thoughts on adding another fish

renogaw · 02/02/2009, 04:00 PM

I'm thinking about another fish for my tank, but am concerned it would be overstocking.

i've got a 90 gallon with at least 140lbs rock (tad full and can remove some...)

kole tang
coral beauty
yellowtail damsel
2 x ocellaris
yellow watchman
firefish
6line

would adding a foxface be too much? any other suggestion?

Markh65 · 02/02/2009, 04:27 PM

You could always give me the Kole tang to make room

renogaw · 02/02/2009, 06:46 PM

OH goodness never!!

i got my kole from a LFS. it was almost decimated from hlle and had almost no tail fin or dorsal fin.

now, it's a healthy, beautiful piggy!!!

epstein · 02/02/2009, 07:08 PM

double post

epstein · 02/02/2009, 07:10 PM

Plenty of room.....Just skimm heavy.......I have a purple tang ....foxface....fire fish.....3 chromis...and a 3 stripe damsel....2 false....red spotted blenny ....lawnmower.... in my 92 corner with 30 gal sump.....

renogaw · 02/02/2009, 07:12 PM

hmm, i'm still having issues getting my skimmer to produce a cup of skimmer a week... i don't know if it's just a low bioload or if it's my skimmer

mr pink floyd · 02/02/2009, 07:16 PM

im sure your LFS would love to help you pick a new fish

renogaw · 02/02/2009, 07:18 PM

heh, i'd take suggestions from a lfs, but never buy blindly... i know what can go with my fish and what cannot

InsaneClownFish · 02/02/2009, 11:35 PM

I think you can squeeze in one more small fish. I'd err on the side of "smallish" though. What were you thinking of?

renogaw · 02/03/2009, 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by InsaneClownFish
I think you can squeeze in one more small fish. I'd err on the side of "smallish" though. What were you thinking of?

small fish may be a royal gramma or pseudochromis, or maybe a hawk. only issue with the last two are their compatibility with hermits and shrimp, problem with the first is i've killed two already and sorta gave up on em...

reefman13 · 02/03/2009, 09:27 AM

With a community tank that already has that many fish I wouldn't try either of those, mainly because, I am sure you know, that they have both been known to have more aggresive interactions with the other animals in the tank. Aggresion and fighting can become a pathway for stress which can lead to ich, and other illnesses.

renogaw · 02/03/2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by reefman13
Aggresion and fighting can become a pathway for stress which can lead to ich.

not if there is no ich in my tank to begin with...

and i've never heard hawkfish to be anything other than peaceful to community tanks, same with royal grammas. not sure on pseudochromis.

renogaw · 02/03/2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by Markh65
You could always give me the Kole tang to make room

btw, emmons has a very fat kole in stock, it's missing half of one of it's fins due to being in a tank with two triggers, but it's very nice looking

adunne · 02/03/2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by renogaw
not if there is no ich in my tank to begin with...

depends on who you ask... I have read some say that its always in the tank but is kept at bay by healthy fish and like everything else there are those that debate that its not.... The correct answer is.... I have no clue

arteaction · 02/04/2009, 09:33 PM

There are royal gammas and pseudos that look the same. I have one that is half hot pink and half yellow. There are royal gammas the same but have a black dot on the dorsal. I thought mine was a dotty back but it wasnt and it is aggressive. Id stay away from either of them if you are ocncerned about shrimp or crabs. Mine is terrorizing a peppermint now that is hiding and probably wont make it not being able to eat. The other peppermint MIA either the psueodo or the talbot...Two camel backs went MIA and the last one was hiding also terrorized. Go with something else and save your inverts.Myexperience anyway for what its worth.

renogaw · 02/05/2009, 09:26 AM

yea, pseudos are supposed to be bad versus inverts right? there's also a cousin to royal grammas that are all blue iirc, but dotty backs are supposed to be bad too...

i dunno...

i'd love to get a hawkfish i think... gonna have to think on it.

erbgo · 02/05/2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by renogaw
yea, pseudos are supposed to be bad versus inverts right? there's also a cousin to royal grammas that are all blue iirc, but dotty backs are supposed to be bad too...

i dunno...

i'd love to get a hawkfish i think... gonna have to think on it.

I have a coral Hawkfish in my reef cool fish

renogaw · 02/06/2009, 08:36 AM

is it ok with hermits/crabs/shrimp?

02/02/2009, 04:00 PM	#1
renogaw Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Granby (beyond the boonies and sticks..) Posts: 2,608	thoughts on adding another fish I'm thinking about another fish for my tank, but am concerned it would be overstocking. i've got a 90 gallon with at least 140lbs rock (tad full and can remove some...) kole tang coral beauty yellowtail damsel 2 x ocellaris yellow watchman firefish 6line would adding a foxface be too much? any other suggestion?

02/02/2009, 07:08 PM	#4
epstein Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NYC transplant now in CT Posts: 1,501	double post __________________ I'd Rather be a failure at something I love , Than a sucess at something I hate . George Burns Current Tank Info: 150 DD Cube / 100 Gal Sump(basement) 30gal cube frag tank plumb Panworld 250ps return/ Reef Octopus SRO3000 Skimmer/ Bubble Magus Doser/Lumenmax reflector with 400 watt Radium bulb Ice Cap Ballast Apex Controller 2 MP40wes 2 gyre 150

02/02/2009, 07:10 PM	#5
epstein Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NYC transplant now in CT Posts: 1,501	Plenty of room.....Just skimm heavy.......I have a purple tang ....foxface....fire fish.....3 chromis...and a 3 stripe damsel....2 false....red spotted blenny ....lawnmower.... in my 92 corner with 30 gal sump..... __________________ I'd Rather be a failure at something I love , Than a sucess at something I hate . George Burns Current Tank Info: 150 DD Cube / 100 Gal Sump(basement) 30gal cube frag tank plumb Panworld 250ps return/ Reef Octopus SRO3000 Skimmer/ Bubble Magus Doser/Lumenmax reflector with 400 watt Radium bulb Ice Cap Ballast Apex Controller 2 MP40wes 2 gyre 150

02/02/2009, 11:35 PM	#9
InsaneClownFish Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,069	I think you can squeeze in one more small fish. I'd err on the side of "smallish" though. What were you thinking of? __________________ 7 Years Reefing and Many Fresh 8 Foot Envisions

02/03/2009, 09:27 AM	#11
reefman13 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: CT Posts: 4,323	With a community tank that already has that many fish I wouldn't try either of those, mainly because, I am sure you know, that they have both been known to have more aggresive interactions with the other animals in the tank. Aggresion and fighting can become a pathway for stress which can lead to ich, and other illnesses. __________________ Regards, Dave ______________________________________________________________________ "One day I will be back in this hobby..." spoken like a true High School student... Current Tank Info: None for now...for now...

02/02/2009, 04:27 PM	#2
Markh65 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Granby Posts: 371	You could always give me the Kole tang to make room

02/02/2009, 06:46 PM	#3
renogaw Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Granby (beyond the boonies and sticks..) Posts: 2,608	OH goodness never!! i got my kole from a LFS. it was almost decimated from hlle and had almost no tail fin or dorsal fin. now, it's a healthy, beautiful piggy!!!

02/02/2009, 07:12 PM	#6
renogaw Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Granby (beyond the boonies and sticks..) Posts: 2,608	hmm, i'm still having issues getting my skimmer to produce a cup of skimmer a week... i don't know if it's just a low bioload or if it's my skimmer

02/02/2009, 07:16 PM	#7
mr pink floyd Moved On Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: west hartford, CT Posts: 3,480	im sure your LFS would love to help you pick a new fish

02/02/2009, 07:18 PM	#8
renogaw Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Granby (beyond the boonies and sticks..) Posts: 2,608	heh, i'd take suggestions from a lfs, but never buy blindly... i know what can go with my fish and what cannot

02/04/2009, 09:33 PM	#15
arteaction Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spfld Ma/WHartford Ct Posts: 350	There are royal gammas and pseudos that look the same. I have one that is half hot pink and half yellow. There are royal gammas the same but have a black dot on the dorsal. I thought mine was a dotty back but it wasnt and it is aggressive. Id stay away from either of them if you are ocncerned about shrimp or crabs. Mine is terrorizing a peppermint now that is hiding and probably wont make it not being able to eat. The other peppermint MIA either the psueodo or the talbot...Two camel backs went MIA and the last one was hiding also terrorized. Go with something else and save your inverts.Myexperience anyway for what its worth. __________________ ^^^Toni^^^ I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world. — Albert Einstein Current Tank Info: 29 gal Bio with fuge/29g w 10g sump&T5/20g long frag tank HOB sump/26 Bow HOB sump/T5 future seahorse tank/90 in the works...Can't get a fill of watching my Blue Spot Jawfish "Muppet" Jim Henson creation come to life... RIP :(

02/05/2009, 09:26 AM	#16
renogaw Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Granby (beyond the boonies and sticks..) Posts: 2,608	yea, pseudos are supposed to be bad versus inverts right? there's also a cousin to royal grammas that are all blue iirc, but dotty backs are supposed to be bad too... i dunno... i'd love to get a hawkfish i think... gonna have to think on it.

02/06/2009, 08:36 AM	#18
renogaw Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Granby (beyond the boonies and sticks..) Posts: 2,608	is it ok with hermits/crabs/shrimp?