The Reef Central Corner Club Thread - Page 10

Misled · 01/08/2009, 07:23 PM

Here's what I did today.

Re-meshed and cleaned up the skimmer.

The gate mod

This sump fits under the tank 21 1/2x13x16.

Ten gal of water in

Michael · 01/09/2009, 12:00 AM

nice to see some water finally in jesse, looks like a weekend of fun is about to begin

smalls383 · 01/09/2009, 12:10 AM

Glad you all like my design on the sump....I designed it all from asking questions and looking at pics here on RC....so I must thank RC also

smalls383 · 01/09/2009, 12:33 AM

Hey....did any of you ever see that post on here where that guys 54 corner tank broke away from the bottom into the cabinet in the middle of the night or something? I heard someting about AGA corner tanks having weak lower glass.

I was cruzin around here on RC when I was in the planning/constructing stages of my tank. So I came up with this....I precisely measured the distance from the glass bottom of the tank to the wood on the stand. I added a 1.5 inch plywood upper top to the stand which was normally open on the cabinet.(3/4in x2 then cut and sand). The strips are precisely measured so that they are small enough to give support to the tank bottom but NOT push the glass up beyond the lower rim of the tank.....The strips ended up being close to 1/2 inch. Can never be to careful....but I guess I was also bored one day....haha

flipsideleo · 01/09/2009, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by smalls383
Hey....did any of you ever see that post on here where that guys 54 corner tank broke away from the bottom into the cabinet in the middle of the night or something? I heard someting about AGA corner tanks having weak lower glass.

I was cruzin around here on RC when I was in the planning/constructing stages of my tank. So I came up with this....I precisely measured the distance from the glass bottom of the tank to the wood on the stand. I added a 1.5 inch plywood upper top to the stand which was normally open on the cabinet.(3/4in x2 then cut and sand). The strips are precisely measured so that they are small enough to give support to the tank bottom but NOT push the glass up beyond the lower rim of the tank.....The strips ended up being close to 1/2 inch. Can never be to careful....but I guess I was also bored one day....haha

Man! That really sounds scary as H3LL! If you got your measurements perfect, I'm sure there's nothing to worry about, though.

I've never heard that about the 54's, to be honest. I know the 92's are extremely solid. I've tested that myself.

Bernie21 · 01/09/2009, 08:48 AM

I believe, 92 are tempered glass in the bottom. Either way, its a good precaustion to take, it cant hurt.

reefswinger · 01/09/2009, 12:14 PM

i have a 92 gal. corner. i am new and am on day 9 i think.

Michael · 01/09/2009, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reefswinger
i have a 92 gal. corner. i am new and am on day 9 i think.

i have not looked through all 200 posts on this thread to see if we have met before, and if so i apologise, however if not reefswinger id like to say welome to our corner club, please consider your self a member and a very warm welcome

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naprestsleep · 01/09/2009, 12:48 PM

Michael, Is your 92g reef ready or did you use an overflow box.

I got a non reef ready 92g that when I move in a few months I want to add an overflow and sump to. I will show off some pics when I get a chance.

Michael · 01/09/2009, 01:39 PM

ive got an overflow box on mine, i change the pipes every 6 months to ensure theres no floods, my pipes are flexible and the return pump is rated at 350 gals per hour, not a great amount but enough for the skimmer and reactor to do their thing, i also have a priming pump to help restart the return if the power goes out

naprestsleep · 01/09/2009, 01:45 PM

Cool, do you get good surface film skimming from the overflow? I am debating trying two overflow boxes to get better skimming of the film off the water.

Michael · 01/09/2009, 01:47 PM

i dont worry about that too much, i have a tunze 6025 at the back corner near the top, its pointed at the surface and the agitation it creates illiminates any surface scum

Bernie21 · 01/09/2009, 02:58 PM

I dont have that surface problem I keep hearing from people, I do have one on my 3 return lines agitating the surface alil and kinf of pushing water to the overflow box, maybe thats it.

Michael cheats to have no film on his surface, his tank is void of any fish, lol, no film to be produced, lol!

Michael · 01/09/2009, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bernie21

Michael cheats to have no film on his surface, his tank is void of any fish, lol, no film to be produced, lol!

well i have got 3 fish, corals are my thing

Bernie21 · 01/09/2009, 03:32 PM

I know Michael, Im just toying, we all have our thing, thats why we we're all here, in this case our common thing seems to be corners, lol.

kelso1980 · 01/09/2009, 08:20 PM

I reaquascaped again. I dropped a tiny rock w 6 daisy polyps on it and tried to retrieve it. this turned into a swirling vortex and I never found my daisys. D: It was still looking too bulky to me. What do you think? Honesty is the best policy

Before:

After:

kelso1980 · 01/09/2009, 08:22 PM

the zoa rock in the front is not going to stay there. I'm going to try to trade it for some blue or green ricordias. I saw a rock full of different colored ricordias and now that's my goal: to someday cover part of the rock to the right with a bouquet of ricordia

kelso1980 · 01/09/2009, 08:22 PM

the zoa rock in the front is not going to stay there. I'm going to try to trade it for some blue or green ricordias. I saw a rock full of different colored ricordias and now that's my goal: to someday cover part of the rock to the right with a bouquet of ricordia

Hookup · 01/09/2009, 09:43 PM

Kelso, i would recommend remove 1/2 the rock from your DT and moving it to your sump. Well, that would be my wifes recommendation. I had 3x the amount of rock in my tank as I do now, she kept telling me to pull more out... In the end she was right.

Now, that's because I wanted a very open concept structure... you have a nice reef-wall structure going on there... and the rescape looks better, IMO.

One other suggestion would be to try to avoid the pyramid shape you have going. The two sides are leading the eye to the top center, so if there is any way you can create an off-set point, or keep it lower in the middle with two islands, it would look different..

Honestly, i suck at this stuff, aquascaping is one of the main benefits of having a wife... she can tell me what i;m doing wrong, and 9 or 10 times she is right. These are just thoughts on how I might consider modifying your setup... not improving, just changing to something else... It looks good as is, but I wanted to give you something as feed back, beside... "nice job!"..

kelso1980 · 01/09/2009, 09:59 PM

thanks hookup. I like your suggestion about taking more rock out...I just cant bring myself to do it! For instance...I'm saving that one whole rock because I cant get the ricordia off it. and I feel like it's too bulky so that's why every time I re aquascape more rocks come out. I have no more room in my sump. eventually more rock will come out...but i'm not ready to take that next step yet.

Plus I found a bristle worm in there today so I think i'm going to torch the whole aquarium. maybe the house too. I'm pretty sure bristle worms came from my nightmares. I know it's silly and everyone has them but i cant STAND them! they give me the willies

Michael · 01/10/2009, 01:28 AM

you could pull some out, and also move some forward a bit, just make the wall a little thicker, not sure how much you have in there, but i estimate theres about 115 pounds in my DT and it looks ok, a bit of re-scaping may be worth a shot, fwiw i think it looks quite nice, but hookups suggestion about moving a bit is a good idea, i have 10 pounds in my sump

gawf4fun · 01/10/2009, 06:07 AM

Hello Boys, just found this thread tonight and enjoyed reading to this point. Great stuff in here, much that you have to have experienced to really appreciate. I too suffer from big sump envy!

I bought a used acrylic pentagon corner tank about three years ago because I loved the shape and look of the tank's depth of field for viewing. The dimensions are 48" from the corner tip to the front edges, 11" for the side panels and 54" across the front panel. The depth of the tank is 24" (a pain in the butt for corner cleaning). I haven't done the math to confirm it, but I was told it was a 180 gallon, so that my story and I'm sticking with it.

I traded my old hot tub to my UPS man at work who does woodworking and used to build stands and canopies for a LFS. He did a super job. The stand has a flat back leaving even less room for equipment, though I've managed to cram a good amount of stuff underneath including 30 gallon sump, external protein skimmer, calcium reactor, auto-top off and phosban reactor. The only thing that didn't fit is my 1/4HP chiller which sits on the right side of the tank alongside the closed loop pump. (which after reading the last line, I realize didn't fit underneath either). I don't have a picture of underneath the stand but will take one and post so you can appreciate the same cramps that I have. LOL

Anyway, here's a few pics of the canopy, stand, and tank early after setting it up and with my initial rockwork after about 5 months.

I re-worked the aquascaping just over a year ago to create better flow and to give more room for adding corals. Here's pics of the new aquascaping from a year ago and then more recently after a year of filling in and coral growth. I'm pretty happy with the mixed reef look, just thinking now that I need to upgrade my flow by adding a Vortech.

I'm really looking forward to seeing and hearing from more corner reef owners here on RC. If anyone has feedback on Vortech' pumps and their use and positioning in pentagon/corner tanks, I'd love to hear it.

Ritten · 01/10/2009, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kelso1980
I reaquascaped again. I dropped a tiny rock w 6 daisy polyps on it and tried to retrieve it. this turned into a swirling vortex and I never found my daisys. D: It was still looking too bulky to me. What do you think? Honesty is the best policy

Before:

After:

I wouldn't change a thing with that aquascaping. When those corals grow in that it going to be one sweet tank. Also love all the room for the sandy front.

Michael · 01/10/2009, 07:59 AM

hey gawf4fun welcome to the corner club, your tank looks fantastic, i love the look of the aquascape, it looks really well established, not into vortecs myself but hopefully one of the other guys who participates on this thread will chip in later when they catch up with the thread

kelso1980 · 01/10/2009, 08:29 AM

WELCOME gawf4fun! (ps we're not all boys) That's a great looking tanks with some wonderful colors in there. I cant wait till my tank grows up.
And thank you all for your input on my rocks!

01/08/2009, 07:23 PM	#226
Misled RC Mod Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 11,440 Blog Entries: 11	Here's what I did today. Re-meshed and cleaned up the skimmer. The gate mod This sump fits under the tank 21 1/2x13x16. Ten gal of water in __________________ Jesse I'm not saying I'm Batman. I'm just saying nobody has ever seen me and Batman in a room together.

01/09/2009, 12:00 AM	#227
Michael NTTH Rookie Help Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gloucester, England,UK Posts: 7,808 Blog Entries: 6	nice to see some water finally in jesse, looks like a weekend of fun is about to begin __________________ Don't be afraid to ask questions, we in the new to the hobby are here to help you [For My Tank Spec,Photo Album,Articles and website, click on my name] MY Very Kindest and Warmest Regards , MIKE Current Tank Info: I have a 92 gal Corner Tank, and way too many pieces of equipment to list really, (proud member of the reef central corner club)

01/09/2009, 08:48 AM	#231
Bernie21 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Miami, Fl... Posts: 2,161	I believe, 92 are tempered glass in the bottom. Either way, its a good precaustion to take, it cant hurt. __________________ Reefing is an addiction rehab doesn't work for... Current Tank Info: Downgraded to a 0 Gal non Mixed Reef - Direct sun watts & 1x moon Actinics. RIO 00 return, no skimmer Skimmer.

01/09/2009, 01:39 PM	#235
Michael NTTH Rookie Help Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gloucester, England,UK Posts: 7,808 Blog Entries: 6	ive got an overflow box on mine, i change the pipes every 6 months to ensure theres no floods, my pipes are flexible and the return pump is rated at 350 gals per hour, not a great amount but enough for the skimmer and reactor to do their thing, i also have a priming pump to help restart the return if the power goes out __________________ Don't be afraid to ask questions, we in the new to the hobby are here to help you [For My Tank Spec,Photo Album,Articles and website, click on my name] MY Very Kindest and Warmest Regards , MIKE Current Tank Info: I have a 92 gal Corner Tank, and way too many pieces of equipment to list really, (proud member of the reef central corner club)

01/09/2009, 01:47 PM	#237
Michael NTTH Rookie Help Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gloucester, England,UK Posts: 7,808 Blog Entries: 6	i dont worry about that too much, i have a tunze 6025 at the back corner near the top, its pointed at the surface and the agitation it creates illiminates any surface scum __________________ Don't be afraid to ask questions, we in the new to the hobby are here to help you [For My Tank Spec,Photo Album,Articles and website, click on my name] MY Very Kindest and Warmest Regards , MIKE Current Tank Info: I have a 92 gal Corner Tank, and way too many pieces of equipment to list really, (proud member of the reef central corner club)

01/09/2009, 12:10 AM	#228
smalls383 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saratoga, CA Posts: 483	Glad you all like my design on the sump....I designed it all from asking questions and looking at pics here on RC....so I must thank RC also

01/09/2009, 12:33 AM	#229
smalls383 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saratoga, CA Posts: 483	Hey....did any of you ever see that post on here where that guys 54 corner tank broke away from the bottom into the cabinet in the middle of the night or something? I heard someting about AGA corner tanks having weak lower glass. I was cruzin around here on RC when I was in the planning/constructing stages of my tank. So I came up with this....I precisely measured the distance from the glass bottom of the tank to the wood on the stand. I added a 1.5 inch plywood upper top to the stand which was normally open on the cabinet.(3/4in x2 then cut and sand). The strips are precisely measured so that they are small enough to give support to the tank bottom but NOT push the glass up beyond the lower rim of the tank.....The strips ended up being close to 1/2 inch. Can never be to careful....but I guess I was also bored one day....haha

01/09/2009, 12:14 PM	#232
reefswinger Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 44	i have a 92 gal. corner. i am new and am on day 9 i think.

01/09/2009, 12:48 PM	#234
naprestsleep blank Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 987	Michael, Is your 92g reef ready or did you use an overflow box. I got a non reef ready 92g that when I move in a few months I want to add an overflow and sump to. I will show off some pics when I get a chance.

01/09/2009, 01:45 PM	#236
naprestsleep blank Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 987	Cool, do you get good surface film skimming from the overflow? I am debating trying two overflow boxes to get better skimming of the film off the water.

01/09/2009, 02:58 PM	#238
Bernie21 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Miami, Fl... Posts: 2,161	I dont have that surface problem I keep hearing from people, I do have one on my 3 return lines agitating the surface alil and kinf of pushing water to the overflow box, maybe thats it. Michael cheats to have no film on his surface, his tank is void of any fish, lol, no film to be produced, lol! __________________ Reefing is an addiction rehab doesn't work for... Current Tank Info: Downgraded to a 0 Gal non Mixed Reef - Direct sun watts & 1x moon Actinics. RIO 00 return, no skimmer Skimmer.

01/09/2009, 03:32 PM	#240
Bernie21 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Miami, Fl... Posts: 2,161	I know Michael, Im just toying, we all have our thing, thats why we we're all here, in this case our common thing seems to be corners, lol. __________________ Reefing is an addiction rehab doesn't work for... Current Tank Info: Downgraded to a 0 Gal non Mixed Reef - Direct sun watts & 1x moon Actinics. RIO 00 return, no skimmer Skimmer.

01/09/2009, 08:20 PM	#241
kelso1980 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Syracuse NY Posts: 583	I reaquascaped again. I dropped a tiny rock w 6 daisy polyps on it and tried to retrieve it. this turned into a swirling vortex and I never found my daisys. D: It was still looking too bulky to me. What do you think? Honesty is the best policy Before: After:

01/09/2009, 08:22 PM	#242
kelso1980 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Syracuse NY Posts: 583	the zoa rock in the front is not going to stay there. I'm going to try to trade it for some blue or green ricordias. I saw a rock full of different colored ricordias and now that's my goal: to someday cover part of the rock to the right with a bouquet of ricordia

01/09/2009, 08:22 PM	#243
kelso1980 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Syracuse NY Posts: 583	the zoa rock in the front is not going to stay there. I'm going to try to trade it for some blue or green ricordias. I saw a rock full of different colored ricordias and now that's my goal: to someday cover part of the rock to the right with a bouquet of ricordia

01/09/2009, 09:43 PM	#244
Hookup Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,281	Kelso, i would recommend remove 1/2 the rock from your DT and moving it to your sump. Well, that would be my wifes recommendation. I had 3x the amount of rock in my tank as I do now, she kept telling me to pull more out... In the end she was right. Now, that's because I wanted a very open concept structure... you have a nice reef-wall structure going on there... and the rescape looks better, IMO. One other suggestion would be to try to avoid the pyramid shape you have going. The two sides are leading the eye to the top center, so if there is any way you can create an off-set point, or keep it lower in the middle with two islands, it would look different.. Honestly, i suck at this stuff, aquascaping is one of the main benefits of having a wife... she can tell me what i;m doing wrong, and 9 or 10 times she is right. These are just thoughts on how I might consider modifying your setup... not improving, just changing to something else... It looks good as is, but I wanted to give you something as feed back, beside... "nice job!".. __________________ Spellking is an art form to which I have no brush. I'm not sure FOWLRs actually exist, I think they're like unicorns or platonic girlfriends. A FOWLR is just a reef tank that doesn't yet hold any coral. Current Tank Info: 180g display, 150gallon sump in-wall 4-side viewable sps dominated tank, ATI Powermodule, MRC MR-4 skimmer, GHL controller, Baling Method, Ultralith Reactor, Carbon & Phosphate Reactors, and general time consuming money pit that I live for.

01/09/2009, 09:59 PM	#245
kelso1980 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Syracuse NY Posts: 583	thanks hookup. I like your suggestion about taking more rock out...I just cant bring myself to do it! For instance...I'm saving that one whole rock because I cant get the ricordia off it. and I feel like it's too bulky so that's why every time I re aquascape more rocks come out. I have no more room in my sump. eventually more rock will come out...but i'm not ready to take that next step yet. Plus I found a bristle worm in there today so I think i'm going to torch the whole aquarium. maybe the house too. I'm pretty sure bristle worms came from my nightmares. I know it's silly and everyone has them but i cant STAND them! they give me the willies

01/10/2009, 01:28 AM	#246
Michael NTTH Rookie Help Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gloucester, England,UK Posts: 7,808 Blog Entries: 6	you could pull some out, and also move some forward a bit, just make the wall a little thicker, not sure how much you have in there, but i estimate theres about 115 pounds in my DT and it looks ok, a bit of re-scaping may be worth a shot, fwiw i think it looks quite nice, but hookups suggestion about moving a bit is a good idea, i have 10 pounds in my sump __________________ Don't be afraid to ask questions, we in the new to the hobby are here to help you [For My Tank Spec,Photo Album,Articles and website, click on my name] MY Very Kindest and Warmest Regards , MIKE Current Tank Info: I have a 92 gal Corner Tank, and way too many pieces of equipment to list really, (proud member of the reef central corner club)

01/10/2009, 06:07 AM	#247
gawf4fun Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Lake Oswego, OR Posts: 342	Hello Boys, just found this thread tonight and enjoyed reading to this point. Great stuff in here, much that you have to have experienced to really appreciate. I too suffer from big sump envy! I bought a used acrylic pentagon corner tank about three years ago because I loved the shape and look of the tank's depth of field for viewing. The dimensions are 48" from the corner tip to the front edges, 11" for the side panels and 54" across the front panel. The depth of the tank is 24" (a pain in the butt for corner cleaning). I haven't done the math to confirm it, but I was told it was a 180 gallon, so that my story and I'm sticking with it. I traded my old hot tub to my UPS man at work who does woodworking and used to build stands and canopies for a LFS. He did a super job. The stand has a flat back leaving even less room for equipment, though I've managed to cram a good amount of stuff underneath including 30 gallon sump, external protein skimmer, calcium reactor, auto-top off and phosban reactor. The only thing that didn't fit is my 1/4HP chiller which sits on the right side of the tank alongside the closed loop pump. (which after reading the last line, I realize didn't fit underneath either). I don't have a picture of underneath the stand but will take one and post so you can appreciate the same cramps that I have. LOL Anyway, here's a few pics of the canopy, stand, and tank early after setting it up and with my initial rockwork after about 5 months. I re-worked the aquascaping just over a year ago to create better flow and to give more room for adding corals. Here's pics of the new aquascaping from a year ago and then more recently after a year of filling in and coral growth. I'm pretty happy with the mixed reef look, just thinking now that I need to upgrade my flow by adding a Vortech. I'm really looking forward to seeing and hearing from more corner reef owners here on RC. If anyone has feedback on Vortech' pumps and their use and positioning in pentagon/corner tanks, I'd love to hear it. __________________ Beware the naked man who offers you his shirt... Reef Central Corner Club Current Tank Info: 38 gl Cadlights AIO lit by AI Sol Blue, 24 gl aquapod w/150 watt pendant at the office.

01/10/2009, 07:59 AM	#249
Michael NTTH Rookie Help Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gloucester, England,UK Posts: 7,808 Blog Entries: 6	hey gawf4fun welcome to the corner club, your tank looks fantastic, i love the look of the aquascape, it looks really well established, not into vortecs myself but hopefully one of the other guys who participates on this thread will chip in later when they catch up with the thread __________________ Don't be afraid to ask questions, we in the new to the hobby are here to help you [For My Tank Spec,Photo Album,Articles and website, click on my name] MY Very Kindest and Warmest Regards , MIKE Current Tank Info: I have a 92 gal Corner Tank, and way too many pieces of equipment to list really, (proud member of the reef central corner club)

01/10/2009, 08:29 AM	#250
kelso1980 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Syracuse NY Posts: 583	WELCOME gawf4fun! (ps we're not all boys) That's a great looking tanks with some wonderful colors in there. I cant wait till my tank grows up. And thank you all for your input on my rocks!