approx 7" across at base. (Sweepers can cover half the tank).

Any foreseeable problems? Got lots of hidey-holes for the blenny. I'm hoping that the other fish (Clarkiis and Damsel) will be able to hold their own against each other and 'declare a truce'.

AD

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by Aydee
OK.. Time for me to play as well.

I have a RSM (Red Sea Max). 34G. Pretty much stock (Yes. The skimmer works well in mine).

I have my 35lb or LR in there.

I currently have 3 snails (2 x Turbo and 1 x Trochus). 3 x stripe leg hermit. (Not sure of exact species name).

Hitchhiker:
Sea Urchin (not long spine. Not tuxedo. Just a small black ball about 3/4" across with 3/4" pink spines)

Corals:
Frogspawn
Favia
2 x Fungia
1 x Trachyphyllia
A bunch of mushrooms (on 1 rock in a corner)
Some xenia
Some zoas.

Invert plan:
1 - 2 peppermints. (Annoying Aiptasia. Snuck in. Now constantly battling)

Fish plan: (In order of addition to tank)
Dusky Blenny
Pair Clarkii Clowns
Damsel (Most likely Blue Devil)

The frogspawn is (hopefully) big enough to host the clarkii's (if the fish choose of course). It's approx 7" across at base. (Sweepers can cover half the tank).

Any foreseeable problems? Got lots of hidey-holes for the blenny. I'm hoping that the other fish (Clarkiis and Damsel) will be able to hold their own against each other and 'declare a truce'.

AD

Clarkie clowns become big and agressive---I've even been biten by one when I tried to feed its anemone. they make a real mess of the substrate also.
A damsel should just not be in a mixed tank. A damsel only tank however can be very beautiful and interesting to watch

[becky2312]

I have a Coralife 125 Super Skimmer that I bought used, although the pump/motor locked up on it last night. Planning to just buy a new pump and still use the skimmer though.

[flamron]

Alright - Here goes. Tank is empty as of right now - minus a $10 frag of star polyps (doing great FWIW). I've posted this as a poll, but let me know how my other selections look (also if I am overstocked, medium stocked, or if I can add anymore fish).

Thanks

I'm undecided about which tang will be the "center piece" fish of my 75gal. My wife wants a yellow, but I'm afraid that they are too large for my 75. This tank will not be heavily stocked (except for the tang, LOL). I will probably go with a couple percs (may change, but a couple clowns regardless), a yellow watchman goby or an orange spot goby...A mandarin (once pods are well established, probably be my last addition), sailfin blenny, and possibly one more fish - maybe a royal gramma. Is this heavily stocked for a 75? Doesn't seem to me it is, but that is my opinion. I could do without the gramma, and be fine, no sleep lost, but my wife wants either that or a firefish, so I'd probably end up getting one or the other.

Anyways, here are the candidates, in no particular order. I am simply basing this off of live aquaria, so let me know if their info is incorrect or misleading.

Convict Tang


Whitecheek Tang


Kole Tang


Blue Tang


Bristletooth Tomini


Two spot bristletooth


blue and yellow hippo tang


powder brown

[Sk8r]

I would say the kole (a bit spooky and jumpy) or the tomini. Both I think are bristletooths, and will rely on scraping rocks for algae. You'll want to run with more phosphate (algae fuel) in your tank than is good for, say, sps corals, and you'll always have a bit of algae or film on the glass. But the tang will do fine in such an environment, and so will your sailfin blenny.

A remark here about 'clean' tanks. When figuring out how 'clean' to get your tank, consider what you have to feed, and figure that if you have algae-eaters, you just are not going to have a sterile, white, algaeless tank.

[flamron]

Thanks Sk8r. What fun would a boring ole' clean tank be? I'm lazy, so that will fit my agenda nicely. Any thoughts on the whtiecheek? Hard to keep? My wife is wanting me to get that one, but I am actually leaning toward either the tomini or the two spot.

[lockekeyy]

Ok,
so currently I have a 72G bowfront and right now I have
3 Peppermint Shrimp
some scarlet hermits and blue legged hermits
3 extra large nassarius snails (about 2") and some normal sized
10 astrea snails
nano conchs
2 blue/green chromis (probably gonna add 1 or 2 more)
a pair of A. Ocellaris
some zoas
xenia
purple cap
sponges
feather dusters
neon green hammer (thanks for the earlier suggestion sk8er)


I'm looking to upgrade to a larger (125g or bigger) tank in the next year or so... but this is what I'm planning to add

2 cleaner shrimp
tuxedo pincushion urchin (heard these tend to bulldoze and carry things)
mandarin (long long after my tank has matured)
blue tang (possible to add another tang or 2 with a bigger tank? I read that they are aggressive towards others like their kind, maybe a sailfin or yellow or purple??? I've seen multiple tangs in one large tank with success)
RBTA (after 6 more months)
softies
zoanthids
xenia
mushrooms
maybe a few more LPS or SPS

Also, the g/f wants me to get 3 anthias of some kind, I figured this would be ok to add towards the end of stocking because they're messy eaters and feed often so their leftovers could feed everything else in the tank. Is this ok? I'm also looking for a bottom dweller to help take care of the substrare like a yellow watchman and pistol shrimp combo... I heard that this symbiotic relationship is cool to watch. Any advice?

[lockekeyy]

K, nevermind about the pistol shrimp... just saw the video

Any suggestions on a bottom dweller that will not compete with the mandarin?

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by lockekeyy

blue tang (possible to add another tang or 2 with a bigger tank? I read that they are aggressive towards others like their kind, maybe a sailfin or yellow or purple??? I've seen multiple tangs in one large tank with success)
Any advice?

aggressive--not really:



but order of introduction is very important

[redvicki]

my fish wish list
my tank is a 72 gallon bow front. 110 npounds of live rock, 2 to 3 inch sand bed very fine agro. 20 gallon sump/ fuge with cheato.

wish list includes
3 pajama cardinals
yellow rose goby with candy strip pistol shrimp
2 or 3 scarlet cleaner shrimp
blue sided fairy wrasse
black sailfin blenny
yellow eye kole tang
2 black clowns
copper banded butterfly

suggestions are very welcome. i want a nice varity of colorful fish that are non agressive. i am concerned about my choice of clowns. will they be overly agressive? they are so beautiful. which ones should i start with? thanks for all of your help wouldn't have made it this far without it.

sorry duplicate post. started a new thread by mistake.

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by lockekeyy
Ok,
so currently I have a 72G bowfront and right now I have
3 Peppermint Shrimp
some scarlet hermits and blue legged hermits
3 extra large nassarius snails (about 2") and some normal sized
10 astrea snails
nano conchs
2 blue/green chromis (probably gonna add 1 or 2 more)
a pair of A. Ocellaris
some zoas
xenia
purple cap
sponges
feather dusters
neon green hammer (thanks for the earlier suggestion sk8er)


I'm looking to upgrade to a larger (125g or bigger) tank in the next year or so... but this is what I'm planning to add

2 cleaner shrimp
tuxedo pincushion urchin (heard these tend to bulldoze and carry things)
mandarin (long long after my tank has matured)
blue tang (possible to add another tang or 2 with a bigger tank? I read that they are aggressive towards others like their kind, maybe a sailfin or yellow or purple??? I've seen multiple tangs in one large tank with success)
RBTA (after 6 more months)
softies
zoanthids
xenia
mushrooms
maybe a few more LPS or SPS

2 cleaner shrimp would be great although I gave up on shrimp because they never came out in the day--boring

tuxedo is small enough not to be a problem--however they can strip reef rock of corraline algae very quickly

mandarine--not without a well established fuge--if you wait for six months with the anemone then that would be a good time for a mandarine

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by lockekeyy
K, nevermind about the pistol shrimp... just saw the video

Any suggestions on a bottom dweller that will not compete with the mandarin?

alot of the goby species would be fine

BTW
a mandarine is not a goby

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by redvicki
my fish wish list
my tank is a 72 gallon bow front. 110 npounds of live rock, 2 to 3 inch sand bed very fine agro. 20 gallon sump/ fuge with cheato.

wish list includes
3 pajama cardinals
yellow rose goby with candy strip pistol shrimp
2 or 3 scarlet cleaner shrimp
blue sided fairy wrasse
black sailfin blenny
yellow eye kole tang
2 black clowns
copper banded butterfly

suggestions are very welcome. i want a nice varity of colorful fish that are non agressive. i am concerned about my choice of clowns. will they be overly agressive? they are so beautiful. which ones should i start with? thanks for all of your help wouldn't have made it this far without it.

sorry duplicate post. started a new thread by mistake.

re tank pic above--in the left hand corner you will see a pajama coral--this is what they like to do--be hermits and stay close to the pack but not with it.

the copper banded butterfly is not a good fish to start out with--they are tricky eaters and usually take some time in a qt by themselves so you can experiment on what they feed.

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by flamron
Alright - Here goes. Tank is empty as of right now - minus a $10 frag of star polyps (doing great FWIW). I've posted this as a poll, but let me know how my other selections look (also if I am overstocked, medium stocked, or if I can add anymore fish).

Thanks

I'm undecided about which tang will be the "center piece" fish of my 75gal. My wife wants a yellow, but I'm afraid that they are too large for my 75. This tank will not be heavily stocked (except for the tang, LOL). I will probably go with a couple percs (may change, but a couple clowns regardless), a yellow watchman goby or an orange spot goby...A mandarin (once pods are well established, probably be my last addition), sailfin blenny, and possibly one more fish - maybe a royal gramma. Is this heavily stocked for a 75? Doesn't seem to me it is, but that is my opinion. I could do without the gramma, and be fine, no sleep lost, but my wife wants either that or a firefish, so I'd probably end up getting one or the other.

Anyways, here are the candidates, in no particular order. I am simply basing this off of live aquaria, so let me know if their info is incorrect or misleading.

Convict Tang


Whitecheek Tang


Kole Tang


Blue Tang


Bristletooth Tomini


Two spot bristletooth


blue and yellow hippo tang


powder brown

for you information I have compiled a list of information on all these tangs and more:

http://www.reefcentral.com/wp/?p=341

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by becky2312
I have a Coralife 125 Super Skimmer that I bought used, although the pump/motor locked up on it last night. Planning to just buy a new pump and still use the skimmer though.

with about 55 lbs of live rock or so and the skimmer functioning properly you should be fine with that list Becky

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by Sk8r
I would say the kole (a bit spooky and jumpy) or the tomini. Both I think are bristletooths, and will rely on scraping rocks for algae. You'll want to run with more phosphate (algae fuel) in your tank than is good for, say, sps corals, and you'll always have a bit of algae or film on the glass. But the tang will do fine in such an environment, and so will your sailfin blenny.

A remark here about 'clean' tanks. When figuring out how 'clean' to get your tank, consider what you have to feed, and figure that if you have algae-eaters, you just are not going to have a sterile, white, algaeless tank.

there is a good discussion Sk8r that I welcome your thoughts about the above on:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...5&pagenumber=1

[flamron]

thanks Capn....Looks like the whitecheek is def out. I don't want to deal with a fish that is not considered "hardy". really leaning towards the tomini or possibly the convict.

Out of my list of fish, who should go in first to last? here is my thinking;
couple clowns
firefish
yellow watchman goby
sailfin blenny
tang
mandarin

Thanks,
Ron

[becky2312]

Thanks Capn! I'm thinking I'll add the 2 clowns first and probably the CB and Sixline as the last two additions (not at the same time) . . . does that sound right?

[skibum1681]

I have a valintini (saddleback toby) puffer. I want to add a cleaner shrimp.

Would that be a $15 meal for the little guy? My snail population is about extinct & i think that Toby may be the culprit... though i have never seen him pick on one.

Anybody have any exp with Toby's?

[Aquarist007]

Originally posted by skibum1681
I have a valintini (saddleback toby) puffer. I want to add a cleaner shrimp.

Would that be a $15 meal for the little guy? My snail population is about extinct & i think that Toby may be the culprit... though i have never seen him pick on one.

Anybody have any exp with Toby's?

I know alot of reads say that the puffer will not bother a cleaner shrimp but you take your chances