what makes a rimless rimless?

viodea · 12/11/2008, 11:49 PM

I've been told the integrity of a tank will be degraded if the center brace of a tank is removed. There are rimless thank without any support. What makes those rimless thank holding up without support?

ganjero · 12/12/2008, 12:01 AM

The way they are designed and built, glass thickness and the type of silicone used.

BodiBuilt · 12/12/2008, 12:03 AM

Usually tanks with no brace can only be found in smaller sizes... once they start getting bigger they may use "eurobracing" which is a 3" or so glass brace around the perimiter. Rimless tanks are normally made of thicker and higher quality glass too.

hahnmeister · 12/12/2008, 03:13 AM

no rim... duh.

BeanAnimal · 12/12/2008, 08:12 AM

Feeling condescending instead of helpful today Jon?

viodea, ignore hahn, he can be rather full of himself at times.

As the others above have pointed out, rimless tanks are designed a bit differently. The glass panels are much thicker to keep them from bowing. The thicker glass also creates a much larger bonding surface for the silicone.

The top edges of the glass are eased and polished to make them stronger and less vulnerable to damage, and in some cases the panels are tempered to give them more strength.

It is not advisable to yank the trim off of a standard AGA or similar aquarium, it is there for a reason

hahnmeister · 12/12/2008, 11:23 AM

Since when is just plain being silly being "full of one's self"? Just stating the obvious... nothing personal.

viodea · 12/12/2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by BeanAnimal
Feeling condescending instead of helpful today Jon?

viodea, ignore hahn, he can be rather full of himself at times.

As the others above have pointed out, rimless tanks are designed a bit differently. The glass panels are much thicker to keep them from bowing. The thicker glass also creates a much larger bonding surface for the silicone.

The top edges of the glass are eased and polished to make them stronger and less vulnerable to damage, and in some cases the panels are tempered to give them more strength.

It is not advisable to yank the trim off of a standard AGA or similar aquarium, it is there for a reason

That's exactly what I'm looking for. thanks!!!

viodea · 12/12/2008, 11:44 AM

It's my fault not stating the question precise enough. I should've said "What are design & construction different between a rimless and regular tank that make it holding up without center brace or rim?"

BeanAnimal · 12/12/2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by viodea
It's my fault not stating the question precise enough. I should've said "What are design & construction different between a rimless and regular tank that make it holding up without center brace or rim?"

Your question was just fine. That is not the first time that Jon has taken the opportunity to give somebody a little jab. He knows very well how to word something or use emoticons to indicate humor.

Jim_S · 12/12/2008, 01:38 PM

What I don't understand is why these tanks are called "rimless"?

By definition, ALL tanks have a rim.

These tanks are "braceless"

BeanAnimal · 12/12/2008, 04:28 PM

Yes, braceless is a much better choice of words. I fear it [rimless]is going to stick just like "micro" bubbles.

tufacody · 12/12/2008, 05:31 PM

micro bubbles arent micro?

SolidDetail808 · 12/12/2008, 07:50 PM

Do you think 1/2" glass for a cube like mine be thick enough for a rimless/brace-less?

hahnmeister · 12/12/2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by BeanAnimal
Your question was just fine. That is not the first time that Jon has taken the opportunity to give somebody a little jab. He knows very well how to word something or use emoticons to indicate humor.

There are no emoticons in the quick reply box... thats why I dont use them very often.

BeanAnimal · 12/13/2008, 12:45 PM

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12/11/2008, 11:49 PM	#1
viodea Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 520	what makes a rimless rimless? I've been told the integrity of a tank will be degraded if the center brace of a tank is removed. There are rimless thank without any support. What makes those rimless thank holding up without support?

12/12/2008, 12:03 AM	#3
BodiBuilt Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,326	Usually tanks with no brace can only be found in smaller sizes... once they start getting bigger they may use "eurobracing" which is a 3" or so glass brace around the perimiter. Rimless tanks are normally made of thicker and higher quality glass too. __________________ Tell Them Dave Was Here Current Tank Info: 280g In Progress

12/12/2008, 01:38 PM	#10
Jim_S Timo Boll Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 5,333	What I don't understand is why these tanks are called "rimless"? By definition, ALL tanks have a rim. These tanks are "braceless" __________________ We will survive in this world of competition, shooting guns and our ammunition... Bradley Nowell Current Tank Info: We're recreating the ocean in our livings rooms. With that said, I've had some ups and downs.

12/12/2008, 07:50 PM	#13
SolidDetail808 Unofficial #1 BJ Penn fan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Vandenberg AFB, CA via Waipahu, HI Posts: 1,453	Do you think 1/2" glass for a cube like mine be thick enough for a rimless/brace-less? __________________ Shaka Brah! -- \m/ -- BJ Penn vs Frankie Edgar, 10 April in Abu Dhabi -----------------------JUST SCRAP!---------------------- Current Tank Info: 12g Nano w/ 2 gallon sump- 8" RBTA- 2 Semi Picasso Clowns- Yasha Goby- Mandarin Goby- Zoa/paly dominated

12/12/2008, 12:01 AM	#2
ganjero saiperchémibatteilcorazon Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 4,027	The way they are designed and built, glass thickness and the type of silicone used.

12/12/2008, 03:13 AM	#4
hahnmeister Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Brew City, WI Posts: 10,156	no rim... duh.

12/12/2008, 08:12 AM	#5
BeanAnimal Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 20,772	Feeling condescending instead of helpful today Jon? viodea, ignore hahn, he can be rather full of himself at times. As the others above have pointed out, rimless tanks are designed a bit differently. The glass panels are much thicker to keep them from bowing. The thicker glass also creates a much larger bonding surface for the silicone. The top edges of the glass are eased and polished to make them stronger and less vulnerable to damage, and in some cases the panels are tempered to give them more strength. It is not advisable to yank the trim off of a standard AGA or similar aquarium, it is there for a reason

12/12/2008, 11:23 AM	#6
hahnmeister Moved On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Brew City, WI Posts: 10,156	Since when is just plain being silly being "full of one's self"? Just stating the obvious... nothing personal.

12/12/2008, 11:44 AM	#8
viodea Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 520	It's my fault not stating the question precise enough. I should've said "What are design & construction different between a rimless and regular tank that make it holding up without center brace or rim?"

12/12/2008, 04:28 PM	#11
BeanAnimal Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 20,772	Yes, braceless is a much better choice of words. I fear it [rimless]is going to stick just like "micro" bubbles.

12/12/2008, 05:31 PM	#12
tufacody Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,890	micro bubbles arent micro?

12/13/2008, 12:45 PM	#15
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