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Unread 01/20/2009, 12:45 PM   #426
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gaw, I think this is right but the deminsions of the tank are roughly 24" side panel , 44"across the front and 36" deep. The overflow panels are 10" each. I never clean the side panels or the overflow panels at all. Mainly the snails take care of it for me. I have nevr really had an issue with algea on them except when some of my snails dies. But even then there wasn't very much on there. How many snails do you have


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Unread 01/20/2009, 12:46 PM   #427
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Any advice would be nice and appreciated. I want to get a little flow over the middle of the tank where I added alot of my sps' and I was thinking of adding some nano Koralias becuase I just want a little bit of flow while keeping a sleeker design.


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Unread 01/20/2009, 12:50 PM   #428
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go for the 6025 s there a great powerhead, i think they are the best ive ever used myself and fully recommend them


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Unread 01/20/2009, 01:06 PM   #429
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Im kinda ok w it now, it sux but, it'll teach me to do things slower and better next time w the fish, thankfully like I said my corals are all ok. As long as my clowns make it I'll be fine (emotionally not financially). Im holding off on the gobies I was going to get. This crash will elt me do my stocking list correctly now. What I lost is as follows, 2 anthias, 1 emperor angel(juvi), 1 rock beauty angel (juvi), 1 lawnmower blenny & 1 moorish Idol. The rock beauty was eating at the store, but never ate in my tank, just picked at the rocks. She died. Then the next day I came in and the anthias, blenny, were dead. I saw the idol, potters & emperor had gotten ick. The Idol and emperor died that same day & the potter seems to be kicking it. Funny because both the idol & emperor ate like crazy, while the potters was like the rockbeauty, picks only at rocks. Of this list I did want to remove the rock beauty & the emperor angels. Because the emperor was simply going to be to big eventually for my tank & the rock beauty picked at my corals (not enough to damage them [yet!!!]). I know rock beauties arent reef safe I had one before that never picked on a thing, but then again she was well fed & ate everything I put in the tank, had to give her away because my upgrade took to long.

Now I plan on either sitting putw my clowns & potters or try to quarintine them for 6 weeks (to kill the ick in my display) and redo my stocking list as follows (in the order I would add them).
-Pair of clownfish
-Moorish Idol
-One Spot Foxface
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-Orange Spotted Rock Blenny
-Sleeper Head Goby
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-Pair of Lyretail Anthias
-Pair of Flame Wrasses or Lineatus Wrasses*
-Powder Blue Tang*

*Only if the bioload is still good enough to fit if not NOOOO.
Thanks for all your concern, its part of the hobby though, plus I knew very well what I was trying to do, unfortunetely it didnt work out in my favor. Sorry for the ramble...


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Unread 01/20/2009, 01:13 PM   #430
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dont give in pal, its part of the hobby, and you will learn from it, chin up and keep smiling, its a hobby, frustrating but you will get there


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Unread 01/20/2009, 01:18 PM   #431
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Like I said, Im ok, thanks for the support, but I risked it and lost this time, I know how it goes, the important thing is to learn to attempt to avoid this again. My clowns sure do like having the tank to themselves now, lol.


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Unread 01/20/2009, 01:23 PM   #432
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bernie what kind of corals are you wanting to keep? If wanting to keep any sps i'd stay away from the angels. I had to catch my coral beauty which was absolutely stunning, and now have to catch the flame angel (which is one of the original fish). Both of these were eating my new sps.


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Unread 01/20/2009, 01:27 PM   #433
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bernie what kind of corals are you wanting to keep? If wanting to keep any sps i'd stay away from the angels. I had to catch my coral beauty which was absolutely stunning, and now have to catch the flame angel (which is one of the original fish). Both of these were eating my new sps.
you are right about angels, very hit and miss, my lemon peel is no problem but im lucky, they are a gamble i agree


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Unread 01/20/2009, 01:37 PM   #434
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Yeah I know angels are hit or miss, I have owned alot of them at 1 point or another. My tank iss a SPS mostly w a few LPS and very little softies. Unfortunately I have a passion for Angels so it wont be stopping me. I do intend on being careful, but it is what it is. I also feed the tank alot, it helps in keeping fish from picking (helps not eliminates) that why I have a monster skimmer, for the bigger bioload & heavy feeding for a passion of fish that make reefkeeping a headache, lol. Why couldnt I just like gobies or something else??? LOL.


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Unread 01/20/2009, 01:44 PM   #435
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Unread 01/20/2009, 03:16 PM   #436
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oh michael thanks for the idea on the nano tunze. I think those are going to work great. Anyone have any ideas on how to get my other angel out? I got the other out in a trap and tried with leaving a net in there for a coupe days on this guy.


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Unread 01/20/2009, 03:26 PM   #437
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Try the inverted coke bottle trick. Cut the top part of the bottle, then cut the cap part to a hole big enough for the angel to fit. the invert the top part on the bottle into the bottom part. glue them together, then poke lil holes into the bottom so that it sinks, put food in there & when the fish swims in, pull the bottle out.


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Unread 01/20/2009, 03:39 PM   #438
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gaw, I think this is right but the deminsions of the tank are roughly 24" side panel , 44"across the front and 36" deep. The overflow panels are 10" each. I never clean the side panels or the overflow panels at all. Mainly the snails take care of it for me. I have nevr really had an issue with algea on them except when some of my snails dies. But even then there wasn't very much on there. How many snails do you have
Hey btb, sounds like a nice size tank you have. About 6-8 weeks ago I add 50 astrea, 50 cerith, and 50 nassarius snails to the tank. They are doing fine taking care of the bad algae and detritus. What I'm having trouble cleaning is the coraline algae in the far corners of the tank. It's all I can do to reach the corners with a 24" scrubber, and then there's no real leverage available to really get the elbow grease working. I've tried to scrape carefully with a blade and left some scratches in the corners so I'm looking for alternatives. I'll just keep trying different scrapers, pads, etc. till I find one that really works well. Or, I could hire a midget to get in there. LOL


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Unread 01/20/2009, 05:17 PM   #439
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oh ya yours is a pentagon, didn't see that in the picture. Ya mine is a bowfront. But in the bottom corners I made a scraper to clean it. Its 3/4 inch pvc pipe (i think) with a algae pad rubberbanded on the front of it. but ya getting enough leverage is the hardest part about cleaning the bottom. But that is how I do it. Then I have the heavy duty mag to clean the rest of it.


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Unread 01/20/2009, 05:18 PM   #440
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good idea bernie. So you glue the top part to the bottom to make is sink? a little confused but i think i'm going to try that. I'll probably catch everything else in the process...


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Unread 01/20/2009, 06:25 PM   #441
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Ill see if I can fing you the link, its hard to describe...
you have to fish the fish your looking for, dont pull out the trap until the one you want swims in.


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Unread 01/20/2009, 06:56 PM   #442
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ya.. i am trying to come up with a way to make it work...


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Unread 01/20/2009, 08:49 PM   #443
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Well if it makes anyone feel better.... Sunday I purchased a Yellow Clown Goby, among other fish. I found out it is very likely to pick at SPS, which when I came home today to find him picking... So I tore the entire tank apart... all of the LR was ripped out and put on the floor, corals and all, while I caught this little bugger. He is now in the fuge and my tank looks like an atom bomb went off in it... As far as I can see I have not lost anything, yet... but damn.... Not the same as your loss Bernie, and not trying to take anything away from your loss, just sharing my own issues...

There's a lot of muttered swearing at my house tonight... and I did snap a photo of the "after the wreck" tank... but I do not have the heart to post it.

Oh, and my new doughnut coral is receeding... three days after buying him... it keeps getting worse... i was watching him at the LFS for a week where he was FINE, i must have damaged him somehow. I haven't posted photos because i was hoping he would start to recover, but it's getting worse. Ideas?


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Unread 01/20/2009, 11:00 PM   #444
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that sucks hookup, but I think i've tried to figure out the coke bottle thing. I think i've done it right I have it in the tank letting the fish get used to it. Hopefully by the time i catch it, it won't be to late...


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Photos man, got to have photos. I cannot wrap my head arround that bottle idea.

I'm getting a Hawaiian Flame Angel shortly so I won't be putting my tank back together until after he proves he can be a model fish... It's at the LFS on hold for me, i have to pick him up. My fingers are crossed, many people are able to keep the dwarf angels and I'm hoping i'm going to be one of them.


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Unread 01/21/2009, 08:40 AM   #446
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Hookup sorry to hear about your mess, I didnt know those clown gobies were such a terror, you like the 3rd person I hear this from, it looks like you need to figure out the bottle thing out too. You should be ok w the dwarf angel, they are hit or miss, but more likely to hit than alot of other fish, you should be fine, but it is a good Idea to keep the tank not set up since it is already like that just incase.

BTB, please post pics of your creations so that if you did do it right others can learn because I cant find the thread & it is essential to know in this hobby, with the kinds of fish and corals we like to keep.


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Unread 01/21/2009, 11:04 AM   #447
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This is mine before the caulerpa plague....a few roots in the rocks survived cooking, and it's gross. I am currently employing a sea hare to try to cope. A 54g tank just can't support most things that will eat the stuff.



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Unread 01/21/2009, 11:16 AM   #448
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what is that on top of your tank?
Ya i was hoping to see if it worked before i put up pics... but its easy to explain what I did. I cut the two liter bottle about 6" down from the cap. Then I cut around the cap just large enough for the selec fish to swim into... I don't really want my tangs to go in there.. Then i turned it upside down into the bottom half adn glued it in place.. Cut little holes for water to get into but small enough where food won't get out... I'll try to get some pics up soon


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just curious, whats everybodys favorite fish in their tanks?


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This is mine before the caulerpa plague....a few roots in the rocks survived cooking, and it's gross. I am currently employing a sea hare to try to cope. A 54g tank just can't support most things that will eat the stuff.
sk8r welcome to the club, nice to see your tank, hope you help out here with some questions, first thing i say to corner tank owners is do you have a sump and if so lets see under your tank in your cabinet


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